Salam

Majority think of Quran as an ordinary book that just read it and try to understand it but that?s not true. Not only for understanding the Quran language is irrelevant but also no matter how much one knows Arabic grammar and fluent in speaking or being native language Almighty God has set the condition to understand it and that?s sincerity and purity of the mind from all kind of idolatry that includes our ego too.

5675-I swear by the positions of the stars.

5676-This is an oath, if you only knew, that is awesome.

5677-This is an honorable Quran.

5678-In a protected book.

5679-None can grasp it except the sincere.

Peace

Peace Ayman

The more complex form ARB'A is derived from the simple root RB' and not the other way around as you just said.

One more time you misunderstood it?.The word of Arba?a is four and its root is the same as Rabi?.The statement was saying that.

Actually, the dictionary explains exactly how we ended up with first spring and second spring. Here is a copy and paste from the dictionary

I didn?t want to know or meant to ask you why there is two springs!....I gave you hint that you just mentioned the spring without further explanation?.BTW it?s written that Arab say Sharul-Rabi ?the word of Shar/month is necessarily added in order to discriminate between the months thus called and the season called Rabi??. So Ayman why would you only like to stick to what you?d like to hear?????!!!!!!If Arabs want to call their season Rabi and call a month Rabi too what?s your problem trying to confuse the people over it? Who cares how many seasons they had/have etc?.the important thing that concerns us is they call/name 2 months Rabi in their calendar too??.END OF STORY !

OK. We are in full agreement that the present month so-called Zulhijjah was named by people. You also said that I "never put my trust in the god", then why do you demand of me to put my trust in the people???

Please do not twist the logic and essence of my message?.Nothing happens without God?s Will?.God Willed the Lunar calendar take form in order people use it for the time of Hajj and 4 sacred months?Maybe name of the Lunar calendar were chosen by some godly man chosen by God ,who knows?Whatever happened surely the month of Zulhijjah took after certain rite as Hajj and means possessor of the Hajj ?. God teaches us there are 4 consecutive sacred months...For a sincere believer that?s enough without further debating.

So how come you don't use any of the phases of the moon for the timing of the "hajj"? Your so-called Hajj arbitrarily starts on the 8th of Zulhijjah and not with any phase of the moon and arbitrarily ends on 13th of Zulhijjah and not with any of the phases of the moon.

As much as it concerns me from the teaching of the Quran month of Zulhijjah is beginning of the season of the hajj and it last for 4 months?.No matter when one would like to go there during these months?They should observe what they?re asked to.

If your "hajj" like that of Khalifa and Edip consists of the idoltarous practices of spinning around some pagan stone cube and pagan Black Stone then you are buying a one way ticket to hell and not paradise.

Please don?t be so clever saying something that you think is very intelligent utterance?.The whole universe is spinning around some entity that you and me can't fathom His greatness.....Everybody knows the significant of the circumvolution around the Kaaba??.I?ve been there and I know the feeling?.The sincere believer immerse in his/her own thought glorifying The Lord of universe without paying attention or noticing of the environment ?.Your concept/utterence is like Satan when was asked to prostrate to Adam saw himself above him?.Adam was a clay to him?.Kaaba is a clay to you too not that it's the command of God in doing what you are asked to.
BTW if Khalifa, I and Edip are buying a one way ticket to hell, there is still hope for us but you should know that you have reached there!

Actually, they know nothing. If you don't believe me go ask any so-called Muslim about the four "sacred months" and what do they do in them and how does their behavior change in them or what is special about them. They never pay attention to those supposed four months and they come and go every year without anyone noticing.

I agree but what is got to do with having the calendar ?!!

Peace
Asana

Peace Ayman

No. The root is not ARB'A (4). The root is RB'A, which doesn't mean the number 4.

Thanks for the reply?Of course the root word is ?ra ba ayn? and the statement is saying that its root is from the word of Arba?a which means 4 and it is correct BUT one letter made it sounds incorrect !!It depends on how one would like to read the statement and wants to hear what it meant!!

This is the problem with you Ayman ,you read and hear what you?d like to hear not what the truth is?Lexicon dictionary has extensive explanation of the root word and its derivative especially about Rabi ?You only stick to the spring meaning and left no explanation how on earth Arab would have/call two months as spring season !

You distorted the Sacred months and the Ramadan just because never put your Trust in God to be so Kind and Merciful leaving us some kind of mark and guidance for those who wish to be guided...

You don?t believe in a Merciful God Who is asking us to fast and perform the Hajj helping the people have some kind of calendar to follow it?.

And a Merciful God to mark the beginning of the Hajj by letting the people name the first month of it as Zulhijjah/posseser of Hajj and then revealing it the Sacred months are consecutive months?.

And a Merciful God Who is revealing that the phases of the moon is for timing the Hajj, teaching us using the lunar calendar and proving that the people knew about the
Hajj and the calendar but testing His Messenger by beating around the bush ?.

And a Merciful God Who is telling us in 5640 ?? Many from the later generations? will go to Paradise reminding us their Quiblah , Hajj and fasting were accepted .

And a Merciful God Who doesn't make the religion complicated or difficult to follow it..

Do the Muslims? worlds know any Focal point other than the Kaaba? Do they know any sacred months other than at least Zulhijjah and Safar and Moharram? Do they know any month other than Ramadan for fasting according the calendar?

If there hasn?t been one believer for the last 1400 years on the right path then we all should put our hope and trust in people like you guiding us to the right direction not God, you who don?t even show your face to the public dear Ayman!!!

Ayman my Trust in God is so strong that I believe even if it is for the sake of one believer to be saved on this earth He would keep the sacred months, Ramadan and Quiblah as they are?.It all depends on how we know God and how much we trust Him...

Peace
Asana

@ Ayman

Please tell me is this statment correct or not ,"Rabi is derived from the root word Araba which means 4."

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Asana

MASOOMboy

Zulhijjah means possessor of Hajj?.The 4 months of Hajj are the Sacred months .They start with Zulhijjah and finish by Rabi I.

I hope that help.

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Asana

@ MASOOMboy

I sent those links to find out what calendars and Islamic calender are all about ?Then to know why they haven?t been mentioned by name in the Quran........Anyhow the 4 Sacred months according to the Submitters areZulhijjah, Muharram, Safar, Rabi I .

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Asana

Peace MASOOMboy

I hope you find some information in below links

http//www.masjidtucson.org/publications/books/sp/1997/oct/page1.html

http//www.masjidtucson.org/publications/books/sp/1997/nov/page1.html

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Asana

Mazhar

Yes but the verse is pointing at the audience that were there and listening to his message...When he was delivering the message he was acting as a messenger.

You try to find an excuse to exalt him by finding some kind verse for promoting your belief?God knows your intention?...How much intelligent need to know he?s dead and doesn?t have voice!!!!!!!Well unless he?s god beside God and can hear you too?Then when you talk to him you keep your voice down!!.
Wowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!!!!!!!!!!!

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Asana

Peace

So it?s all about Prophet, am I right?!!!!....Where is messenger Mohammed?!!

Asana

Peace Kevin

I agree with you for all the points you?ve made in your posts?.having children without being first married is not what God teaches us?.Some people are looking for a straightforward verse to say what?s permitted what?s not while they ignore the light of the Quran which can be seen only through studying the verses and system of God which is unchangeable.

Here in below verse we can clearly read what God teaches us, first marriage then children.

And GOD made for you spouses from among yourselves, and produced for you from your spouses children and grandchildren, and provided you with good provisions. Should they believe in falsehood, and turn unappreciative of GOD's blessings?

Since one should get married and then have children the act of AI is a sin and sin is Haram.

Say, "My Lord prohibits only evil deeds, be they obvious or hidden, and sins, and unjustifiable aggression, and to set up beside GOD powerless idols, and to say about GOD what you do not know."

Question is that now who really wish to go to hell just because wants to have a child like that when on the Judgment Day is ready to give her/his own child/children as ransom?

When they see them, the guilty will wish he could give his own children as ransom, to spare him the retribution of that day.

May God guide us to His True Light

Asana

Mazhar

What happened to your answer to my post 58?...Does that mean you know how wrong you are!!

Asana

Peace
Mazhar

Here we go again!!...As usual soon you?ve given a verse you can?t refute it resorted to answering the question with irrational questions.

Al-Rahman is not just a name/ ism?There is a big concept behind it?If one can?t grasp the concept/meaning of it then hasn?t known who God is and why calling him Al-Rahman.

You think since you know Arabic grammar you?re intelligent enough to understand the Quran too....You?re so warped up into the grammar that forgotten what the message is and constantly criticise with your grammatical knowledge.

Asana

Peace
NDP

This is not about meaning of names rather how to properly say in Arabic "His name is John"?

You translated ?whose attribute will be? makes no sense in any language.

685 and Zakariyy and Yay and Isa and Elias each from the righteous
197 O Zakariyy indeed We give you good news in a boy his name Yay
1912 O Yay hold the book
2190 so We responded to him and We gave to him Yay

Therefore, in any language including Arabic his name Yay and Yay is his name.

Sorry you?re deeply wrong?.Edip is right?.It just need to grasp the meaning of the 1965 ?.When you call God Al-Rahman does that mean you using a meaningless word or you have to understand it first what it means in order be able to call Him by that name/word ? Al-Rahman is an attribution.

1965-- The Lord of the heavens and the earth, and everything between them; you shall worship Him and steadfastly persevere in worshiping Him. Do you know of anyone who equals Him?

Asana

Peace Blackstone

Thank you for your informative reply.

With all due respect these is my only humble suggestion to you if you have killed your ego and pride and reached to that level of humility then try to put your forehead down on the ground Praising/Glorify Him. See if you can do it and see what you will feel?Soon your feelings will tell you if you really have killed your ego.

Asana

Peace
Mazhar

Let?s assume that God is sending blessing on Prophet 3356...Let?s say God is saying ?bless on you oh prophet? although this is a slogan and God is above that. To Him is ?Be and it is '.........Okay ,now how you Mazhar obey God by sending blessing on/to prophet?! Oh yes you say ?Our Lord send your blessing upon him/prophet?!...Helloooooo God is asking you do it not that asking Him in doing it for you!!!?Do you see how it?s absurd in asking God in doing it for you since He's asking you doing it, instead you yourself sending blessing from your own power which you don?t have any you ask God in doing so!!!

This is like the case in verse 523-24

Two men who were reverent and blessed by GOD said, "Just enter the gate. If you just enter it, you will surely prevail. You must trust in GOD, if you are believers."

They said, "O Moses, we will never enter it, so long as they are in it. Therefore, go - you and your Lord - and fight. We are sitting right here."

Asana

Peace Blackstone

Do you prostrate at all? I mean putting your head down on the ground by praising/Glorifying God.

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Asana

Peace

O children of Adam, do not let the devil /Shaytan dupe you as he did when he caused the eviction of your parents from Paradise, and the removal of their garments to expose their bodies. He and his tribe see you, while you do not see them. We appoint the devils/Shayatin as companions of those who do not believe.

Asana

peace

Say, "My Lord, I seek refuge in You from the whispers of the devils.

"And I seek refuge in You, my Lord, lest they come near me."

Asana

Salam Emil

how on earth did you get 415-16 to be about homosexuality?

Please tell me what your interpretation/understanding of them is.

-Not really? Asana when you write like that do yo mean that we can judge others? Of course we can make our decisions, stands and approaches, but how does that legitimize judging others?

We can judge others according to the Quran.For example God says ?you shall not befriend my enemies and your enemies??How are we going to decide who are His enemies? Well the only way is that to see who fights against Him and His messenger. For that one have to judge the person by his/her action?.Decision comes after judging.
In that example although one judge the person but no punishment gets issued for it unless fighting is physical otherwise refraining to from be friend is enough.

O you who believe, you shall not befriend My enemies and your enemies, extending love and friendship to them, even though they have disbelieved in the truth that has come to you. They persecute the messenger, and you, just because you believe in GOD, your Lord. If you mobilize to struggle in My cause, seeking My blessings, how can you secretly love them? I am fully aware of everything you conceal, and everything you declare. Those among you who do this have indeed strayed off the right path.

-For argument's sake; You wear a hijab. I think wearing a hijab is idol-worshipping prophet Muhammed. Does that give me the freedom to judge you? Does that give me the right to judge you as someone who doesnt follow Allah?

By just wearing hijjab one can?t simply judge the person as idol-worshiper .We should make sure what ideology the person is following?If belief is that it?s a command from Prophet then yes one can pass the judge she is committing idolatry?At the same time as judging her it doesn?t give me permission to force her not to wear or mistreat her or not to befriend with her?We must stick to the ?no compulsion in religion?. Whether she dies as an idol worshiper or not is irrelevant to the present judgment.

-I am very careful about judging in the name of Allah. If someone would ask me if I like homosexuality I would say no because to me it doesnt feel right, I could never understand how someone could be attracted to the same sex. However I would never say no because it is displeasing to Allah. How can I ever think that I understand Allah so good that I know what is displeasing to Him?

There is nothing as what you/I like or dislike?It?s all about what God likes or dislikes when it comes to such an issue?In the Quran we read what pleases God or displeases Him?.When people of Lot got condemned by God as I said before one of the things they were committing was homosexuality?God sent them retribution?.If it pleases Him then surely He wouldn?t have condemned them or even mention their action.

-Judging certain actions are however allowed if the punishment is set down in the Quran. There is no punishment for homosexuality in the Quran, therefore we cannot judge. Eventhough we might think it is wrong we still cannot judge.

You associate judging with punishment while in many cases it?s personal judging for making decision.

-You want to condemn and disassociate yourself from those who are (in your opinion) displeasing Allah.

My opinions must be based on commands of God not on my personals?.Condemning or disassociating etc must be based on what God is teaching me. If I don?t stand by His command then I?m disobeying Him.

You rather close the door on an atheist/homosexual/disbeliever rather than greeting him with a smile and welcome. Don't you see that if this person would ever have a chance to actually find Allah and the right path, you as a believer must show him love and respect.

Have I ever written that I close the door on them?!...Of course I should treat them nicely as long as they?re not fighting with me over my belief/religion/way of life?Of course I must invite them to the path of God in best possible manner?At the end it?s their neck not mine and no compulsion in religion.
BTW I had a lesbian neighbor who left the area...She counted me as one of her good friend because I always respected her although she knew I condemn her belief!

Asana

Salam Emil

If you want to judge you must be able to set down a punishment. So what is the punishment for homosexuality?

Not really. We can judge according to the Quran to make our decisions, stands and approaches.

If I can?t judge then how can I stand on God?s side and defend His Truth by condemning the people for their wrong belief or actions? Condemning or disassociating ourselves with those whom God is displeased needs judging through the Quran and making decision accordingly. Bearing in mind the Ultimate Judge is God.

As punishment for homosexuality verses 415-16 can be considered although you might be disagree with its interpretation then that?s another story!!

Peace
Asana