Thank you so much

Excellent thread!
thank you all

Were they created from nothing? Are they the creators?

Did they create the heavens and the earth? Indeed, they have no certainty.

That's it!
cool!

Peace Wakas

Thanks a lot for correcting me.

Yes I know the answer and I came to the conclusion only after critical evaluation of 4101/2/3 wherein there is no traveling through the land, and no timed salat.

I am half way on my answer and just trying to perfect it, as and when I am convinced and confident of my answer I will post it.

Thanks

Thanx

Very good question!

Excuse me for not being able to answer.

Peace

It does still persist. September 22-23. This is when jews celebrate yom kippur this year. They fast for 25 hours.

Peace

Perhaps that's why @noshirk's findings are more accurate?
Ramadan fasting DAY on Sept 22-23rd?

Peace

@FS

Are you OK?

rotfl

Peace @Hizbullah

that's Ayman's Ijtihad's version...

I am starting to look for @noshirk version which seems more realistic as it confirms Judaism customs...

Please let me know about @noshirk's findings since it interests me as well, especially as it confirms Judaic custom.

Thank you

@FS

What I meant is that you are too prolific for me, I have the attention span of a gnat, so I like twitter more than long posts )

I like twitter more than long posts

me too... bravo

I am in flux at the moment about what Ramadan means, between the ijtihads of Rashid Khalifah, then @Layth, @Ayman and now @shirk...

Just now, I tend to believe it is a marker for the beginning of a period, at which it is asked to fast from 3 to 10 days, and Allah knows best what it means.

Also the marker, can also be the period itself.

Peace

Thank you for your answer...
I know exactly what you mean... I feel the same...

Peace

Excellent post!

Thank you so very much!

Peace

As Einstein said, the sublime truth should be both elegant and beautiful...

I have a tendency to accept explanations of truth that are simple and graceful.

Thank you for this elaborate study which FEELS right...

Peace

Muhammad (P) was instructed as his followers to fast in Ramadan, now why wouldn't he?

OK, thanx.
So, you mean Ramadan is just one night?

Peace

Peace,

Making Fasting at a specific period came enforced in Madinah, much later than the first revelation, and after the famous verses on fasting got revealed, Muhammad is reported to have fasted 9 official Ramadans.

Please excuse me, but what are the official Ramadans?
And who does say that Muhammad fasted?
Thank you

Peace

http//www.islamicfinder.org/prophet/list.php?start=40&lang=english

"
42. When did the first revelation come down to him?
On Monday, 21st of Ramadan, at night (August 10th, 610 AC). He was forty years then."

Thank you

Qurnic lh () has naught to do with the Sunni tradition of namaz!

SLM

Now this is truly interesting!
Could you please elaborate what does Sloh mean?
Thank you

Peace

Since the Gregorian calendar was in vogue when Muhammad existed, it would be quite possible to calculate exactly which month corresponds with Ramadan, or at least the first month of the Muslim calendar which started after Hijra, wouldn't it?

Thank you

Based on what I read in the Gospel.. It seems this Jesus character teaches "Eastern Religion" customized for the Jews..
Eastern religion (Buddhism, Taoism, etc..) are focusing on DEEDS and that's why they're being labeled as "DHARMIC" religion (Dharma is a Sanskrit word for deed) in contrast to the western religion which are focusing on FAITH/BELIEF and RITUALS.

Based on the writings in the Gospel; Jesus is focusing on DEEDS in contrast to Rabbanic Judaism who are focusing on RELIGION/RITUALS (Sabbath, beard, headscarf, stoning adulterer, destroying statue/idols, offering/sacrifice, prayer utterance etc..).

"Reap what you sow" is definitely a description of "Karmic" law originated from the east (Hinduism/Buddhism)
"Lead by serving", "Simple life" and "Haughty shall be humbled and humble shall be exalted" are definitely originated from Taoism

Thank you Jafar for the clarification and argumentation.
As you are a true erudite, it is always a pleasure to read your enlightening posts.

Peace

Peace,

I agree and this is what I tried to show in my opening post of this thread.

I also feel that rituals are burden but we have to follow it because it is how Allah guided many of us only because of our level towards Him. If we upgrade in our grades/levels then surely Allah makes things easy for us and may remove all the rituals/burden from us. BUT we have to be honest to ourselves and have to follow what Allah has guided us to.

May Allah increase our knowledge and guide us on His path pr
mmKhan

I like this remark, and was very glad to read it, I agree!

But the guy just asked which known Gregorian month was in existence when Qur'an was reveled?
Was it July or November when it was Ramadan for Muhammad and when the revelation of the Qur'an started?
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