A high iq yes. Well if YOU have some high IQ, does it matter on a forum who says who they are? It really doesn?t does it. Could actually be the siberian shaman, that the christians believe is a saint and called "st claus", typing behind the keyboard. Who is an idolater, and would tell you that there is a foot above sinai, which he saw on LSD, and you would believe it, and go on a rebellious rampage, proud of your new god, after all, deviant people WANT idolatry. So a gift under the pinetree where psychedelic mushrooms grow, could be your new idol, for your own personal pride, and delusion.

Prostitution was also part of what "santa" established, in his idolaterous temples. Temple whores, that was how it was in the olden day. I am sure the deviant miss them ol times.

Ofcourse in Islam, and the society that was established by Abraham, to the praises of God, by all intelligent people, above the level of dogs, promiscuity is bad, and in The Quran, Satan follows his desire (lust).

That you think sodom and gomorra, are the allergorical verses, is simply ridicolous. God is in everyone, everyone in mental anguish prays to God, the suffering gays, and those they oppress, and provoke with their offensive behaviour. And their society was destroyed. And little is left of pharaoes society today, or other idolaters societies, such as communism.

It really shouldn?t be too hard. One really needs to just do what is right. Mad lustcultivators cannot go among monotheist children. You are not really grown-up if you cannot appreciate the death-penality on gays. Or herion-dealers for that sake, or similar things.

Also as I said elsewhere, idolaters fear the beast. They do not have god. And the bigger beast is deathpenality, and the best you can ever give them, to correct their behaviour, and ultimately live a decent life according to the praises of God, or suffer with gay/drugs etc, and be dead.

I have visited the forum many times, and indeed many of the same people post, and they do react to sense as usual. Proud.
And indeed I see the free-minds sect, as it is becoming, has a view on things, that is not quranic. Still claiming alcohol "is not forbidden", and excusing homophilia etc. So free-minds, seem to indeed be like a scholar, a viewpoint, that identifies certain people, and the forum does indeed ban others. No free-minds, and correct minds are not allowed. Gay and drugged minds, perhaps? And closed minds, to Islam.

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Note that it was God who punished in the example you gave, not humans.

And in your last sentence you said "feel". That is very different from "as per Quran". Further, the law of equivalence is very clear in Quran. To do as you propose would violate it.

The two are not mutually exclusive. Feel free to read and explore the forum and make up your own mind.

Actually "feel" is not different than pr. Quran. Please check verse 30;30 and many verses that deal with immanence. You "law of equivalence" is ambigouous. Indeed God speaks of priveledging someone over others, even in the prayer!

And my mind is made up, first by simply adhering to Gods word, and later also understanding why homophilia is wrong, simply by looking at their culture. And indeed that their cities are destroyed is no mystery.

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Theoretically you don?t need books to believe in God. However knowing idolaters, who distort religion and lead people off the path, having a good book as The Quran, is really a blessing from God.

As for Bigmos "Koran is no better guidance", this is completely wrong. The Quran says that the earlier books have been distorted. And that is obvious.

Some idolaterous art http//paradoxuncreated.com/Blog/wordpress/?p=8465

Some idolaterous art, is subconscious symbolism. Some dont even know they worship it, and it controls them.

So religion is not only wisdom, but clearly defined godconsciousness, that protects against such constructs.

And then you need ofcourse a precise book, that does not contain such symbolism itself.

But theoretically yes, one can believe in God. But also what happened at Mecca when the Quran arrived? Idolaterous symbolism defeated, and most became muslim. Unfortunately only to distort their religion again later, and idol-worship of "mohammed and partners" in hadith. Which is typical for all religion, to get distorted. However we still have The Quran.

And God is one, and without partners. And God controls everything between the heavens and the earth.

God, The beneficient, most merciful.

Peace Be With You.

"Homosexuality can not be punished as its nobody's concern."

This is even worse than Farouk A Peru.

Ofcourse if we have people in our society, that obsesses with sex on public toilets, to the offense of normal people. you know they do not understand a decent society, and cannot go around your children.

That is my final word in that.

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Which projects are that Wakas? Did you read the link?

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Ok.

Some comments from me. Sodom and Gomorrah was destroyed. Understanding satanic mindset a bit, they worship idols, and the bigger idol, is ofcourse the most powerful. That means they are run by their fears. The biggest fear would ofcourse be death-penality. God DESTROYED Sodom and Gomorrah. Isn?t that a "stipulation" of punishment enough? If gays hear God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah, is not God the bigger beast and who runs them? And so to their own good ofcourse.

So that is how I feel about it, and why there should be death-penality for homophilia.

I think also the reply there on alcohol is a bit odd. Godconsciousness protects against satan. Alcohol removes one from godconsciousness. Alcohol is ofcourse forbidden.

Criminality in general, transgression/sin, is not a too wide subject, and can generally be answered.

So you say no "scholar" is promoted here, but yet present a uniform answer for "most people here". Who wrote these things? Should we say "the free-minds scholars"?

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Yes, Farouk seem to be playing for the audience, who is laughing, and it does not resemble any real believers gathering. Personally I think the verses are clear enough.

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In other words, you support homophilia?

I expanded on the topic in this thread, please go there instead. http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605033.msg321044#msg321044

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If anyone has any central/important teachings, in addition to refute, please post in this thread.

http//paradoxuncreated.com/Blog/wordpress/?p=16

Peace Be With you.

Anyone did much research on the meaning of the word rabb, and found good contemporary equivalents?

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What is your stand on these core values in Islam

1. Promiscuity
2. Homophilia
3. Intoxicants
4. Criminality

And also
5) 19
6) Hadith

And is there any particular scholar you associate with your choices?

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How many here support Quranists led by Farouk A Peru, and do you agree with his view on Homophilia?

http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwkIoETBwxQ&list=PLLJbENTfuMiixmSgzX7XNQ3tSbRtaaOkM&index=1

Peace Be With You

Peace Be With You.

I invite you all to read my blog-post, Pharaos Society.

http//paradoxuncreated.com/Blog/wordpress/?p=8432

It should clear up any misconception on these things.

Peace Be With You.