Salaam Good Logic
You have said that the Salat,Zakat, Sawm...etc are a not the priority of the "deen". You are 100% wrong. A Muslim is supposed to follow the Qur'aan and in the Qur'aan Salaat, Zakaat Saum are required as part of our Deen. We are not supposed to be here picking and choosing what we think is important or not. We are supposed to follow the Qur'aan without distorting the teachings of the Qur'aan. What type of Muslims are over here???? It is our responsiblity to make sure that we observe Salaat, Zakaat, Saum, etc. etc. correctly as Allah has revealed it in the Qur'aan. You are just trying to leave loope holes for you to follow that distorted form of Salaat created by Freeminds or Monotheist Group. We are not supposed to follow your Hislam, we are supposed to follow Allah's prescribed Way Of Life which has been revealed in the Qur'aan.
Peace SniperX..
The efficient debate should be the evidence of the content of the argument presented. People then can wrestle with what is presented as "evidence" and present their own counter if they disagree.
One should present their view with their evidence for people to accept or criticise and leave it at that.
We have the same messenger in Qoran
O people of the scripture, our messenger has come to you to proclaim for you many things you have concealed in the scripture, and to pardon many other transgressions you have committed. A beacon has come to you from God, and a profound scripture.
يٰأَهلَ الكِتٰبِ قَد جاءَكُم رَسولُنا يُبَيِّنُ لَكُم كَثيرًا مِمّا كُنتُم تُخفونَ مِنَ الكِتٰبِ وَيَعفوا عَن كَثيرٍ قَد جاءَكُم مِنَ اللَّهِ نورٌ وَكِتٰبٌ مُبينٌ
With it, God guides those who seek His approval. He guides them to the paths of peace, leads them out of darkness into the light by His leave, and guides them in a straight path.
يَهدى بِهِ اللَّهُ مَنِ اتَّبَعَ رِضوٰنَهُ سُبُلَ السَّلٰمِ وَيُخرِجُهُم مِنَ الظُّلُمٰتِ إِلَى النّورِ بِإِذنِهِ وَيَهديهِم إِلىٰ صِرٰطٍ مُستَقيمٍ
The profound scripture Qoran is here as a messenger for all of us. All past or future messengers since Qoran will only provide this same message ; To follow only GOD Alone and His guidance.
Have w got the right priorities really? GOD does the guiding of the sincere not us!
Salat,Zakat, Sawm...etc are a not the priority of the "deen", they may be useful help ,but the main point is our total submission to GOD Alone and our intentions, behaviour -i.e The straight path-.
There is no other right religion that we are led to believe will save us . It is pointless doing salat, zakat ,sawm ..etc if we do not "straighten up- and follow GOD s path of justice, fairness, ...and kill our "ego/arrogance " by acknowledging that GOD Alone is the sole authority/power and Lord of everything. Strive to LOVE GOD AND LOVE EACH OTHER.
Like this, clear in Qoran
The only religion approved by God is "Submission to GOD s system /rule." Ironically, those who have received the scripture are the ones who dispute this fact, despite the knowledge they have received, due to jealousy. For such rejectors of God's revelations, God is most strict in reckoning.
إِنَّ الدّينَ عِندَ اللَّهِ الإِسلٰمُ وَمَا اختَلَفَ الَّذينَ أوتُوا الكِتٰبَ إِلّا مِن بَعدِ ما جاءَهُمُ العِلمُ بَغيًا بَينَهُم وَمَن يَكفُر بِـٔايٰتِ اللَّهِ فَإِنَّ اللَّهَ سَريعُ الحِسابِ
If they argue with you, then say, "I have simply submitted myself to God; I and those who follow me." You shall proclaim to those who received the scripture, as well as those who did not, "Would you submit?" If they submit, then they have been guided, but if they turn away, your sole mission is to deliver this message. God is Seer of all people.
فَإِن حاجّوكَ فَقُل أَسلَمتُ وَجهِىَ لِلَّهِ وَمَنِ اتَّبَعَنِ وَقُل لِلَّذينَ أوتُوا الكِتٰبَ وَالأُمِّيّـۧنَ ءَأَسلَمتُم فَإِن أَسلَموا فَقَدِ اهتَدَوا وَإِن تَوَلَّوا فَإِنَّما عَلَيكَ البَلٰغُ وَاللَّهُ بَصيرٌ بِالعِبادِ
Those who have rejected God's revelations, and killed the prophets unjustly, and killed those who advocated justice among the people, promise them a painful retribution.
إِنَّ الَّذينَ يَكفُرونَ بِـٔايٰتِ اللَّهِ وَيَقتُلونَ النَّبِيّـۧنَ بِغَيرِ حَقٍّ وَيَقتُلونَ الَّذينَ يَأمُرونَ بِالقِسطِ مِنَ النّاسِ فَبَشِّرهُم بِعَذابٍ أَليمٍ
We may well argue about irrelevant details of Salat, Zakat, Sawm etc , but the main guiding factor and only authority is GOD Alone. Only by our sincere intentions and good conduct will we really strive for the good of ourselves and others.
GOD does not want hypocrisy and rigid rules. GOD wants good people who strive to make themselves and others better .Peaceful, just, curious about good knowledge and caring .
Or are we to go the way religions have gone and insist on our rigid ways and false sectarianism?
"And do not believe except as those who follow your religion." Say, "The true guidance is God's guidance." If they claim that they have the same guidance, or argue with you about your Lord, say, "All grace is in God's hand; He bestows it upon whomever He wills." God is Bounteous, Omniscient.
وَلا تُؤمِنوا إِلّا لِمَن تَبِعَ دينَكُم قُل إِنَّ الهُدىٰ هُدَى اللَّهِ أَن يُؤتىٰ أَحَدٌ مِثلَ ما أوتيتُم أَو يُحاجّوكُم عِندَ رَبِّكُم قُل إِنَّ الفَضلَ بِيَدِ اللَّهِ يُؤتيهِ مَن يَشاءُ وَاللَّهُ وٰسِعٌ عَليمٌ
He specifies His mercy for whomever He wills; God possesses unlimited grace.
يَختَصُّ بِرَحمَتِهِ مَن يَشاءُ وَاللَّهُ ذُو الفَضلِ العَظيمِ
However you are entitled to your way.
May the Lord guide us to His truth and make us better humans.
GOD bless you.
Peace.