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Why do you beleive the Quran to be the Word of GOD?

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    Ahmad_Bilal
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    what you are saying is that Khalifa did not translated it correctly and still he is a messenger and guided? In other words you are more guided than Khalifa rotfl

    I really cant understand your what you stand for? verse is not the correct translation but it is almost the same kind of mistake which khalifa did so to me it is almost the same.

    I'm laughing too, brother... laugh Rashad translated the word "aya" in nearly all instances as "sign", "miracle", or "proof", all of which give the same descriptive meaning. Like I said, translating "aya" as "miracle" is a lot better than translating it as "verse"; the translation of it as "verse" (plural- ayaat, or verses) is completely wrong and misleading. The word "aya" means sign, and "ayaat" means signs. Besides, Rashad Khalifa never claimed that his Qur'anic translation was infallible or divinely inspired. His translation, although I feel it is better than most of the other translations in circulation, does contain errors and misinterpretations.

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      yeshuahamashiach
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      it is BS

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        Samia
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        it is BS

        What?

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          Rami
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          Peace,

          I believe in the Quran because there was no reason for a human to write something like this. It just created too much trouble for Mohammed.

          202 We did not send down to you the Quran so you may suffer.

          Peace,

          Rami

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            Rami
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            it is BS

            We will see about that.

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              No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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              it is BS

              If you are talking about the Quran, then THIS IS DEFINTELY NOT THE RIGHT FORUM FOR YOU.
              Read a bit about the Quran and it's miracles.

              I'll give you an intro

              The word "day" is mentioned 365 times
              The words "days" is mentiond 30 times
              The word "month" is mentioned 12 times

              The word "land" is mentioned 15 times
              The word "sea" is mentioned 32 times
              Let's do some math
              32+15 = 45
              32/45 = 71.111...
              15/45 = 28.888.. (28.89 when rounded)

              THAT'S THE EXACT RATIO OF LAND TO SEA OF THE EARTH - IN THE QURAN!

              I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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                Rami
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                If you are talkinhg about the Quran, then THIS IS DEFINTELY NOT THE RIGHT FORUM FOR YOU.
                Read a bit about the Quran and it's miracles.

                I'll give you an intro

                The word "day" is mentioned 365 times
                The words "days" is mentiond 30 times
                The word "month" is mentioned 12 times

                The word "land" is mentioned 15 times
                The word "sea" is mentioned 32 times
                Let's do some math
                32+15 = 45
                32/45 = 71.111...
                15/45 = 28.888.. (28.89 when rounded)

                THAT'S THE EXACT RATIO OF LAND TO SEA OF THE EARTH - IN THE QURAN!

                Don't sweat it, only people who fear God believe in the Quran.

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                  Alen
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                  Peace,
                  Respectfully.

                  Because God has answered my prayers in a very short period of time.
                  Because it proves to be right when i look at the world around me.
                  Because i'm constantly getting info and knowledge from it.

                  Glory be to our God.
                  Peace.

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                    Rami
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                    Peace,
                    Respectfully.

                    Because God has answered my prayers in a very short period of time.
                    Because it proves to be right when i look at the world around me.
                    Because i'm constantly getting info and knowledge from it.

                    Glory be to our God.
                    Peace.

                    I know some guy who converted to Islam only because it forbids usury. We return to our Creator for lots of reasons which proves He is the Creator.

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                      yfn123
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                      You are clearly showing your ignorance in basic mathematics, regardless of your level of education. 1+1=2, always and forever.

                      Nah.... I would say 1+1=10 rotfl

                      Anwar Azim

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                        Rev_John
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                        Nah.... I would say 1+1=10 rotfl

                        Anwar Azim

                        It all depends on what you are counting. If it is 1 ant + 1 anteater then 1+1=1. or, if the ant is poisoned, then 1+1=0

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                          yfn123
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                          I was counting in binary system.... 10 is actually 2.

                          Anwar Azim

                          It all depends on what you are counting. If it is 1 ant + 1 anteater then 1+1=1. or, if the ant is poisoned, then 1+1=0

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                            Rev_John
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                            I was counting in binary system.... 10 is actually 2.

                            Anwar Azim

                            Yes it is, that took me back a few years! rotfl

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                              unknownuser
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                              if it wasn't the word of ALLAH why is there a great "religious" following? people are dedicating their lives to islam living and dying as only followers.....seriously?

                              do you really have to ask this question?
                              i understand if you didn't picture the whole
                              may ALLAH guide the believers.

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                                Student_of_Allah
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                                Shalom Aleikhem,

                                if it wasn't the word of ALLAH why is there a great "religious" following? people are dedicating their lives to islam living and dying as only followers.....seriously?

                                do you really have to ask this question?
                                i understand if you didn't picture the whole
                                may ALLAH guide the believers.

                                Logical fallacy in your reasoning Argumentum ad populum.

                                From wiki "In argumentation theory, an argumentum ad populum (Latin for "appeal to the people&quot is a fallacious argument that concludes a proposition to be true because many or most people believe it. In other words, the basic idea of the argument is "If many believe so, it is so.""

                                As Bill Maher would put it This is the logical equivalent of saying "Eat shit!! 20 trillion flies can not be wrong""

                                And about people being dedicated and even dying Isn't that the same for virtually all religions? Forget religion, let me give you one example for now. Do you know about heaven's gate cult? These people believed in aliens and actually carried out a mass suicide for that. There are many such cults. So what? Now their beliefs are true as well?

                                PEACE
                                ------------- Student of Allah

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                                  Yamibato
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                                  Besides all those,
                                  it is a very practical book... rarely you may find a religious book like Qur'an to be practical in this age.

                                  So that definitely makes me love that book even more ❤

                                  Peace.
                                  Yami.

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                                    JavaLatte
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                                    So that definitely makes me love that book even more ❤

                                    Very nice statement!

                                    Peace.

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                                      Man_of_Faith
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                                      Peace,

                                      It contains virtually no nonsense and after becoming more wise I have seen that I am more blessed. It is one of the most misinterpreted books in the world, but the more honest one is to the truth the more clear it becomes. It was written down by a human, but he was channeling inspiration from God and one can sense that while reading it.

                                      God bless you

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                                        Existential1
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                                        As Bill Maher would put it This is the logical equivalent of saying "Eat shit!! 20 trillion flies can not be wrong""

                                        Mad props on the Bill Maher quote. Watch that show every week.

                                        peace

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                                          muslims
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                                          Allah has already presented His argument. It is now the time for a counterargument.

                                          Therefore the question

                                          IS NOT

                                          Why do you believe the Quran to be the Word of GOD?

                                          BUT

                                          Why do you believe the Quran is NOT the Word of GOD?

                                          Can people counter Allah's arguments?

                                          This is the issue, and it is absurd for people to repeatedly ask for the main argument through blank denials; and without presenting any counterargument.

                                          . . .

                                          and . . . how to counter Allah's argument?

                                          Say, "If mankind and the jinn gathered in order to produce the like of this Qur'an,
                                          they could not produce the like of it,
                                          even if they were to each other assistants."
                                          17.88

                                          Or do they say, "He invented it"?
                                          Say, "Then bring ten surahs like it that have been invented
                                          and call upon whomever you can besides Allah , if you should be truthful."
                                          11.13

                                          Do they find any Book like the Quran ?

                                          If there is none, or none has ever existed since the beginning of mankind . .

                                          They have to obey Allah.

                                          Conclusion

                                          And

                                          you are in doubt about what We have sent down upon Our Servant

                                          produce a surah the like thereof
                                          and call upon your witnesses other than Allah ,
                                          if you should be truthful.

                                          But if you do not
                                          and you will never be able to
                                          then fear the Fire, whose fuel is men and stones, prepared for the disbelievers.

                                          2.23-24

                                          Therefore. . .

                                          Issue

                                          Why do you believe the Quran is NOT the Word of GOD?

                                          Counterargument (how to counter Allah's argument)

                                          Produce one like the Quran, without any inconsistency and amendment
                                          and corroborating with history, science, nature, universe, future etc. . .

                                          ELSE. . . obey Allah!

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