Peace. As someone who learns best visually, I learn in terms of images and need to be exposed to or create vivid mental images to retain information. Living in the West, I am exposed to the documenteries of patriarchs published by Christian media houses and other religiously themed films, illustrated and visually-friendly Bibles, and of course, Christian iconography. However, I find there to be a lack of these same types of things in Islam. Although reading the Qur'an is fine, I love to have secondary visual resources to re-inforce Islamic lessons and values. Having stumbled across a few Islamic flash presentations, online shorts, etc. I find these to be a great tool to help me learn and retain information. If anyone has online resources for Islamic visual aids, such as links to flash demos, pictures, movies, basically anything that can be visually observed, if you could share your favorite online and offline content both, that would be great. Thanks! DCS

Peace be upon you DCS, I agree, the God is within, the SUBJECT of all Objects. Certainly not a noun D

peace All, I think some of the concepts discussed wthin this thread are some of the most vital in one's understanding. these should be carefully considered. It personally took me a while to appreciate the significance of them. if i may answer some of the questions raised in this thread by use of analogy... when i sit a test, the higher mark i get, the better the grade, i.e. the better the reward. not all people sitting the test will have an equal outcome. some people do not revise and take the test but get a good mark. whilst some can revise and take the test and fail. some can revise and take the test and get an excellent grade. there are different outcomes no matter what method you approach the test. I hope we can realise there are many ways. applying 'al quran' is simply one way. It is written by the one who set the test, thus surely it is one of the best guides, but not the only guide as 'al quran' states itself (e.g. 4153) When i buy a desk from Ikea, sure i could assemble it without reading the instructions by the creator of the desk, the instructions are just one way of acheiving the goal. If my inner reasoning is correct, i will assemble the desk myself (like the story of Abraham). I hope this is of help. Wakas ps - remember, whilst stories in 'al quran' (the reading) are apparently in the past, they have been preserved for future generations. why is that? it is because they can provide lessons. specific lessons are not exclusive to a specific experience, i.e. the same lesson can be gained from many experiences. if you happen to learn a lesson from your experience rather than from 'al quran' brilliant, but if you got it from 'al quran' thats also good. ayatin/signs are not only within 'al quran', they are also outwith it. The significance of 4153 is awesome.

His former student Mustafa Akyol, who has long time declared his freedom from the Adnan Oktar wrote most of the books on Evolution. Mustafa Akyol is now a prominent figure in Intelligent Design movement. Unfortunately, his books are published under the pen name Harun Yahya and credited to Adnan Oktar. Like many of Adnan's former students who know well the dirty tricks of their former master, Mustafa Akyol too is trying to forget the days when he was a young and naive university student. Adnan Oktar, the creator of the pseudonym "Harun Yahya" is taking credit for the work of his followers. It can't get any clearer than that. Adnan Oktar is a despicable person. Peace truth, I've actually been contacted by this Mustafa Akyol some time in the past, when my counter article was still hot. We conversed through e-mail a few times and I must say that apart from our differences regarding evolution he's a pleasant person. I don't quite catch the info you quoted. Has he broken away from the HY group, and what's his position now, is he still anti-evolution? ANd most important, how do you know about this?