General Issues / Questions

Here's logical take down of hadith. https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVCZ4FjYL0g I think the chapter/verse (technical) approach doesn't work well with most people as they haven't read the Quran (or Hadith).

I said; According to the verses; 1- Spirit is revelation, 2- holy spirit (the angel messenger conveying the message, revelation angel) 3- and revelation book (Quran). Spirit= revelation. Let's give examples. 1- Revelation "So when I perfect him, and blow of My Spirit in him, you shall fall prostrate to him." 2- Revelation Angel (Cebrail). Thus, she kept herself in seclusion from people. Then We sent to her Our spirit, and it appeared before her in the form of a perfect man. 3- Revelation Book (Quran) 4252 And thus We have revealed to you an inspiration of Our command. You did not know what is the Book or faith, but We have made it a light by which We guide whom We will of Our servants. And indeed, , you guide to a straight path - spirit = revelation. And basic verses in our body like Adam 3030So direct your face toward the religion, inclining to truth. the fitrah of Allah upon which He has created people. No change should there be in the creation of Allah . That is the correct religion, but most of the people do not know. We are obliged to direct the truth through the verses inside. Peace We saw spirit = revelation. There are also the concepts of can/life and nefs mentioned in the verses. Life is like electrical energy, and it is again a material. The nafs is the psychobiological characteristic of that person, which is revealed by the combination of body and life. Regards

Peace, What happened in the Holy Land was also a peaceful process, until the Children of Israel were barred from entering a land which God had given them licence to settle (i.e. you can treat it as reclaiming occupied land under the Quran's laws of warfare. If you look at 522, you will note that the Children of Israel describe the inhabitants of the Holy Land as "Jabareen". This word denotes force and aggression (from "JBR" which is "to force&quot. The attribute is always used negatively in the Quran when applied to people. This is why the conversation in 523 turns to the two wise men suggesting that they enter by storming the gates.

This site I mentioned below has all the hadith Sahih Bukhari, Sahih Muslim, Tirmidhi, Abu Da'ud. Quran translations, mobile app for Quran and hadith http//www.alim.org/

talking about it, heavy discussion, and correct understanding helps. but only with sheer will power can one overcome lust / temptation. its a choice one makes. That is it, will, if one is not fully committed, anything will erase borderlines. In fact we want the cake and eat it. It is a matter of accepting that there is no such a thing as having the cake and eating it, and behaving accordingly. Like with most things, we have to shun the worst temptation with is lying to ourselves. Salaam

Thanks Faith for your reply. But if you read the Quran it seems like it starts the chain of prophecy from Prophet Noah. There are many verses in the Quran which support it. That was the reason i asked this question.

Your knowledge is growing, Cerberus and positively affects your development. Congratulations. Discover God is not beyond your self and you have let go of the Pagan god delusion too, and belittling yourself and your ability is only hurting yourself. Believe that you can instead and have faith. Keep on the right track. Thumbs up. Be well Qarael Amenuel Thank you my friend, thank you for your help.

Thanks all for this discussion! Are there any verses that state how men and women should dress during prayer? I don't see in the ayat about wudu that women need to cover everything when they pray? Any logic to this? Quran provides the answer, see http//misconceptions-about-islam.com/dress-code-women-veil.htm And tell the believing women to lower their gaze and guard their private parts, and that they should not reveal their beauty except what is apparent of it... In other words, women can reveal what is ordinarily apparent/visible, and what that is is discussed in the link above. So same goes for during the regular/timed salat of the mumineen.

There probably used to be nothing, but we weren't there.

Peace HP_TECH You say,quote A believer is simply one who claims to have faith and submits (aslam). You know this contradicts most of your posts that you think are good replies to what is "Mumin" ,why? Because claiming to have faith is what ? Then you will have the problem of which members of all the religions that exist are submitting? Your definition of righteous is a misconception!!! Look again in your Qoran. You will be surprised to find ,and I am going to give one example,then leave you pondering at the same rate as you expect me to ponder or even more. Here we go( You have shown you are good at finding verses numbers,it also helps the pondering) Qoran "...Wa Ani Uubuduni ,Hada Siratun Mustaqueem". So "Uubudu Allah" is the Sirat Al Mustaqueem. Now what is Al-Sirat Al Mustaqueem? Other verses( I will list them underneath one by one) "...GOD possesses the most powerful argument,if He willed He could guide you all" "Say, "Come let me tell you what your Lord has really prohibited for you You shall not set up idols besides Him. You shall honor your parents. You shall not kill your children from fear of poverty - we provide for you and for them. You shall not commit gross sins, obvious or hidden. You shall not kill - God has made life sacred - except in the course of justice. These are His commandments to you, that you may understand." "You shall not touch the orphans' money except in the most righteous manner, until they reach maturity. You shall give full weight and full measure when you trade, equitably. We do not burden any soul beyond its means. You shall be absolutely just when you bear witness, even against your relatives. You shall fulfill your covenant with God. These are His commandments to you, that you may take heed". Now comes what the verses I quoted define for you "This is My path - a straight one. You shall follow it, and do not follow any other paths, lest they divert you from His path. These are His commandments to you, that you may be saved". Yes brother"...Wa anna hada Sirati Mustaqueeman, Fa Attabihuhu.." And you will be saved. GOD did not forget to add other things here or list any rituals or any other commandments that entail the minimum to be saved. You keep saying let us not say what Qoran does not say. So I agree. What you argue in your post is a confusion and a misunderstanding of the whole context of what GOD is really saying to "Al Naas". Remember Qoran is for "Al Aalameen" not just those who monopolise it and call everyone else "Kafir". Repent brother and save yourself first.. I do the same same ,others including each one of my family do the same. GOD judges His deen,not you.me or anyone else. I will go slow and stop here to allow both of us to ponder more. GOD bless you. Peace.

Peace Hansolo He brought the Quran and that proves him a messenger. Rest are all useless fairy tales and make no difference, at least for me.

Peace Tech, I forgot to mention, if you meet a women who meet all the qualifications, as well as the man, and all the factors are aligned. Then this is a command from God to marry that individual? Therefore, would you say if you do not marry, it is a sin? I think there are two ways in which people interpret this command for elders in the community to organize/arrange marriage for the single in the communities and organize/arrange marriages between righteous servants for believers in general to marry the single in the communities and EVEN the righteous among their servants whether male or female. Meaning a daughter could be given to a male servant if he was of the righteous and a son could marry a female servant if she was of the righteous. Traditionalist tend to push the first one and hence have culturalized the idea of arranging marriages for their children However I feel the second is the purpose for this ayaah to break the discrimination of status in regards to marriage and to encourage believers to prioritize marrying the al-ayama in the communities. To answer your question I don't feel that marriage is an absolute obligation. And it is also not feasible for everyone to be able to find a suitable partner (believing, righteous etcc.), especially in this day in age. Therefore, we cannot expect it to be a compulsory command. However, one should seek companionship if it is feasible, because the alternative is an invention and that I believe is a sin 5727 Then We sent on their footsteps Our Messengers and We followed with Isa, son (of) Maryam, and We gave him the Injeel. And We placed in (the) hearts (of) those who followed him compassion and mercy. But monasticism they innovated - not We prescribed it for them - only seeking (the) pleasure (of) Allah, but not they observed it (with) right observance. So We gave those who believed among them their reward, but most of them (are) defiantly disobediently.

Don't worry about some of the comments they are just playing semantics. peace I noticed! Thank you for the support, I was starting to feel quite violent! voodoo I felt like I needed the Free-Minds Forum version of the Oxford English Dictionary, as my copy was rendered Gobbledy Goop! jedi

Peace Wakas, Unanswered points 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 I noted these points. They are mainly observations on the wording of the article. article does not mention that immediately after in 984 it continues "AND not became divided those who were given the book (singular) until after..." so, if multiple alleged books, why does it use the singular and which singular book is this referring to? It is not the article that is claiming that the Qur'an is a 'collection of books', but the Qur'an itself which says ?A messenger from God reciting purified scripts. In them are valuable books. (Qur?an 982-3) Al-Kitaab can refer to any manuscript which is 'written' (regardless of its content/length) "And there is no sin upon you if you openly propose marriage to the women, or you keep it between yourselves. God knows that you will be thinking about them, but do not meet them secretly, unless you have something righteous to say. And do not finalize the marriage contract until the interim in the book is reached. And know that God knows what is in your souls, so be aware of Him, and know that God is Forgiving, Compassionate." (2235) Also, I would point out that God calls "the best narrative" as "a book that is comparable/mutashabih" (so the term Muhkam book and Mutashabig book is possible) "God has sent down the best narrative, a Book that is comparable, but dual. The skins of those who are concerned towards their Lord shiver from it, then their skins and their hearts soften up to the remembrance of God. Such is the guidance of God; He guides with it whoever He wills. And for whoever God misguides, then none can guide him.(3923) Going back to your point on 984, "which Book" is this referring to that the people became divided after receiving it? (most likely, these are the recipients of the Book of the righteous as they are described further in 985). I simply used "firm" because that is what the article used. You now seem to suggest "sealed" as a meaning despite it not being mentioned in the article, and that would imply mutashabih as "unsealed". Seems odd to me. If the English is causing a problem, then use 'Muhkam' when referring to the verse to visualize its meaning. It could be that 'firm' is giving the wrong connotation if you or others are still reading it as 'clear vs ambiguous'. I will look into better English renditions for this. Regards,

I take it as a cultural practice. Why to make it an issue with your old parents. If they wish so then no harm in fulfilling their wish. Just my thought. Agree... And I wanted to add... Having a non religious children (a.k.a Murtad children) which shall not pray / take care of your funeral properly according to God/Gods commanded, when you die is among the 'fear' the religious elite (ulema, imam, mullah, priest, pastor, rabi etc..) spread to their loyal followers. They even go further by spreading message that the parent will suffer some horrible punishment by God/Gods (in the afterlife) if they have 'murtad' children. Historically this has happened across all religion, performed by Jewish Rabbi when they face the danger of new religion (Messianic Jew -> Christian), Egyptian Priest when they face the danger of Hellenism, Catholic Priest when they face the danger of Islam/Protestanism/Orthodoxism and so on... And I will not be so surprised when the same trick will also be performed by "Quranic Imam/Priest" in the future when they face the danger of new ideology/religion/sect which posed a threat to their existence and well being.

Peace with you all, Submitter tank you for your advise to go to Hajj, every one can go who wills. STP yes we must read previous scriptures and in the original language. The same is with Quran, we should understand it in its old arabic language which was spoken in the time of revelation. But the language has changed,that is a natural process. Masjid al Aqsa (distant shrine) is build after prophet Mohammed, take a look for that and proof yourself. Quran is not a book of mystic or a puzzle book but a detailed book. A book should be red as a book so Quran too. If one reads a book, take any, it would be aspected for a fluent reading/understanding, and it doesn't matter what for book does one read -depends on the topic, reading level of the reader etc. So if the author of a book is not by all means or he/she is schizophrenic or has some other mental disease or..or.., then it is possible he/she will write a confused text which will be very hard to puzzle and digest it. If we read a manual how to perform smth. we expect clear and detailed information about. Or a history book narrating and teaching us past. God knows the best how to express what it wants to say and is not confused to declare what it wants. God forgets nothing and also did not forget to tell the details. The interpretation of Quran is in my opinion the main issue which brings dispute primary btw. people in muslim world. Masjid al Haram means in arabic forbidden Masjid/Temple. There is no sacred because haram means haram. If is it arabic Quran why should I translate haram as sacred like it means in Persian. Why should be prayed in this direction if God is every where. My understanding is to turn to God and his given instruction given in Quran-to submit. How am I secure if I enter the area in Mekka ... illogical called Gods Haus? That isn't logical by all means. I am secure by God when I submit to it and its decrees thus I'm on the safe side doesn't matter what happens. Peace

I have a video that is somewhat beacause the man who made video about Houries. This video is about ''children'' in the Blissful Hereafter. Quran Talk - Boys in Paradise? https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGoM1JUjDR8

Salaamun Bism does not mean "In the name" because it is not a combination of "Bi" and "Ism". Please check in 961. This Bi+ismi is different than Peace, Thanks for this handshake God bless you all peace

Yes, I'm guessing because I'm not dead yet. There is no evidence in Quran for almost everything you said. You have no citations. I mean you were straight up talking out of your rear man. One does not have to be dead to have knowledge of The Book and provide evidence from it for their claims. Peace

Hahaha the last few are hilarious Haha glad you enjoyed it!