Peace Noon

Thank you for your explanation. It makes it very clear.

Stay blessed.

Peace Brother Noon

يُوصِيكُمُ ٱللَّهُ فِىٓ أَوۡلَـٰدِڪُمۡ‌ۖ لِلذَّكَرِ مِثۡلُ حَظِّ ٱلۡأُنثَيَيۡنِ‌ۚ فَإِن كُنَّ نِسَآءً۬ فَوۡقَ ٱثۡنَتَيۡنِ فَلَهُنَّ ثُلُثَا مَا تَرَكَ‌ۖ وَإِن كَانَتۡ وَٲحِدَةً۬ فَلَهَا ٱلنِّصۡفُ‌ۚ وَلِأَبَوَيۡهِ لِكُلِّ وَٲحِدٍ۬ مِّنۡہُمَا ٱلسُّدُسُ مِمَّا تَرَكَ إِن كَانَ لَهُ ۥ وَلَدٌ۬‌ۚ فَإِن لَّمۡ يَكُن لَّهُ ۥ وَلَدٌ۬ وَوَرِثَهُ ۥۤ أَبَوَاهُ فَلِأُمِّهِ ٱلثُّلُثُ‌ۚ فَإِن كَانَ لَهُ ۥۤ إِخۡوَةٌ۬ فَلِأُمِّهِ ٱلسُّدُسُ‌ۚ مِنۢ بَعۡدِ وَصِيَّةٍ۬ يُوصِى بِہَآ أَوۡ دَيۡنٍ‌ۗ ءَابَآؤُكُمۡ وَأَبۡنَآؤُكُمۡ لَا تَدۡرُونَ أَيُّهُمۡ أَقۡرَبُ لَكُمۡ نَفۡعً۬ا‌ۚ فَرِيضَةً۬ مِّنَ ٱللَّهِ‌ۗ إِنَّ ٱللَّهَ كَانَ عَلِيمًا حَكِيمً۬ا (١١)]

Why "MA" and "MIMMA" are used in 411

Please help understanding it.

Thank you

Peace Novice

Thank you, good I'm not alone perhaps you can teach others.
I've uploaded an updated version with a more clearer format.

https//www.academia.edu/39919602/Quran_Inheritance

Peace Brother Noon

Thanks for the link. I have been raising the questions as per your article and found a lots of interest in people who want to learn the truth. Stay blessed.

Jazak Allah Brother Noon

I have been through this thread many times. I have studied your paper. Now when I reflect on the inheritance ayats in their original language without polluted tafseers everything fits perfectly. Great work. Stay blessed.

Peace Novice.
You say,quote

"262 is talking about those who believed before the Quran and died away so their reward is with Allah as per their belief and their actions.
As far as those who were present at the time of the Prophet Muhammad and were conveyed the Quran they were supposed to accept it. If they did not have iman the way the Prophet Muhammad and his companions had then they were not guided as per 2136-137"

Considering the Jewish ,the Christians and the Sabians were mentioned in 262, who are "Alladina Aamanu" in that same verse? They believed in what before?
2136-137 includes all the messengers. It just means all messengers come with the same message"Submission to GOD and to follow His message".and we are to believe the message from GOD.
i.e Muslim to GOD exist with all the messengers regardless of sects and man made religions.
GOD bless you.
Peace.

262 is in the context of bani Israeel. When the Quran was revealed they were supposed to have imaan in it as per 2137
فَإِنۡ ءَامَنُواْ بِمِثۡلِ مَآ ءَامَنتُم بِهِۦ فَقَدِ ٱهۡتَدَواْ‌ۖ وَّإِن تَوَلَّوۡاْ فَإِنَّمَا هُمۡ فِى شِقَاقٍ۬‌ۖ فَسَيَكۡفِيڪَهُمُ ٱللَّهُ‌ۚ وَهُوَ ٱلسَّمِيعُ ٱلۡعَلِيمُ

Peace Novice.
You say,quote

"262 is talking about those who believed before the Quran and died away so their reward is with Allah as per their belief and their actions.
As far as those who were present at the time of the Prophet Muhammad and were conveyed the Quran they were supposed to accept it. If they did not have iman the way the Prophet Muhammad and his companions had then they were not guided as per 2136-137"

Considering the Jewish ,the Christians and the Sabians were mentioned in 262, who are "Alladina Aamanu" in that same verse? They believed in what before?
2136-137 includes all the messengers. It just means all messengers come with the same message"Submission to GOD and to follow His message".and we are to believe the message from GOD.
i.e Muslim to GOD exist with all the messengers regardless of sects and man made religions.
GOD bless you.
Peace.

Peace good logic

Please see 4136
Who are "Alladina Aamanu" and what they are commanded to do?

يَـٰٓأَيُّہَا ٱلَّذِينَ ءَامَنُوٓاْ ءَامِنُواْ بِٱللَّهِ وَرَسُولِهِۦ وَٱلۡكِتَـٰبِ ٱلَّذِى نَزَّلَ عَلَىٰ رَسُولِهِۦ وَٱلۡڪِتَـٰبِ ٱلَّذِىٓ أَنزَلَ مِن قَبۡلُ‌ۚ وَمَن يَكۡفُرۡ بِٱللَّهِ وَمَلَـٰٓٮِٕكَتِهِۦ وَكُتُبِهِۦ وَرُسُلِهِۦ وَٱلۡيَوۡمِ ٱلۡأَخِرِ فَقَدۡ ضَلَّ ضَلَـٰلاَۢ بَعِيدًا (١٣٦)

O you who have believed, believe in Allah and His Messenger and the Book that He sent down upon His Messenger and the Scripture which He sent down before. And whoever disbelieves in Allah, His angels, His books, His messengers, and the Last Day has certainly gone far astray.

— Saheeh International

262 is talking about those who believed before the Quran and died away so their reward is with Allah as per their belief and their actions.

As far as those who were present at the time of the Prophet Muhammad and were conveyed the Quran they were supposed to accept it. If they did not have iman the way the Prophet Muhammad and his companions had then they were not guided as per 2136-137

قُولُوٓاْ ءَامَنَّا بِٱللَّهِ وَمَآ أُنزِلَ إِلَيۡنَا وَمَآ أُنزِلَ إِلَىٰٓ إِبۡرَٲهِـۧمَ وَإِسۡمَـٰعِيلَ وَإِسۡحَـٰقَ وَيَعۡقُوبَ وَٱلۡأَسۡبَاطِ وَمَآ أُوتِىَ مُوسَىٰ وَعِيسَىٰ وَمَآ أُوتِىَ ٱلنَّبِيُّونَ مِن رَّبِّهِمۡ لَا نُفَرِّقُ بَيۡنَ أَحَدٍ۬ مِّنۡهُمۡ وَنَحۡنُ لَهُ ۥ مُسۡلِمُونَ (١٣٦) فَإِنۡ ءَامَنُواْ بِمِثۡلِ مَآ ءَامَنتُم بِهِۦ فَقَدِ ٱهۡتَدَواْ‌ۖ وَّإِن تَوَلَّوۡاْ فَإِنَّمَا هُمۡ فِى شِقَاقٍ۬‌ۖ فَسَيَكۡفِيڪَهُمُ ٱللَّهُ‌ۚ وَهُوَ ٱلسَّمِيعُ ٱلۡعَلِيمُ (١٣٧)

Say, ˹O believers,˺ “We believe in Allah and what has been revealed to us; and what was revealed to Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob, and his descendants; and what was given to Moses, Jesus, and other prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them. And to Allah we all submit.”

So if they believe in what you believe, then they will indeed be ˹rightly˺ guided. But if they turn away, they are simply opposed ˹to the truth˺. But Allah will spare you their evil. For He is the All-Hearing, All-Knowing.

Verse 262 refers to people of the Book before Muhammad.

"Indeed, those who believed and those who were Jews or Christians or Sabeans - those who believed in Allah and the Last Day and did righteousness - will have their reward with their Lord, and no fear will there be concerning them, nor will they grieve."

Peace brother hawk99

She is referring to 3133

وَسَارِعُوٓاْ إِلَىٰ مَغۡفِرَةٍ۬ مِّن رَّبِّڪُمۡ وَجَنَّةٍ عَرۡضُهَا ٱلسَّمَـٰوَٲتُ وَٱلۡأَرۡضُ أُعِدَّتۡ لِلۡمُتَّقِينَ

How can we have a choice before our creation and before we have the ability to exercise it?

Both are true.

Two contradictory statements cannot be true at the same time.

The two verses I quoted are clear. You can not perform an action unless it's willed by God.

You can perform an action with your free choice but the results are not as per your wish. They are either as per Allah's Law or in certain cases as per His "Mashe'at".

You can not decide to be guided.

You can decide to be guided but guidance comes from Allah. He guides those who seek it with sincerity.

You have a project, you want to succeed. It is God who decides the final result the success or failure of your project.

You see first you decide to succeed in a project. It is your choice but results are either as per Allah's Law or His Mashe'at in certain cases.

The circumstances of life do not unfold as one wishes, it is the will of God. When misfortune strikes, it is also the will of God.

515 O people of the Book, Our messenger has come to you to clarify for you much of what you were hiding from the Book, and to pardon over much. A light has come to you from God and a clarifying Book.

516 God guides with it whoever follows His acceptance, to the ways of peace; and it brings them out of the darkness and into the light with His permission; and it guides them to a straight path.

Yes the words of Allah are true. He guides those who wants to be guided.

Please avoid any assumptions about my beliefs, this is not the purpose of this thread.
Everyone is free to act or believe.

You are contradicting yourself.

First you said divine will predates the personal will

and now you are saying

everyone is free to act or believe.

Which statement is true?

So you believe that humans will be punished for their divinely willed wrong actions.

Please re-think.

Salam,
رجما بالغیب is interesting.

Peace

Yes it is interpreted as making conjectures in this verse but at other places they make it star missiles thrown on devils. Agree it is interesting.

In my humble understanding these ayats are telling that after God's revelation, conjectures or superstitions have no room in a believer's life. Fortune tellers and star readers are just guessing and have no knowledge of future.

Peace

Please back up your points with quotes...

No, If humans are intrinsically good then there was no need of guidance through messengers and books.

228
قُلۡنَا ٱهۡبِطُواْ مِنۡہَا جَمِيعً۬ا‌ۖ فَإِمَّا يَأۡتِيَنَّكُم مِّنِّى هُدً۬ى فَمَن تَبِعَ هُدَاىَ فَلَا خَوۡفٌ عَلَيۡہِمۡ وَلَا هُمۡ يَحۡزَنُونَ

We said fall out of it all together, so when my guidance comes to you then whoever follows my guidance will have no fear on them and not they will grieve.

Salam Novice,

You are correct, the verse does speak to both Jinn and Humans. I can't conclude why they are both lumped together and whether the copper is meant for one and the fire for the other...The only observation to be made is that "copper" is a great conductor of energy and this is the only time we see it mentioned (all other verses deal with metal in a general form).

Salam Layth

May be the root ن ح س nūn ḥā sīn can give us some understanding. I am sorry but copper theory does not appeal to me as this root is used at two more places and does not convey the meanings of copper therein.

4116 فَأَرۡسَلۡنَا عَلَيۡہِمۡ رِيحً۬ا صَرۡصَرً۬ا فِىٓ أَيَّامٍ۬ نَّحِسَاتٍ۬ لِّنُذِيقَهُمۡ عَذَابَ ٱلۡخِزۡىِ فِى ٱلۡحَيَوٰةِ ٱلدُّنۡيَا‌ۖ وَلَعَذَابُ ٱلۡأَخِرَةِ أَخۡزَىٰ‌ۖ وَهُمۡ لَا يُنصَرُونَ

5419 إِنَّآ أَرۡسَلۡنَا عَلَيۡہِمۡ رِيحً۬ا صَرۡصَرً۬ا فِى يَوۡمِ نَحۡسٍ۬ مُّسۡتَمِرٍّ۬

Salam Novice,

Energy has a limit/form (when a lighting bolt strikes, it has a shape/form that can dissipate).

If we think of Jinn as energy being, and we consider that copper is a conductor for electricity - then it makes sense that they be struck with a material which can disrupt their path/flow.

Why else would the Quran speak specifically of copper and fiery projectors striking down those that try to take flight.

Salaam Layth

Thank you for your reply. I assume you are referring to 5533-35 as the word copper نُحَاسٌ۬ is used only once in the Quran

يَـٰمَعۡشَرَ ٱلۡجِنِّ وَٱلۡإِنسِ إِنِ ٱسۡتَطَعۡتُمۡ أَن تَنفُذُواْ مِنۡ أَقۡطَارِ ٱلسَّمَـٰوَٲتِ وَٱلۡأَرۡضِ فَٱنفُذُواْ‌ۚ لَا تَنفُذُونَ إِلَّا بِسُلۡطَـٰنٍ۬ (٣٣) فَبِأَىِّ ءَالَآءِ رَبِّكُمَا تُكَذِّبَانِ (٣٤) يُرۡسَلُ عَلَيۡكُمَا شُوَاظٌ۬ مِّن نَّارٍ۬ وَنُحَاسٌ۬ فَلَا تَنتَصِرَانِ

We see here address is to both Ins and Jinn. So what is the rational of striking Ins (human) with copper in your understanding?

Peace Novice, all

What do you think of Muhammad Asad's Translation of 675?

And, indeed, We have adorned the skies nearest to the
earth with lights, and have made them the object of futile
guesses for the evil ones and for them have We readied
suffering through a blazing flame –

peace

Salaam hawk99

Thank you for the reference. That is what I was saying in my posts. Muhammad Asad was a sensible person.

The peculiar information about Comets is that His Majesty has rendered them رُجُومٙا stemming from Root ر ج م which signifies the throwing, or casting, of stones. Today we know about Meteoroid A small rocky or metal object, usually between the size of a grain of sand or a boulder, that orbits the sun; and Meteor A meteoroid that enters the earth’s atmosphere and vaporizes. Also called a “shooting star.”. It originates from a comet or asteroid. And we know Meteor shower A collection of meteors visible when earth passes through a trail of debris left by a comet.

What about usage of root ر ج م at 1822?

........سَيَقُولُونَ ثَلَـٰثَةٌ۬ رَّابِعُهُمۡ كَلۡبُهُمۡ وَيَقُولُونَ خَمۡسَةٌ۬ سَادِسُہُمۡ كَلۡبُہُمۡ رَجۡمَۢا بِٱلۡغَيۡبِ‌ۖ

Have you read the usage of this root in following link?

http//drvaniya.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/Q59-Saba-aayah-53.pdf