Arnold,
Samia answered your orginal question on the first page, and proved it to you with sufficient evidence that the word could mean spherical, yet you completely ignored her answer, that says alot about your intentions. Peace
Meaning I was the last one to respond to the point of the thread.
You are childish. You did not come here with an open mind, just trying to discredit the Quran by illogical dumb arguments.
Just a off-topic (but on-core-problem) side remark I felt I had to make after reading this thread
The problem is not proving/showing things to people.
The problem lies in whether they want to be shown or not.
The problem is whether they are willing to change their mind or not.
The problem lies in their motives.
Do they wanna learn or are they just out to win, and prove someone else (and that person's faith and book) wrong.
Sometimes it hard to tell which one of the following things is the real case in a debater brickwall
Plain old stubborn and cramped rigidness. Doubtful motives.
"child syndrome" Inexperience, naiveness, over-confidence in one's knowledge.
Low IQ
???
Was Arnold suspended?
Why does this Iris always pop up close to the departure of some immature-seeming, odd, debater with destructive agendas, like Arnold and Starjade? Are they all members of the same sect or what?
Who is this Iris? The xian fairy god mother of all those who come here to proclaim their anti-quran truths???