Whoa! Well done. Great chart showing how divided we are.

http//www.imageshack.us/

Peace Andya,

I do not like the practice of 'Bucaillism'

Hold on! ) Please tell a bit more. What's this?

Hi all,

Rolling on the floor, laughing lol

Guys, let's cut this thread, it's all over

Apperantly, for many centuries of Dark Ages Christian scolars have done a great work to develope a sophisticated sholasticism techniques. Surely they will "prove" you that black is actually white pretending to be black, Jesus is God, Trinity is not a foolish innovation of clergy, mickey mouse was one of us, etc

This kind of "arguments" is nothing but waste of time, effort and nerve cells. There is no point. "Deaf, dumb, and blind, they will not revert" (21

They believe that bible is a word of god - actually it is. It's a word of their own god. They invented their god while recompiling re-editing the actual Word of God.
Let it be, guys "They are harming their own "Selves" (c) Quran

And by the way, if a Scripture, being the Word of God contains a Law and basic order of interaction and relationship between ALL people, nations etc. logically it must be availabe to everybody. How it comes that Gospels of Mark contain a "secret" part (which was discovered in letters of saint Clement of Alexandria (3rd century) that can be only available to the elites?
Is it elitarian religion? So let the so-called "elite" go by it's own way

Hi, I would also like to participate in this project!
By now I can share my webhosting which supports php+mysql and other stuff for maybe mirroring or something like this.
By the way, what shall be the tech concept of the site - will it be a blog/knowledgebase or just heap of webpages collected in one place? What about making it multilanguage?
And what about design stuff?

And, by the way, in Shabir Ahmad's "Quran as it explains itself" there is exact the same thing about 117, which should be linked with 2130 that recites about the origins of Life beginning in water.

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hi!

I think you've got the idea about Throne allegorically expressing the Authority right.

There's an interesting moment with translation of 117. I suggest that Khalifa's translation should be used, because it's the only one that makes sense

Khalifa
He is the One who created the heavens and the earth in six days - and His (earthly) domain was completely covered with water - in order to test you, to distinguish those among you who work righteousness. Yet, when you say, "You will be resurrected after death," those who disbelieve would say, "This is clearly witchcraft."

http//www.submission.org/quran/webqt.php?&indata=11-7&t[]=1&t[]=2&t[]=3&t[]=4&t[]=5&t[]=6

This verse basically points out that Earth at the beginning was covered with liquid, which is, I guess, in accordance with modern science.

The next troubling point is about time. Taking into consideration that there's allegorical ayats as well as staightforward ayats (37) we can come to the conclusion that those frightening numbers like "50.000 years" are used to show the relativity of time, which is again in complete accordance with modern science. There's some info about this matter at Harun Yahya's site - http//www.harunyahya.com/refuted19.php in part named "Relativity in the Qur'an".