Male/ Female Male

Age 24

Nationality Indonesia

Parents background ( if different from nationality)

Born as a Muslim? ( in a muslim family) Yes

Level of education College

Are you from a city or from the country? City

How did you first come to learn about Quranism ( for a lack of a better word) ? Research

And at what age? 20-21

Do you personaly know fellow Quranist or are you alone with your view in your social network? yes, my brother and sisters

Do you primarily reject Hadith on the basis of authority or authenticity? Both

Salaam,

There are plenty of Indonesians here. They're just very quiet p. (I am an Indonesian too btw).

are you talking about me, sister?

As much as the Indonesian muslims are the majority there, only a small amount adopts "Saudi Arabia" culture.

yeah, but they keep growing day by day, headscarves are everywhere now.. we keep losing our Indonesian identity..

about this assault, from the recent news, it is suspected as an organized assault, because

1. The police already knew that they will be an assault that day, but they didn't send enough forces to prevent it nor they do anything to evacuate the ahmadis
2. The attacker wear blue/green ribbon in their chest/clothes, for what?
3. The cameraman, the video is professionally taken (not the one from mobile phone), the angle is perfect, the length is long and detailed, from beginning to the end and he can safely take the picture in the midst of that chaos, no police or attacker seem disturbed by his existence, who is he?

and anyway, it's not a big secret in here that the police is already fall to the hand of the fanatics Sunni (FPI especially)..

oh almost forgot, The President already stated that any violent organization need to be disbanded, what the FPI says? they say "if you disbanded us, we will overthrow this government and make the president as the next Ben Ali"

looking as this circumstances and the rising of arabisation in Indonesia in the past decade (the headscarves are everywhere!!!!), mayber there will be no more Indonesia, but instead changed to indorabia.. sigh..

AFAIK,

??? eh dah?

AFAIK = As Far As I Know ;D

sure, if you are living in a world where every other person is a criminal!

umm.. if every person is a criminal, then who is the victim?? ???

Salam..

i remember something about this, isn't the name of days in arabic week are based on numbers,such as follows (correct me if i'm wrong)

1 = ahad = sunday
2 = isnaini = monday
3 = thalasa = tuesday
4 = arba'a = wednesday
5 = khamis = thursday
6 = sittah = friday
7 = saba'ah or sabtu = saturday

now i begins to wonder why the names of other days of the week are "numbers-based" EXCEPT for the sixth day only, could this be an attempt to justify the "salatul jumuah" theory? just a thought..

There is no hope here? laugh

rotfl

welcome
pleased to meet you too.. ;D

Wow great magic and lie.indeed you proved me wrong! great research . deliberately made this mistake to test your IQ which is very high so i will get many lands destroyed as i am a human and not allah and you will never believe in me unless i talk like a robot with perfection. Only Allah can be a messenger ann other prophets and messengers were super humans who never made mistakes. Great Job free minders you are all guided. i just make foolish gestures and it only increses my stupidity. Great!

??? are you high?

Peace..

6128 and when jesus son of mary said o children of israel i am the messenger of allah unto you confirming torah before me and giving glad tidings of a messenger to come after me whose name would be one who praises allah more than others but when he came to them with clear proofs they said "this is plain magic"

Surah 61 only have 14 verses..

1. Zionazis! Exposing Robert Spencer, Ali Sina, Bill Warner, David Horowitz and other Warmongers
2. Zionazi Crusaders Exposing Robert Spencer, Ali Sina, Bill Warner, David Horowitz and other Warmongers
3. Zionazi Christofascists Exposing Robert Spencer, Ali Sina, Bill Warner, David Horowitz and other Warmongers
4. Three Scoundrels Exposing Robert Spencer, Ali Sina, Bill Warner, and other Warmongers
5. Complete Intelligent Guide for Idiots Robert Spencer, Ali Sina, Bill Warner and David Horowitz
6. Complete Intelligent Guide for Infidels Robert Spencer, Ali Sina, Bill Warner and David Horowitz
7. Complete Peacemaker's Guide for Warmongers Robert Spencer, Ali Sina, Bill Warner and David Horowitz
8. ....

i like option 5.. ;D

Peace

To call someone a non believer is a strong accusation if you do not know them and not a very nice thing to do. A true believer will not come up with mumbo jumbo like you have. The world will one day end and God will make his judgement, but no one will know that day till it comes, give me proof from the quran to suggest it will be 2012 or 2050 or etc... Basically the true believers will not need to worry on that day but those who are wicked and rejected God after believing. Just chill out enjoy life, practice your faith and let Gods judgement come when he sees it fit, we have nothing to be worried about if our hearts are clean, we do good, we give charity, we believe in God and the life after. peace

Peace

Hope

Salam..

nicely said...

Salam..

I follow the Quran and the teaching of the Prophet Muhamad (based on sound hadiths) and I believe in all the prophets sent before him. If that is sunni, then yes I am.

I follow the Quran and the teaching of the Prophet Muhammad (which tell us to uphold Al-Qur'an) and i believe in all the prophets sent before him. If that is sunni, then yes i am.

in reality, the majority of Sunni call me a kafir...
but i don't really care about human opinion about me (including the "holy" human opinion), what i really care is becoming a good Muslim in God's eyes..

Salam..

some 'extra'-sunnis will tell u that u cant brush your teeth in Ramadan, but i brush my teeth anyway, like TheAlinatore said, "in fasting we are ordered to abstain from sexual intercourse, eating, and drinking". Thats right, i dont love to eat toothpaste, do u? ;D

actually when i was a 8 years old child, i have a toothpaste with strawberry taste and when i was fasting that time, i "accidentally" eat it when i'm brushing my teeth, and it's yummy p
don't tell my parent!!!

Ulema(scholars) believe that if we pray in Arabic our prayers are answered faster! elhamdulillah

2186 If My servants ask you about Me, I am near answering the calls of those who call to Me. So let them respond to Me and acknowledge Me that they may be guided.

God is near to those who call to Him, so maybe their god(s) didn't near enough to their non-Arabic speaking follower..

Salamun alaikum..

http//www.vnn.org/editorials/ET0001/ET25-5336.html

i got this link from my friend, it's about vedic culture influence in arabia before the advent of Islam..

i quote some interesting point from that article here..

The Kaba temple which was misappropriated and captured by Muslims was originally an International Vedic Shrine. The ancient Vedic scripture Harihareswar Mahatmya mentions that Lord Vishnu's footprints are consecrated in Mecca. An important clue to this fact is that Muslims call this holy precint Haram which is a deviation of the Sanskrit term Hariyam, i.e. the precint of Lord Hari alias Lord Vishnu. The relevant stanza reads

"Ekam Padam Gayayantu MAKKAYAANTU Dwitiyakam Tritiyam Sthapitam Divyam Muktyai Shuklasya Sannidhau"

and

The Black Stone which is the Shiv Emblem (also known as Sange Aswad which is a corrupted form of the Sanskrit word Sanghey Ashweta--meaning non-white stone) still survives in the Kaba as the central object of Islamic veneration.

and also

In fact the names of the holiest of Muslim cities Mecca and Medina come from the Sanskrit words Makha-Medini which means the land of Fire-Worship. Even the most ancient names of these 2 cities were Mahcorava- which came from Mahadeva (Lord Shiva) and Yathrabn - which came from Yatra-Sthan (place of pilgrimage).

what do you think, is there some truth in this article?