A muslim can not marry an unbeliver, which is addressed in this verse
Do not marry idolatresses unless they believe; a believing woman is better than an idolatress, even if you like her. Nor shall you give your daughters in marriage to idolatrous men, unless they believe. A believing man is better than an idolater, even if you like him. These invite to Hell, while GOD invites to Paradise and forgiveness, as He wills.
Salaam
If you would of check your facts, you would of know that Edik Yuksel has said that he believed in Rashad Khalifa as a messenger of God. But he also said that a messenger is a humanbeing as all of us and can be at fault. And therefore he did not believe every word Rashad did utter, he believed in the message he preached which is to follow the Quran alone, but he disagreed with some of his interpretations.
Salaam
Trevligt att tr?ffas, du r?kar inte heller k?nna andra ?kta muslimer som finns till i Sverige, skulle vara trevligt att hitta en grupp med svenska Muslimer att diskutera Islam med.
When it comes to the Salat, as you mentioned, some of them say that it means a commitment/submission to God, and others say that to do Salat is simply to word righteous deeds.
Those who advocate such claims may sound convincing to innocent readers who may not be familiar with the Quran, but it can easily be shown that all such claims are in total violation of clear Quranic words.
FIRST
Let us read the following Quranic verse, it will give us proof that Salat is a physical ritual and not just a commitment (to God).
"And if you are among them and you lead the Salat for them, let a group of them stand with you and let them hold on to their weapons. Then once they have prostrated let them be positioned behind you and let another group, who have not yet observed the Salat, observe the Salat with you while remaining cautious and while holding on to their weapons. Those who have disbelieved would dearly like you to be heedless of your weapons and goods in order to come down on you with one blow.You commit no error, if you are impeded by rain or you are ill, in putting down your weapons, so long as you remain cautious. God has prepared for the disbelievers a humiliating punishment." 4102
The above Quranic words confirm a number of matters
1- The word Salat in 4102 cannot simply mean a commitment or working righteous deeds since the words in this verse speak of the Prophet (or leader) leading the Salat. How can the Prophet, or anyone leading the Salat, be leading a commitment to God? Or do we need someone to lead us in order to work righteous deeds?
2- The command in 4102 is for various groups of believers to stand with their arms while observing the Salat. Do we need to be armed to be committed to God to do work righteous deeds? Obviously not, but because the believers are observing a physical ritual which makes them vulnerable to attack from the enemy they would indeed need to hold on to their weapons.
3- The words in 4102 also say that while each group is observing the Salat with the Prophet (or leader of the Salat) that another group should stand behind them in order to provide protection. So if we substitute the word Salat here with commitment to God, or righteous deeds, then not only would the believers need to hold their arms while being committed to God, or working righteous deeds, but they would also need another group to guard them while they are doing so!
4- But that is not all, the words "Then once they have prostrated let them be positioned behind you and let another group, who have not yet observed the Salat, observe the Salat with you" would raise further questions. If we use the interpretation of Salat to mean commitment or righteous deeds, this would mean that the second group, who have not yet observed their Salat, have infact not committed to God yet and are waiting their turn to do so! Or they have not done righteous deeds and waiting their turn!
5- Does the act of being committed to God, or working righteous deeds need to be done in groups? Or does it need a leader? Obviously not, this again confirms that the Salat is a physical ritual which can be observed in congregation and under a leader who leads the Salat.
6- The words in 4102 go on to say that the disbelievers would dearly love to ambush the believers when they are not standing armed during their Salat. Once again this would make absolutely no sense whatsoever to say that disbelievers would love to ambush the believers while they are trying to be commited to God. Or do the disbelievers wait to catch believers in an act of doing a righteous deed to ambush them?
The above Quranic words make it very clear that the Salat is a very specific physical ritual and not merely a state of commitment to God nor working righteous deeds. But because it is a physical ritual, which involves bending and prostrating, it makes the believers vulnerable to attack from the enemy at times of war, thus they need to hold on to their weapons and also need a second group to guard them while they are praying.
SECOND
The Quran authorises three Salat and they are given three specific names, they are Salat Al-Fajr (Dawn prayer), Salat Al-Wusta (Middle prayer) and Salat Al-Isha (Night prayer). If Salat meant submission or commitment to God or working righteous deeds, why would we have three different names for commitment to God? And why would the names of these Salat be related to specific times of the day?
THIRD
"Salat is decreed for the believers at specific times? 4103
Besides the fact that the Quran decrees three Salat by name, we also read in 4103 that God decreed the Salat for the believers for specific times of the day.
Now to claim that Salat means to be committed to God or to work righteous deeds, then once again this would mean that God allows us to be in submission to Him, or to be righteous, only at specific times of the day! Does this make any sense? Surely commitment to God and righteousness are independent of the time of the day!
FOURTH
"If you travel the land you commit no error by shortening your Salat if you fear that the disbelievers will try you. Surely, the disbelievers are your clear enemy." 4101
Once again if we assume that the Salat means submission to God or working righteous deeds, then this would mean that at times of fear from the enemy we should shorten our submission to God and our righteous deeds! Does this make any sense?
FIFTH
The words in 56 instruct us to wash our faces and arms and wipe our heads and feet before observing the Salat. If we follow the interpretations they give for Salat we would have to say that we are not allowed to submit to God nor work righteous deeds unless we wash first! It would also mean that if we wish to be in continuous submission to God that we should wash non stop all day long! In reality, because Salat is a physical ritual which is designed for us to glorify God, then it makes sense to observe a form of physical purification before worshipping our Maker.
SIXTH
"O you who believe, when the call for the Salat has been announced on Friday, you shall hasten to the commemoration of God, and drop all business. This is better for you, if you only knew." 629
Here we read about a call made for Salat on Friday, the following questions arise
SEVENTH
"Do not utter your Salat too loudly, nor whisper it; but seek a path in between." 17110
Once again if Salat means submission to God, or working righteous deeds, then the question of using a loud voice or whispering would not be relevant. However the words advising the use of a moderate voice indicates that God is speaking about a ritual that is spoken and this confirms once again that the Salat is a physical ritual.
To conclude, all the above evidence confirm without any doubt that the Salat is a physical ritual with specific physical acts and not a mere state of submission to God or working righteous deeds.
God says in the Quran that he created humanbeings and our duty is to worship him. Maby there is kind people in the world, but if he does not believe in Gods word, that means he is calling God a liar, he has put his trust in Satan when Satan has convinced him to not believe in God. The Good deeds will only have a gain for the believers on the day of judgment. This is only my opinion tough.
Salaam
Here is a site which tells you how to pray with help of verses from the Quran
http//www.quran-islam.org/main_topics/islam/pillars/al-salat_%28P1192%29.html
Salaam brother
Just beacuse im saying hajj is made in Mecca does not mean I think the rituals in hadith are the rituals in Kaabah.... there is even a whole surah called hajj in the Quran and those are the rituals I will follow when I visit the Kaabah in Mecca Inshallah.
Salaam
Peace,
In the name of God, the most Gracious, the most Merciful
While reading this I get the feeling some Quranists are starting to abrogate verses in the Quran purely through wishful thinking.
Some of the Quranists start losing the prayers, even if it is quite clear that we are commanded to pray by standing, bowing and prostrating. The circumstantial evidence is prominent, yet some of our brothers and sisters interpret the verses in strange ways.
Maybe the wish to differentiate with traditional Muslims is so big we fall victim to wishful thinking, interpreting the verses the way our mind wants.
Saying no to Hadith does not mean we should stop obeying God's hadith, in that case we would not even need the Quran. The Quran is a guide, easy to learn (thus also easy to interpret with a clear honest mind) and having access to it is not exclusively a must, but it certainly makes our salvation easier. Believing that Quran is the word of God is required though.
Most important, you can verify it yourselves by reading the Quran, is to believe in God alone, the Hereafter and to be righteous. Righteousness is self-explanatory, every human knows the foundation of being a good person (charity, being helpful, lawful, obedient, patient, kind etc), i.e.
a role-model.
The Qiblah is explained too and is the sacred mosque in Mecca (or Becca). It was changed during some period to expose hypocrites, but eventually changed back.
May God guide us in the right direction.
ps. I wrote the Basmala because everything I do I try to do in the name of God ds.
Well said brother I totally agree, Just beacuse something is in the hadith does not mean it is not in the Quran, but what differs is how to do it according to Quran and how to do it according to hadith.
Salaam
Salat is universally understood. As far as ka'ba is concerned if you read my post I said its not important where the Ka'ba is. Even the Ummayids at one time had a rival Ka'ba built. So the early Muslims did not give any significance to the Ka'ba being in Mecca. Salat is a huge issue for the Quran and is talked about in very different terms than the Ka'ba. The Quran assumes that salat is understood by anyone and for good reason since salat is universal among mankind.
If you read verse 2.177 you will see the Quran does not give any significance to Qibla. If you do not want to go to haj in Mecca and do not care about praying a certain direction there is nothing wrong Quranically with that. I am not sure the Qibla is towards Mecca but that is not relevant as far as Quran is concerned. But Qibla does mean prayer direction. I have a problem when people try to change the meaning of a term.
Salaam brother, here is the proofs that Mecca is our prayer Qibla and as far as Quran is concerned it is relevant to pray in a Qibla which God has given us.
Salaam brother,
there is some things I want to make clear to you,
Writing in caps locks wont make your words bigger then mine, and it is a childish and disrespectful so do not blame other for being poor little childrens if you yourself is acting like an idiot.
You are the only one who claims that the verse 4824 does not speak of Valley of Mekka, infact every Quran translation including Free Minds personal translater Progressive Muslim Al Quran has translated it as the innercity of Mekkah and and so on. The Question is now who is it who really has poor arabic? Unless every english Quran translater has poor arabic well then translate your own Quran. Here is the link that shows every english translated Quran and everyone names Valley of Mekkah, Innercity of Mekkah , Heart of Mekkah , Interior of Mekkah which all in other words mean the valley of Mekkah. So to claim that it is poor arabic well then you claim that everyone in the world who has translated the Quran in to english has poor arabic language. I wonder which one it is who actually has the poor understanding here?
http//www.islamawakened.com/Quran/48/24/default.htm Here is the link, check it out and you can see it for yourself. Otherwise if you have so good understanding translate the Quran yourself beacuse what you now has claimed when we check the fact is that everybody according to you who has translated the Al Quran in to english har poor understanding of the arabic language.
This verse clearly tells us that hajj is made in Kaabah.
4.597 GOD has appointed the Ka`bah, the Sacred Masjid, to be a sanctuary for the people, and also the Sacred Months, the offerings (to the Sacred Masjid), and the garlands marking them. You should know that GOD knows everything in the heavens and the earth, and that GOD is Omniscient.
This verse clearly tells us that Kabaah is the Sacred masjid (Masjid al haram)
This verse clearly tells us that Muhammed fought the disbelievers in Mekkah
This very next verse clearly tells us that the Sacred Masjid is in Mekkah since God is talking about the disbelievers in Mekkah who tried to stop Muhammed and the believers from entering THE SACRED MASJID
This verse clearly tells us that our Qiblah is towards the Sacred Masjid
So unless you cant find another Sacred Masjid in Mekkah which name is Kaabah well then you cant proov me wrong brother.
Salaam my brothers
No matter what proofs you bring to some people you can not convince them )
Salaam brother
haha this forum has really gone off topic )
Well if believers (those who follow God's way) after death enter directly paradise so what about the judgement day ? Where's the sense in that ? What about 6919-20 - it doesnt make any sense
This verses is talking about the people who are still living in the earth on the day of judgement.
Everyone who dies as a believer will go strictly to paradise as I have understood it.
And the one who goes to hell will wait until judgement day and they will all be banished into hell toghether.
"(At the time of his death) he was told, "Enter Paradise." He said, "Oh, I wish my people knew. That my Lord has forgiven me, and made me honourable" 3626-27
Salaam brother )
Salaam,
Yes, I was born in Sweden in 1982.
I would call God "Gud" in a Swedish translation of the Quran.
God bless you
Haha var bor du n?gonstans broder?
Salaam brother babansif,
As far as I could understand this was not what you were concerned about in the post I read about earlier and this was not what my answer was about.
Of course Allah is God, it is the same God, because Allah is a word for God in Arabic. However Al-Lah has its unique meaning in Arabic, like "The Deity" while God could probably be derived from "good". I had this funny interpretation of the Swedish word for God, Gud, Galaxy Universe Dimension, while I was going crazy with my mind a few years ago, but I could not help it. So the meaning of the words is simply what you make of them, but nothing is wrong as long as it is not making fun of God or inviting sin.
I read the Bible too, not only the Quran and I enjoy it, especially the stories about Jesus in the Gospel, but most everything else is interesting too.
If someone has stated that the definite name of God is Allah then they are probably wrong. You can call God by the name of your choice as long as it is not to humiliate Him or that the name in clearly inappropriate.
Anyway, I doubt this was Pazuzu's intent when he discuss with you. I think it has to do with that you cannot directly translate the word Allah to God, because the words have different meanings in other languages, as in Arabic it is The Deity and in English like I said it is probably derived from "good". His concern is that you can paraphrase the original Arabic at best, and that sure takes a lot of divine inspiration for it not to get wrong.
But to look superficially at it, Allah is God, Gud, Got, Nkoz, Deu, depending on which language you speak. It is not like you will confined to Hell for saying God about God.
To finalize this post, I hope this settles any misunderstanding that may have occurred, since I could see it looked like you just went parallel to each other's understanding the whole time. And I hope I did not just put more fuel to the fire.
God bless you all with prosperity both in this life and the next
Salaam brother,
There is no hard feelings )
I just wanted to point out that the word God is not what is wrong but the imagine of what God is.
If you gonna translate the Quran in to another language then God is the correct word.
Are you from sweden by the way?
Salaam babanisf,
Brother Pazuzu did not say you cannot translate it, he says you must paraphrase its contents because Arabic is used in a completely different way than English. Hence this he does not contradict the Quran, but the Quran talks enough about the fact it was revealed in Arabic to raise some concerns about it.
Please do not underestimate brother Pazuzu, I can see that he is blessed by the Lord in many ways. I would love to see a translation/interpretation done by him in the future.
Together intertwined in the Holy Spirit, we can probably derive the true meaning from the 1400 year old scripture. Simply by trying to understand the Quran by trying to interpret it is too risky business, we also need to have divine backup.
Even what we have of its understanding today we know enough to live righteous lives as long as we do not follow the mainstream religion. Most people know how to be a righteous person even with the Quran, even without the Bible, we seem to be born with this ability. Even criminals know that they have done wrong in many cases (but cannot explain it). I could have been a righteous believer even if I had not discovered the Quran, but now that I have it I want to understand it perfectly.
Regarding the topic of this thread, I have read the translation "Turn your homes into Qiblahs" many times and it automatically renders the traditional understanding irrational. I am open-minded to suggestions of the true interpretation of this phrase and this word, and I will pray to God about it that He may enlighten me. Recently I have felt that I am walking along with the Lord on a beach (yes this was an allegory).
God bless you and I did not intend to mock you babansif, just see to that you open your eyes and see that Pazuzu is not nuts regarding the meaning he is trying to convey. We may all be wrong in many cases, Messengers in past ages could be wrong, but in the Light of God they were never wrong.
Brother when someone tries to tell me that God is not Allah , then I will surely not follow his belief. Allah clearly mentions in the Quran that He has created all the languages in the world, Read in an arabic Bible ( The bible is not even originally from the arabic language) and you will se that God is named Allah in the bible to.
God is just the word for Allah in another language.
"Say, "Call Him Allah, or call Him the Rahman (The Almighty); whichever name you use, to Him belongs the "Asma al-Husna" (most beautiful names)." 17110
This verse makes the issue very clear. God here is telling us that He does not have one specific name. In God's infinite Greatness, there is not one name that is sufficient to make reference to Him. Indeed to God belongs all the beautiful names. The Quran lists over 90 names for God and not just the word Allah. We can call Him Allah, we can call Him "Al-Rahman", or we can call him by any of the beautiful names that are worthy of Him. Whether we use the Arabic word for a name like "Al-Wahid" for example, or the English equivalant which is "The One" does not make any difference. The restriction to use the Arabic words to call God is not a condition set by God. For this would falsely imply that only the Arabic language is worthy of calling on God!
Moreover, if God wanted us to call Him specifically by the name Allah, He would not include the words "whichever name you use" in 17110.
Some have also stated that ?Allah? is the real name of God, and that all the other titles such as Al-Rahmaan and Al-Raheem are the attributes of God. This claim is actually in contradiction to the Quran!
In 17110 we are told that to God belongs the beautiful names. The word used is ?Asmaa?. This word is the plural of the word ?Ism? which means NAME. It does not mean attribute. Naturally a name can have a meaning, and thus denote an attribute as well, but what matters is that God calls these titles as His names (Asmaa).
Therefore, if all these beautiful names are God?s names, would we still be justified to say that the word ?Allah? is the personal name of God? Would anyone be justified to claim that we cannot call God except by the name of Allah? How can we say that when God Himself told us that to Him belongs ALL the beautiful names and not just one name.
Therefore, for anyone to claim that the word Allah is the personal name of God or that the word Allah denotes the God of the Quran must indeed revise their knowledge in the light of all the issues discussed above.
Salaam brother
http//www.quran-islam.org/articles/god_or_allah_%28P1160%29.html
And they?re right. It doesn?t.
GOD is simply DOG spelled backwards. Whereas LAH, in Arabic, means that which cannot be understood or grasped directly, (and must therefore be understood indirectly, through its creation or manifestation).
Consider the following linguistic structure
Tagha ? Taghut (verb ?tagha? = to transgress limits / noun ?taghut? = the institution of transgressing limits). This is why a tyrant in Arabic, is described as ?taghia?. -
Now, try to apply the same logic to
Jabar ? jabarut (repairing / reform) -
kahan ? kahanut (occult astrological / priesthood) -
LAH-LAHUT -
In our day and age, when someone goes to a religious institution to study the LAHUT, it means he is going to study ?that which is mysterious and beyond the direct understanding of the human mind?.
Now you see what al-LAH (Allah) means?
Does the word GOD provide that meaning? Can you find me, in any living language today, a three-letter word that gives the same intrinsic depth as LAH?
The fact is, when you "translate" the Quran to English, and render Al-LAH as GOD, you are making a complete mockery of the text. This is why, after 9 years if research, I have reached the conclusion that the Quran is UNTRANSLATABLE. The best we can hope to do is paraphrase it.
Makkah, Bakkah, Yathrib, Hunayn, Sina?a, Badr, Misr, are all real places. No one is denying this. No one is denying that the KAABAH is the Bayt. No one is denying the relation between Makkah nad the Masjid. The problem is this The geography of these places, as described in the Quran, does NOT MATCH the actual terrain where we think these places are, by any stretch of the imagination.
To rephrase that the names of places mentioned in the Quran, have all been projected onto a FALSE physical territory.
4144
If we made it a non-Arabic Quran they would have said, "Why did it come down in that language?" Whether it is Arabic or non-Arabic, say, "For those who believe, it is a guide and healing. As for those who disbelieve, they will be deaf and blind to it, as if they are being addressed from faraway."
Just by this verse I can with the Quran proof that you are wrong when you say it is untranslatable, your claims is proven wrong just with one verse from one surah.
Only for those who disbelieve it is not understandable( As for those who disbelieve, they will be deaf and blind to it, as if they are being addressed from faraway.) to, and since you dont believe in the Quran when you say that it is Untranslatable when the Quran says that whether it is a Arabic or non Aarabic it is a guide for those who believe. it is pretty obvious that you will be deaf and blind to it when you make your absurd claims that contradicts Quran itself.
Salaam brother
Salaam Bro
I advice you to read the second E-book of brother Pazuzu. There, he show how by renaming places and cities, places where history of other prophets occured has been changed.
Now, you have also to know that quite all that you believe about Muhammad and mekka comes from books written under the abbaside caliphate (who were persians) by persians story tellers.
Let suppose that your understantig of some words is right (Words like Masjid, Haram, Qibla, Kaaba, Safa, marwa, maqaam Ibrahim).
Now, you still have to proove that there was a city called Mecca in Hijaz at the time of Muhammad.
You have to proove that Kaaba word in Quran refers to a cubic stone in desert.
There is many things you have to explain. For example why Quran never spoke about the "statues" inside his "kaaba". Is not that a great offense in your understanding ?
Dear babansif,
quite all of us believed one day (and many are still believing that) that kaaba was your kaaba, mecca was your mecca, masjid haram was your masjid haram.
For example, you probably believe that Egypt is misr. But Egypt became named Misr only after the death of Muhammad.
It is quite impossible to explain to a misri that misr is not misr.
It is also quite impossible to explain to a meccan believer that mecca is not mecca. For that, the first step would be to purify his mind from what he learned from the other books than words of God. As long as a mind is full with words not coming from God, there is no place for words of God and even God will not put there the good understanding.
Peace
Salaam brother,
If we gonna question everything by history, well then we can question everything in the Quran, Like some people claims that Allah does not mean God and so on, If we gonna think in that way we have to Questin the whole Quran, beacuse then who knows what Zakat, Salat meant at that time?
When we question everything then not even the Quran itself gets a reliable book.
But if we stop follow what other says about what this meant in that time , and what that meant in this time and only looking with Quranic words then it is pretty clear that Kaabah is in Mekkah and is Masjid Al Haram. And Quran is what I place as most reliable source not a Guy that claims that 1400 years ago this city was named this and kaabah was this, that is the same thing as following sunna / shia hadiths beacuse then you question the Quran with the sayings of humanbeings. There is many books which claim that Mekkah is the name of the same city as it was 1400 years ago, but this books dont agrees with your personal opinions and then you will probably reject that person sayings.
But since Quran is the only reliable source, and God has promised us to preserve is, If you follow Quran only God promises that it is a religion with no confusions.
And since if we Only go by Quranic words then it is telling us that Kaabah in Mekkah is the Sacred Masjid.
If we gonna reject Sunna/ Shia hadiths then we shall also reject everyone else sayings and only put Gods saying as reliable.
That is what I have done when I have come to a conclusion that Sacred Mosque is the Kaabah in Mekkah.
Salaam brother
Dear Babansif
We see the turning of thy face (for guidance to the heavens now Shall We turn thee to a Qibla that shall please thee. Turn then Thy face in the direction of the SACRED MOSQUE Wherever ye are, turn your faces in that direction. The people of the Book know well that that is the truth from their Lord. Nor is Allah unmindful of what they do. 2144
THE NEW QIBLA IS MASJID AL HARAM. FROM WHERE YOU GOT KAABA?
Who translated for you BI BATINAH as VALLEY. DO YOU KNOW THE EXACT WORD FOR WADI " "
ASK YOUR PROFESSOR OF ARABIC THE MEANING OF THE PREPOSITION "BI" and BATINAH. IF BATINAH IS VALLEY THEN SHOW THE PROOF.
IN 595 97 DO YOU FIND THE WORD "QIBLAH" ANYWHERE IN THE VERSE?
SHOW ME A VERSE FROM THE QURAN WHICH SAYS THAT MASJID AL HARAM IS IN THE VALLEY OF MECCA.
I THINK THAT YOU ARE A CHILD LOST IN THE VALLEY OF MECCA AND IN BETWEEN KAABA AND MASJID AL HARAM.
THIS IS NOT THE PLACE OF FANTASY, EVERYTHING POSTED SHOULD BE CONCRETE AND SUPPORTED BY THE CORRECT TRANSLATION OF THE VERSE.
YOUR UNDERSTANDING OF THE VERSES OF THE QURAN AND ARABIC LANGUAGE IN PARTICULAR IS VERY VERY POOR.
MAY ALLAH HELP YOU AND GUIDE YOU. PLEASE DON'T BE OFFENDED
ALL THE BEST FOR YOU IN FUTURE
THANKS
Salaam brother,
there is some things I want to make clear to you,
Writing in caps locks wont make your words bigger then mine, and it is a childish and disrespectful so do not blame other for being poor little childrens if you yourself is acting like an idiot.
You are the only one who claims that the verse 4824 does not speak of Valley of Mekka, infact every Quran translation including Free Minds personal translater Progressive Muslim Al Quran has translated it as the innercity of Mekkah and and so on. The Question is now who is it who really has poor arabic? Unless every english Quran translater has poor arabic well then translate your own Quran. Here is the link that shows every english translated Quran and everyone names Valley of Mekkah, Innercity of Mekkah , Heart of Mekkah , Interior of Mekkah which all in other words mean the valley of Mekkah. So to claim that it is poor arabic well then you claim that everyone in the world who has translated the Quran in to english has poor arabic language. I wonder which one it is who actually has the poor understanding here?
http//www.islamawakened.com/Quran/48/24/default.htm Here is the link, check it out and you can see it for yourself. Otherwise if you have so good understanding translate the Quran yourself beacuse what you now has claimed when we check the fact is that everybody according to you who has translated the Al Quran in to english har poor understanding of the arabic language.
This verse clearly tells us that hajj is made in Kaabah.
4.597 GOD has appointed the Ka`bah, the Sacred Masjid, to be a sanctuary for the people, and also the Sacred Months, the offerings (to the Sacred Masjid), and the garlands marking them. You should know that GOD knows everything in the heavens and the earth, and that GOD is Omniscient.
This verse clearly tells us that Kabaah is the Sacred masjid (Masjid al haram)
This verse clearly tells us that Muhammed fought the disbelievers in Mekkah
This very next verse clearly tells us that the Sacred Masjid is in Mekkah since God is talking about the disbelievers in Mekkah who tried to stop Muhammed and the believers from entering THE SACRED MASJID
This verse clearly tells us that our Qiblah is towards the Sacred Masjid
So unless you cant find another Sacred Masjid in Mekkah which name is Kaabah well then you cant proov me wrong brother.
Salaam my brothers
How do you do Salah using the Quran Alone?
Does anyone who takes the Quran as their only source of guidance do any rakah in their salah?
If so how do you know how many to do?
http//www.quran-islam.org/main_topics/islam/pillars/al-salat_%28P1192%29.html
This site has every information you need on how to perform salat with Quran only.
Salaam brother
Salaam, I will go straight to the point whoever makes any of these claims that salat is not a physical ritual are only showing their ignorance with the Quran!
Ever since the Internet has been available to anyone anywhere in the world, there has been a surge of new self appointed interpreters who are playing havoc with religion and are inventing many new absurd claims. Perhaps they are ego seekers seeking recognition and one way to get it is by being different!
Needless to say, we have heard these claims before where they claim that Salat is not a physical ritual but that it simply means to uphold commitment to God or even commitment to our daily activities. Others interpreted Salat to mean the state of submission to God.
Those who advocate such claims may sound convincing to innocent readers who may not be familiar with the Quran, but it can easily be shown that all such claims denote a person's poor understanding of the Quran!
Let us read the following Quranic verse, it will give us proof that Salat is a physical ritual and not just a commitment (to God).
?And if you are among them and you lead the SALAT for them, led a group of them stand with you and let them have their weapons with them, then when they have prostrated let them stand guard behind you and let another group who have not done the SALAT yet observe the SALAT also while being on guard and armed with their weapons. The disbelievers would dearly like you to be heedless of your weapons and goods, in order for them to take you in a single assault.? 4102
The above Quranic words confirm the following
1- The word Salat in 4102 cannot simply mean a commitment since the words in this verse speak of the Prophet (or leader) leading the Salat. How can the Prophet, or anyone leading the Salat be leading a commitment to God? Commitment to God is a personal attribute inside the believer and is not something that can be led in a congregation.
2- The command in 4102 is for various groups of believers to stand with their arms while observing the Salat. Do we need to be armed to be committed to God? Obviously not, but because the believers are observing a physical ritual which makes them vulnerable to attack from the enemy they would indeed need to hold their arms with them.
3- The words in 4102 also say that while each group is observing the Salat with the Prophet (or leader of the Salat) that another group should stand guard. So if we substitute the word Salat here with commitment to God, or submission to God, then not only would the believers need to hold their arms while being committed to God, but they would also need another group to guard them while they are committed to God!
4- But that is not all, the words ?when they have prostrated let them stand guard behind you and let another group who have not done their Salat yet, observe the Salat with you? would raise further questions. If we use the interpretation of Salat to mean commitment to God, this would mean that the second group who have not yet observed their Salat, or in other words, who have not committed to God?s orders yet, come to the Prophet who will lead them to committing to God?s orders! Yet another proof to confirm that this absurd interpretation of the word Salat is in total violation of every word in 4102.
5- If we assume that observing the Salat means to be committed to God?s orders, or be in submission to God, then it follows that whoever has not observed the Salat yet is not in submission to God yet! We read in 4102 about a group who have not observed their Salat yet, this would mean that they are not in submission to God yet. So what are they doing with the Prophet, and how can they be guarding the believers.
6- Does the act of being committed to God need to be done in groups? Or does it need a leader? Obviously not, this again confirms that the Salat is a physical ritual which can be observed in congregation and under a leader who leads the Salat.
7- The verse continues to say that the disbelievers would dearly love to ambush the believers when they are not standing armed during their Salat. Once again this would make absolutely no sense whatsoever to say that disbelievers would love to ambush the believers while they are committed to God?s orders!
The above Quranic words make it very clear that the Salat is a very specific physical ritual and not merely a state of commitment to God?s orders. And because it is a physical ritual which involves bending and prostrating, it makes the believers vulnerable to attack from the enemy at times of war, thus they need to hold on to their weapons and also need a second group to guard them while they are praying.
Further evidence is found in the following Quranic verses
1- The Quran authorises three Salat and they are given three specific names, they are Salat Al-Fajr (Dawn prayer), Salat Al-Wusta (Middle prayer) and Salat Al-Isha (Night prayer). If Salat meant submission or commitment to God, why would we have three different names for commitment to God? And why would the names of these Salat be related to different times of the day?
2- ?Salat is decreed for the believers at specific times? 4103
Besides the fact that Salat is given three different names in the Quran, we also read in 4103 that God decreed the Salat for the believers for specific times of the day.
Now to claim that Salat means to be committed to God or be in a state of submission to God, then once again this would mean that God allows us to be in submission to Him only at specific times of the day! Surely commitment to God is a concept that is independent of the times of the day!
The specific times for the three Salat are given in (1778 and 11114). Once again if Salat means submission to God then we are allowed to submit to God three times a day and only during the specified times for each Salat!
3- ?When you travel in the land, you commit no error by shortening your Salat if you fear that the disbelievers may attack you. Surely, the disbelievers are your ardent enemies.? 4101
Once again if we assume that the Salat means commitment or submission to God, then this would mean that at times of fear from the enemy we should shorten our submission to God! Does this make any sense?
4- The words in 56 speak about washing the face and arms and wiping the head and feet before observing the Salat. Once again to interpret Salat to mean submission to God would mean that we cannot submit to God unless we wash first? It would also mean that if we wish to be in continuous submission to God that we should wash non stop all day long? On the other hand, because Salat is a physical ritual which is observed to glorify God then it makes sense to observe a form of physical purification before addressing our Maker.
5- ?When the call for Salat is made on the day of Jummah (Friday) you shall hasten to the commemoration of God? 629
Here we read about a call made for Salat on Friday, the following questions arise
6- ?You shall not utter your Salat too loudly, nor secretly; but use a moderate tone.? 17110
Once again if Salat means submission to God then the question of using a loud voice or whispering would not be relevant. However the words advising the use of a moderate voice indicates that God is speaking about a ritual that is spoken and this confirms once again that the Salat is a physical ritual.
To conclude, all the above evidence confirms without any doubt that the Salat is a physical ritual with specific physical acts and not a mere state of submission or commitment to God.
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