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  • What is the cause of existence of the Universe we live in?
    M mike789

    There's no Universe. It is part of Satan's deception to hide God and make people feel insignificant. The sky decorated by lights/stars is a physical structure or dome above the flat Earth. We are surrounded by an ice wall. The Sun and the moon are small relative to the size of the flat Earth. The Sun is local not 93 million miles away. For scientific evidence Google Flat Earth

    Questions/Comments on the Quran

  • were we with god previously?
    M mike789

    Quran points to a prior existence. this is our second chance, not first.

    Read thishttp//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9608048.0
    http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9608048.0

    Questions/Comments on the Quran

  • We are on Earth because of the sins we committed in our past lives...
    M mike789

    Salaam...

    Yes this Islamic view was originally proposed by Rashad Khalifa and propogated by his Submission group. The idea that there was a great war in heaven between the forces of Satan on one side and that of Archangel Michael on the other side has been popular since Biblical times (Revelation 127-13).

    http//image.slidesharecdn.com/3-thegreatcontroversybegins-110908080255-phpapp02/95/the-great-controversy-begins-mavule-12-728.jpg?cb=1315476043

    While this theory is popular, the reason I never got around to accepting it is this - I have never been able to fully understand how the sequence of events took place... assuming that we humans are those beings who lived in heaven and were kicked out and sent to Earth for our supporting of Satan.. Where does the story of Adam come about? I mean, when we already sided with Satan and are destined for this test on Earth, when did the whole fruit and tree story happen? 'Coz the Quran says Adam was sent from heaven to Earth after this fruit transgression. But then what about humans siding with Satan? What about Satan refusing to bow down to Adam, did that happen after the war or before? Why would that be happening if we are all destined to come to Earth for this test.... what was Adam doing in heaven if he already lost God's support by siding with Satan earlier on during the great war?

    I don't see a clear sequence of events happening... its all vague and jumbled up.

    http//whanethewhip.wdfiles.com/local--files/motivational%3Aif-heaven-is-so-great-why-was-there-a-war-there/if-heaven-is-so-great-why-was-there-a-war-there.jpg

    Peace

    I do not know what percent of the Bible is corrupted and what is truly the word of God. So I will stick to the Quran. In this context, there is no mention of war or fight in the Quran. There is only the mention of a quarrel.

    General Issues / Questions

  • We are on Earth because of the sins we committed in our past lives...
    M mike789

    Salam,

    Nice read. But...
    ...there are much more worse sins than polytheism, commited by people who are monotheists. What about them ?

    God decides which sins are worse than others not you and I. God has clearly mentioned in the Quran that He may forgive all sins except idolatry. That is the only unforgivable sin.

    General Issues / Questions

  • We are on Earth because of the sins we committed in our past lives...
    M mike789

    This is taken from Rashad.

    It does not matter even if George W Bush came up with it. What matters is that this view is fully backed by Quranic verses.

    General Issues / Questions

  • Some New Questions About The Qur'an
    M mike789

    Atheists are actually polytheists. They ascribe their existence to matter. In order words, they believe in random chemical processes which changed non living matter into living things. They think the Earth created them. Thus they are polytheists. There is no such thing as an atheist if you really think about it.

    General Issues / Questions

  • The Paris massacre - Silence as always
    M mike789

    http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9607576.0

    General Issues / Questions

  • Am I on to something?
    M mike789

    I think you might be a little dumb or something. Thanks for asking though.

    Do you really think that America feels "secure"? lol, what world are you in?

    USA is a huge country. Most of it is very safe compared to Pakistan or Iraq.

    General Issues / Questions

  • 54:1 can not be interpreted as moon landing because moon landing was a hoax.
    M mike789

    I was entertaining the same thought, but what does it refer to then? Something in the future?

    Maybe something in the future or past. I have no knowledge of it. But I am sure it can not refer to a hoax.

    General Issues / Questions

  • I have sinned big time :(
    M mike789

    3953 Say "O my Servants who have transgressed against their souls! Despair not of the Mercy of Allah for Allah forgives all sins for He is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.

    General Issues / Questions

  • 9/11 Attacks: No planes hit the towers! Scientific Evidence!
    M mike789

    A former CIA and civilian pilot has sworn an affidavit, stating that no planes flew into the Twin Towers as it would have been physically impossible. John Lear is a retired airline captain and former CIA pilot. He is a former Lockheed L-1011 Captain and is highly regarded in aviation circles. He has flown over 150 aircraft and has earned every certificate granted by the Federal Aviation Administration. John also held 18 world speed records and has worked for 28 different Aircraft Corporations.

    http//www.aquarianradio.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/John-lear.jpeg

    .................

    No Boeing 767 airliners hit the Twin Towers as fraudulently alleged by the government, media, NIST and its contractors. Such crashes did not occur because they are physically impossible as depicted for the following reasons

    A. In the case of UAL 175 going into the south tower, a real Boeing 767 would have begun 'telescoping' when the nose hit the 14 inch steel columns which are 39 inches on center. The vertical and horizontal tail would have instantaneously separated from the aircraft, hit the steel box columns and fallen to the ground.

    B. The engines when impacting the steel columns would have maintained their general shape and either fallen to the ground or been recovered in the debris of the collapsed building. One alleged engine part was found on Murray Street but there should be three other engine cores weighing over 9000 pounds each. Normal operating temperatures for these engines are 650?C so they could not possibly have burned up. This is a photo of a similar sized engine from a McDonnell-Douglas MD-11 which impacted the ocean at a high rate of speed. You can see that the engine remains generally intact.(photo, http//www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/...rld/main546355. shtml)

    C. When and if the nose of an airplane came in contact with the buildings 14 inch by 14 inch steel box columns and then, 37 feet beyond, the steel box columns of the building core the momentum of the wings would have slowed drastically depriving them of the energy to penetrate the exterior steel box columns. The spars of the wing, which extend outward, could not possibly have penetrated the 14 inch by 14 inch steel box columns placed 39 inches on center and would have crashed to the ground.

    D. The argument that the energy of the mass of the Boeing 767 at a speed of 540 mph fails because

    a. No Boeing 767 could attain that speed at 1000 feet
    above sea level because of parasite drag which doubles with velocity and parasite power which cubes with velocity.

    b. The fan portion of the engine is not designed to accept
    the volume of dense air at that altitude and speed.

    E. The piece of alleged external fuselage containing 3 or 4 window cutouts is inconsistent with an airplane that hit 14 inch steel box columns, placed 39 inches in center, at over 500 mph. This fuselage section would be telescopically crumpled had it actually penetrated the building as depicted in the CNN video. It is impossible for it to have then re-emerged from the building and then fallen intact and unburned as depicted.

    F. The Purdue video fails because no significant part of the Boeing 767 or engine thereon could have penetrated the 14 inch steel columns and 37 feet beyond the massive core of the tower without part of it falling to the ground. The Purdue video misrepresents the construction of the core of the building and depicts unidentified parts of the airplane snapping the core columns which were 12"x36". The Purdue video also misrepresents what would happen to the tail when the alleged fuselage contacted the core. The tail would instantaneously separate from the empennage (aft fuselage). Further, the Purdue video misrepresents, indeed it fails to show, the wing box or center section of the wing in the collision with the core. The wing box is a very strong unit designed to hold the wings together and is an integral portion of the fuselage. The wing box is designed to help distribute the loads of the wings up-and-down flexing in flight.

    G. My analysis of the alleged cutout made by the Boeing 767 shows that many of the 14-inch exterior steel box columns which are shown as severed horizontally, do not match up with the position of the wings. Further, several of the columns through which the horizontal tail allegedly disappeared are not severed or broken. In addition, the wing tips of the Boeing 767 being of less robust construction than the inner portions of the wings could not possibly have made the cookie-cutter pattern as shown in the aftermath photos. The wing tips would have been stopped by the 14 inch steel box columns and fallen to the ground.

    H. The debris of the Boeing 767, as found after the
    collapse, was not consistent with actual debris had there really been a
    crash. Massive forgings, spars from both the wing and horizontal and vertical stabilizers, landing gear retract cylinders, landing gear struts, hydraulic reservoirs and bogeys oxygen bottles, a massive keel beam, bulkheads and the wing box itself cold not possibly have 'evaporated' even in a high intensity fire. The debris of the collapse should have contained massive sections of the Boeing 767, including 3 engine cores weighing approximately 9000 pounds apiece which could not have been hidden. Yet there is no evidence of any of these massive structural components from either 767 at the WTC. Such complete disappearance of 767s is impossible.

    III.

    1. My opinion, based on extensive flight experience both as captain and instructor in large 3 and 4 engine aircraft is that it would have been impossible for an alleged hijacker with little or no time in the Boeing 767 to have taken over, then flown a Boeing 767 at high speed, descending to below 1000 feet above mean sea level and flown a course to impact the twin towers at high speed for these reasons

    A. As soon as the alleged hijackers sat in the pilots seat of the Boeing 767 they would be looking at an EFIS (Electronic Flight Instrumentation System) display panel comprised of six large multi-mode LCDs interspersed with clusters of 'hard' instruments. These displays process the raw aircraft system and flight data into an integrated picture of the aircraft situation, position and progress, not only in the horizontal and vertical dimensions, but also with regard to time and speed as well.

    Had they murdered the pilot with a box knife as alleged there would be blood all over the seat, the controls, the center pedestal, the instrument panel and floor of the cockpit. The hijacker would have had to remove the dead pilot from his seat which means he would have had electrically or manually place the seat in its rearmost position and then lifted the murdered pilot from his seat, further distributing blood, making the controls including the throttles wet, sticky and difficult to hold onto.

    Even on a clear day a novice pilot would be wholly incapable of taking control and turning a Boeing 767 towards New York because of his total lack of experience and situational awareness under these conditions. The alleged hijackers were not 'instrument rated' and controlled high altitude flight requires experience in constantly referring to and cross-checking attitude, altitude and speed instruments. Using the distant horizon to fly 'visually' under controlled conditions is virtually impossible particularly at the cruising speed of the Boeing 767 of .80 Mach.

    The alleged 'controlled' descent into New York on a relatively straight course by a novice pilot in unlikely in the extreme because of the difficulty of controlling heading, descent rate and descent speed within the parameters of 'controlled' flight.

    Its takes a highly skilled pilot to interpret the "EFIS" (Electronic Flight Instrument Display) display, with which none of the hijacker pilots would have been familiar or received training on, and use his controls, including the ailerons, rudder, elevators, spoilers and throttles to effect, control and maintain a descent. The Boeing 767 does not fly itself nor does it automatically correct any misuse of the controls.

    B. As soon as the speed of the aircraft went above 360 knots (=414 mph) indicated airspeed a "clacker" would have sounded in the cockpit. The 'clacker' is a loud clacking sound, designed to be irritating, to instantly get the attention of the pilot that he is exceeding the FAA-authorized speed of the aircraft. The clacker had no circuit breaker on September 11, 2001 although it does now simply because one or more accidents were caused, in part, by the inability to silence the clacker which made decision, tempered with reasoning, impossible because of the noise and distraction.

    C. Assuming, however, that the alleged hijacker was able to navigate into a position to approach the WTC tower at a speed of approximately 790 feet per second the alleged hijacker would have about 67 seconds to navigate the last 10 miles. During that 67 seconds the pilot would have to line up perfectly with a 208 ft. wide target (the tower) and stay lined up with the clacker clacking plus the tremendous air noise against the windshield and the bucking bronco-like airplane, exceeding the Boeing 767 maximum stability limits and encountering early morning turbulence caused by rising irregular currents of air.

    He would also have to control his altitude with a high degree of
    precision and at the alleged speeds would be extremely difficult.

    In addition to this the control, although hydraulically boosted, would be very stiff. Just the slightest control movements would have sent the airplane up or down at thousands of feet a minute. To propose that an alleged hijacker with limited experience could get a Boeing 767 lined up with a 208 foot wide target and keep it lined up and hold his altitude at exactly 800 feet while being aurally bombarded with the clacker is beyond the realm of possibility. .

    That an alleged hijacker could overcome all of these difficulties and hit a 208 foot wide building dead center at the north tower and 23 feet east of dead center at the south tower is simply not possible. At the peak of my proficiency as a pilot I know that I could not have done it on the first pass. And for two alleged hijackers, with limited experience to have hit the twin towers dead center on September 11, 2001 is total fiction. It could not happen.

    IV.

    1. No Boeing 767 airliner(s) exceeded 500 mph in level flight at approximately 1000 feet on 9/11 as fraudulently alleged by the government, media, NIST and its contractors because they are incapable of such speeds at low altitude.

    2. One of the critical issues of the 'impossible' speeds of the aircraft hitting the World Trade Center Towers alleged by NIST as 443 mph (385 kts. M.6, American Airlines Flight 11) and 542 mph (470 kts. M.75, United Airlines 175) is that the VD or dive velocity of the Boeing 767 as certificated by the Federal Aviation under 14 CFR Part 25 Airworthiness Standards; Transport Category Transports of 420 kts CAS (Calibrated Air Speed) makes these speeds achievable. This is unlikely.

    3. The 'Dive Velocity' VD is 420 knots CAS (calibrated airspeed)(483 mph). Some allege that this speed, 420 knots (483 mph) is near enough to the NIST alleged speeds that the NIST speeds 443 (385 kts.) mph and 542 mph (471 kts.), could have been flown by the alleged hijackers and are probably correct.

    4. In fact VD of 420 knots (483 mph) is a speed that is a maximum for certification under 14 CFR Part 25.253 High Speed Characteristics and has not only not necessarily been achieved but is far above VFC (390 kts. 450 mph) which is the maximum speed at which stability characteristics must be demonstrated.(14 CFR 25.253 (b ).

    5. What this means is not only was VD not necessarily achieved but even if it was, it was achieved in a DIVE demonstrating controllability considerably above VFC which is the maximum speed under which stability characteristics must be demonstrated. Further, that as the alleged speed is considerably above VFC for which stability characteristics must be met, a hijacker who is not an experienced test pilot would have considerable difficulty in controlling the airplane, similar to flying a bucking bronco, much less hitting a 208 foot target dead center, at 800 feet altitude (above mean sea level) at the alleged speed.

    6. Now to determine whether or not a Boeing 757 or Boeing 767 could even attain 540 miles per hour at 800 feet we have to first consider what the drag versus the power ratio is.

    Drag is the effect of the air pushing against the frontal areas of the fuselage and wing and horizontal and vertical stabilizers. Drag also includes the friction that is a result of the air flowing over these surfaces. If there was no drag you could go very fast. But we do have drag and there are 2 types induced and parasite. Assume we are going really fast as NIST and the defendants claim, then we don't have to consider induced drag because induced drag is caused by lift and varies inversely as the square of the airspeed. What this means is the faster you go the lower the induced drag.

    What we do have to consider is parasite drag. Parasite drag is any drag produced that is not induced drag. Parasite drag is technically called 'form and friction' drag. It includes the air pushing against the entire airplane including the engines, as the engines try to push the entire airplane through the air.

    1. We have two other things to consider induced power and
      parasite power.

    Induced power varies inversely with velocity so we don't have to consider that because we are already going fast by assumption and it varies inversely.
    Parasite power however varies as the cube of the velocity which
    means to double the speed you have to cube or have three times the power.

    1. So taking these four factors into consideration we are only concerned with two parasite power and parasite drag, and if all other factors are constant, and you are level at 800 feet and making no turns, the parasite drag varies with the square of the velocity but parasite power varies as the cube of the velocity.

    What this means is at double the speed, drag doubles and the power required to maintain such speed, triples.

    The airspeed limitation for the Boeing 767 below approximately 23,000 feet is 360 kts or what they call VMO (velocity maximum operating).

    That means that the maximum permissible speed of the Boeing 767 below 23,000 feet is 360 knots and it is safe to operate the airplane at that speed but not faster.

    1. While the Boeing 767 can fly faster and has been flown faster during flight test it is only done so within carefully planned flight test programs. We can safely infer that most commercial 767 pilots have never exceeded 360 knots indicated air speed below 23,000 feet.

    2. The alleged NIST speed of 443 mph (385 kts,) for American Airlines Flight 11 would be technically achievable. However the NIST speed of 542 mph (470 kts) for United Airlines Flight 175 which is 50 kts. above VD is not commensurate with and/or possible considering

    (1) the power available,* **
    (2) parasite drag (NAVAIR 00-80T-80 Aerodynamics for Naval Aviators
    (3) parasite power (NAVAIR 00-80T-80 Aerodynamics for Naval Aviators
    (4) the controllability by a pilot with limited experience. 14 CFR Part 25.253 (a)(b )

    • http//www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/GenPDF.asp?...01MA063&rpt=fa
      ** http//www.content.airbusworld.com/S...PW4000_FAA.pdf
    1. Therefore the speed of the aircraft, that hit the World Trade Center, as represented by NIST, particularly that of United Airlines Flight 175 is fraudulent and could not have occurred.

    2. One more consideration is the impossibility of the PW4062 turbofan engines to operate in dense air at sea level altitude at high speed.

    The Boeing 767 was designed to fly at high altitudes at a maximum Mach of .86 or 86/100ths the speed of sound. This maximum speed is called MMO, (Maximum Mach Operating). Its normal cruise speed, however, is Mach .80 (about 530 mph) or less, for better fuel economy. (The speed of sound at 35,000 feet is 663 mph so 530 mph is Mach .7998 see

    http//www.grc.nasa.gov/WWW/K-12/airplane/sound.html.)

    The fan tip diameter of the PW4062 which powered UAL 175 was 94 inches, over 7 feet in diameter making it, essentially a huge propeller.
    This huge fan compresses enormous amount of air during takeoff to produce the thrust necessary to get the airplane off of the ground and into the air.
    At high altitudes, in cruise, where the air is much thinner and where the engines are designed to fly at most of the time, the fan and turbine sections are designed to efficiently accept enormous amounts of this thin air and produce an enormous amount of thrust.

    But at low altitudes, in much denser air, such as one thousand feet, where the air is over 3x as dense as at 35,000 feet, going much faster than Vmo or 360 knots, the air is going to start jamming up in the engine simply because a turbofan engine is not designed to take the enormous quantities of dense air at high speed, low altitude flight. Because of the much denser air the fan blades will be jammed with so much air they will start cavitating or choking causing the engines to start spitting air back out the front. The turbofan tip diameter is over 7 feet; it simply cannot accept that much dense air, at that rate, because they aren't designed to.

    So achieving an airspeed much over its Vmo which is 360 knots isn't going to be possible coupled with the fact that because the parasite drag increases as the square of the speed and the power

    required increases as the cube of the speed you are not going to be able to get the speed with the thrust (power) available.

    It can be argued that modern aerodynamic principles hold that if an aircraft can fly at 35,000 ft altitude at 540 mph (~Mach 0., and for a given speed, both engine thrust and airframe drag vary approximately in proportion to air density (altitude), that the engine can produce enough thrust to fly 540 mph at 800 ft. altitude.

    That argument fails because although the engine might be theoretically capable of producing that amount of thrust, the real question is can that amount of thrust be extracted from it at 540 mph at 800 ft.

    1. To propose that a Boeing 767 airliner exceeded its designed limit speed of 360 knots by 127 mph to fly through the air at 540 mph is simply not possible. It is not possible because of the thrust required and it's not possible because of the engine fan design which precludes accepting the amount of dense air being forced into it.

    2. I am informed that the lawsuit for which this affidavit is intended is in its preliminary, pre-discovery phase. I am further informed that actual eyewitness statements cast considerable doubt on the jetliner crash claims, irrespective of the media-driven impression that there were lots of witnesses. In fact, the witnesses tend, on balance, to confirm there were no jetliner crashes. I am also informed that information that will enable further refinement of the issues addressed in this affidavit will be forthcoming in discovery including, without limitation, the opportunity to take depositions and to request relevant documentation (additional information). When that additional information is obtained, I will then be in a position to offer such other and further opinions as, upon analysis, that additional information will mandate.

    3. At this stage, it cannot properly be assumed, much less asserted
      as factual, that wide-body jetliners crashed into the then Twin Towers of the WTC. Any declaration that such events occurred must be deemed false and fraudulently asserted, video images notwithstanding.

    General Issues / Questions

  • The meditative oneness (this is a GEM)
    M mike789

    I personally don't think it is anything but hallucinations that people get when they take drugs. Every drug affects the brain in a different manner. Some people may claim they understand the Quran better when they take cocaine. If ayahuasca or any other mind altering substance did anything positive towards understanding the Quran, God would have told us about it and not forbidden it.

    The straight path to God is not through something which He has prohibited. How ridiculous would it be if someone claims they get closer to God and understand Quran better when they are eating pork. The same goes for mind altering substances.

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  • Interest: The root cause of all major finanical problems
    M mike789

    Salamun alaikum.

    I buy 10 kilo of rice at point A for $10. Then I travel 100km and after reaching point B I sell the 10 kilo of rice at 10% profit for $11. Fair deal?

    Say with that $11, I again buy 10 kilo of rice and start travelling in hope of making another 10% profit after travelling further 100km. Makes sense?

    The circumference of earth is roughly 40,000 km. If I continue the above process I will be able to execute it 400+ times before I come back to my starting position. And at the destination the selling price of my 10 kilo rice would be = $10 x (1.1) ^ 400 = $360,640 Trillion.

    Thus I have proved any profit making is bound to result in economic collapse.

    Do you see the fallacy of your argument, now?

    Your example is irrational because you are ignoring some basic facts.
    When you travel some distance to sell your rice you need to keep in the mind the following

    1. You will need to pay for transportation of your goods including fuel costs
    2. You need to pay yourself or any workers you hire because they need to eat, drink, sleep and will need accommodation when not working
    3. You need to factor in supply and demand. What if no one wants your products.
    4. You need to factor in competition. What if there are other people selling the same thing and your product does not sell well.
      I can go on and on but you get the idea. Due to the above facts, you will spend whatever profit you will make back into the economy. If there is any leftover money after you pay all your expenses then you will continue to do it if not you will quit. But after sometime in this business, unless you have clear competitive advantage over the competition, you will not keep making profits and eventually you will be forced to quit if you keep incurring losses.

    If I compare your example to interest and how compound interest grows, I would be comparing apples with oranges.

    ?Riba = Interest? is one of the many misconceptions that we are carrying as a liability from the so called ?Islamic scholarship? who are stuck in the 8th-9th century in their thinking and reasoning. A critical review of the Qur?an and even Hadith literature does not support this idea. It is my pleasure to share with you thorough analysis of the subject matter based on early Islamic sources

    http//www.islamicperspectives.com/RibaIntro.htm

    Hope this is helpful.

    May Allah guide us all to the straight route.

    Regards,
    Arman

    P.S. In case you want to explore my understanding of Riba you are welcome to explore the following links

    http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9606569.msg350924#msg350924

    http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9606569.msg351778#msg351778

    http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605358.msg352195#msg352195

    None of the links you provided talks about interest from a mathematical perspective.

    I do not believe in any hadiths so it is irrelevant to me what the Sunnis or Shias says. As I explained in my original post, interest has a mathematical problem. It can not work mathematically over a long period of time from a macroeconomics perspective. It is paid by those who do not have money to those who do have money. It transfers wealth from those who work for money to those whose money works for them. And eventually it leads to a society where 1% of the population end up with all the wealth. The remaining vast majority become debt slaves of the interest collectors.

    If Gold was money or currency was backed by Gold, then the effects of this wealth transfer would be so obvious that everyone would notice. Only 1% of the population would collect all the Gold and everyone else would be in debt to them. But under the current fiat monetary system where money is backed by nothing, the effects of this wealth transfer are somewhat obscure. Because the banking system of every nation keeps increasing the money supply (print/create money) so the borrowers can go further in debt and keep paying interest. Since the year 2000, the US government has paid $5.8 Trillion in just interest on its national debt. The interest payments are growing at a rapid rate. At some point in future the US government must increase taxes on the population due to these enormous interest payments. Or it must devalue the currency; either way the majority of the population will be the losers, not the richest interest collectors. Aside from enormous government debts all over the world there are business debts and then personal debts. How many people lost not only their homes but also the initial down payment and all the payments that they had made on their homes over the years during the mortgage crisis in the US? People work hard for years and then when their debts grow too large they have no choice but to declare bankruptcy and lose everything they have worked for. They start all over again from scratch to repeat the same process meanwhile the richest 1% whose money works for them keep enjoying their ever increasing wealth.

    If you study the current interest based system from a macroeconomics point of view, you will conclude that it is an unsustainable system which only benefits the richest of the rich and will crash every few decades. But the richest interest collectors as a whole do not lose even if it crashes. They win either way as long as interest is legal.

    General Issues / Questions

  • Why isn't God responsible ?
    M mike789

    A teacher knows full well that some of his students will fail the final exam yet he still lets them take the exam along with those who will not fail.

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  • Interest: The root cause of all major finanical problems
    M mike789

    The money supply can, was and is growing exponentially...
    As it cost very little and now near zero to issue money.. (as most money now is in electronic form)

    Your example is quite misleading as there ain't no creditor willing to issue a loan with 100 years time frame and without any scheduled repayment.
    Nowadays, the financial industry is tightly governed by the government (i.e. the issuer of money in the first place) to avoid 'misuse' and 'fraud'.

    Debtor can always declare 'bankruptcy' is he/she/it cannot pay the loan. The interest stop and if the debtor asset cannot make up to the remaining value of the loan.. The creditor need to 'write off' the remaining the debt. This happened recently with the so-called 'Subprime mortgage crisis' in the US.
    And if the person is deceased, the interest stop and again if the asset cannot make up to the value of the remaining loan the creditor need to 'write off' the remaining debt.

    This practice greatly differ than the practice commonly performed in the 7th century middle east...
    There's no 'bankruptcy protection'.. If the person cannot pay up his/her debt, he (or his family member, wife, daughter, son) bound to be a slave to the creditor...

    My example was obviously to show how fast debt can grow with compound interest. It is obvious that in the real world the debtor can declare bankruptcy to get rid of his debts and start from zero again. Although it is very difficult of a country to declare bankruptcy. There are many of developing countries being crippled by debts owed to IMF and World bank.

    But did you read the entire thing? I proved that under the current interest based system, bankruptcies are inevitable. Some people must lose everything that they have worked for and start from zero again for this system to go on. Wealth of those who work for money is continuously transferred to those whose money works for them. Bankruptcies help keep the cycle going without affecting the wealth of the 1% and without making it obvious to the vast majority that they are being robbed. The richest 1% win either way under the current interest based system.

    You also said the government is issuer of all money. That is a common myth but not true. I think you did not click on the link that I posted originally. Read the article from Bank of England's website in which the central bank of the UK admits that almost all money is created by private banks when they issue loans.

    General Issues / Questions

  • Praying inside a mosque where they have Muhammad's name on the wall...
    M mike789

    Mike,
    what do you mean you are a new muslim? you mean you converted? or your beliefs suddenly changed?

    I was born into a Sunni family and practised Sunnism all my life until a month ago. All my family is Sunni except my wife who also became a true monotheist along with me. I questioned every aspect of my beliefs and a lot of it did not make sense. Specially the part that Muhammad did not know the future according to Quran. But, he has so many prophecies regarding Dajjal, Jesus, Mahdi etc in the hadiths.

    General Issues / Questions

  • Those who say Ameen is not Quran...
    M mike789

    Many people say Ameen is not Arabic then what is it doing in chapter 5 verse 2 ? If someone knows Arabic please respond.

    Questions/Comments on the Quran

  • Why is teaching the Quran mentioned before creation of humans?
    M mike789

    550 In the name of God, the Almighty, the Merciful.
    551 The Almighty.
    552 He has taught the Qur?an.
    553 He has created man.
    554 He taught him how to distinguish.

    Questions/Comments on the Quran

  • Does the time of death changes because of prayer and imploring God?
    M mike789

    Is the time of death predetermined or does it change if one implores God and ask for an extension?
    According to the 3145 it seems to be predetermined. However according to 37139-145 it seems to change if one implores God and asks for more time. What is your opinion? I am looking for answers based on Quran only, and not anything else outside of Quran. Thanks in advance for your input.

    3145 "It is not permitted for a person to die except by the permission
    of God in an appointed record. "

    37139 And Jonah was one of the messengers.
    37140 When he escaped to the charged ship.
    37141 And he was guilty, so he became among the losers.
    37142 Thus a whale swallowed him, and he was the one to blame.
    37143 And had it not been that he was one of those who implored,
    37144 He would have stayed in its belly until the Day of Resurrection.
    37145 So We threw him on the shore while he was sick.

    General Issues / Questions

  • The example of mosquito and...
    M mike789

    Peace everyone!
    I have been debating with a Sunni. When I said Quran explains itself, he brought some verses and claimed that without the hadith you can not explain the following verses.

    226 "God does not shy away from putting forth the example of a
    mosquito, or anything above it. As for those who believe, they
    know that it is the truth from their Lord. As for the rejecters,
    they say ?What does God intend with this example?? He strays
    many by it, and He guides many by it; but He only strays by it the
    wicked"

    He asks where in the Quran the example of a mosquito was mentioned which caused the pagans of Mecca to question God's such examples.

    And then the following verse
    1760 "And when We said to you ?Your Lord has encompassed the
    people.? And We did not make the vision that We showed you
    except as a test for the people, and the tree that was cursed in the
    Qur?an. And We are making them fearful, but it only increases
    their transgression. "

    He says which tree was cursed in the Quran and was a test? And which vision was it?

    Questions/Comments on the Quran
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