General Issues / Questions

Peace @noshirk has a recent post about his insights in the Science section, look for it there.

Ok well I was not aware of that ... the impression I got is that the people here believe in the Qur'an as the message of God and therefore believed in it wholeheartedly. We believe in Jinns because we believe in the word of Allah (Swt). Not to be rude to anyone, but I would like to know why they do not pray, believe in Jinns etc? We are still at debate about praying. That's why! Some people find benefit in it. Others don't. Then there are also those who have come across other meanings of the word salaat. What connection does jinn have with prayer? You can see jinn if you try hard. Its a creature. Just because I see chimps does not mean I have to believe in all of evolution theories. Belief is very personal though and in Islam each of us manages our own fate. You sum it up here Do these people believe in the oneness of God? Do they Believe in the angels, the judgment day and message of God (i.e Quran)? If yes then it is between Allah (swt) and their souls on the day of judgement if they are wrong. You or me are no ones to pass judgement on them they reject science sometimes rotfl I suppose its because some artificial conspiracy theories are presented too convincingly. I fell for a few too once and my sibling who swears by science once fell for the reptilian politician conspiracy theory of David Icke.

Peace, Topic has been locked - leave the egos behind pls.

Like the U.S. Police Force says "Everyone is innocent until proved otherwise". Well, I cannot say I can empirically prove that the Earth is round because I basically lack the equipment and first-hand experience, but by studying available academic resources I personally tend to trust that the Earth is round in my own little realm. I have seen no indications that the Earth would be flat to be honest. It sounds a bit overambitious on the conspiracy front to claim the Earth to be flat considered all the technology that is online all over the Earth and satellites in the skies and that ISS space station somewhere in orbit of the planet which people can aim their telescopes at to empirically prove it is up there. Then to say there is no gravity but it is an invented claim, but what the heck is keeping their feet on the ground? I have personally owned satellite receiver equipment and I am relatively knowledgeable on how the technology works and I know for sure that the signal is reflected by the disc onto the LNB and it communicates using microwaves, and the signal clearly comes from the sky and not some tower somewhere. I am that technically gifted that I can tell the signal stems from the sky that I receive using that disc. Jamming equipment, that some governments use, disturbs the microwaves in the skies that the signal is jammed and cannot be picked up by the receiver equipment. But if I am still wrong then I must congratulate the conspiracy makers for making a perfect delusion. But I would still wonder about the large video panels above our heads that play scenes from Star Wars of outer space. Be well Yeah, I even asked them a few times what the point would be to lie this much, like if their agenda is to turn people away from God, how does a round Earth or lying about stuff in space accomplish that? Spending trillions of dollars to lie on something so stupid?

resurrecting old threads... though I wonder what happened to Brother Alen, he was a cool bro, anyone knows? I visit the section that shows what threads are currently being viewed by guests and then I check out ones that seem weird or interesting and sometimes I post in them then, often with jokes.

Let's not put words in the quran where there are none. The ayat doesn't state that the only milk we are supposed to drink is from the livestock. It also doesn't say women aren't livestock. Joke.

Welcome here, There are few who actually know what it is they recite when they read Quran anyway, despite being Arabs, so no big difference. Be well

Peace FreedomStands. I think each one of us must have Qorans and/or Bibles that have pages missing. That is why we differ in many things and argue with each other!!! Just think for a moment, if we had the same bible and /or Qoran. We will be all in total agreement. Hard to grasp? GOD bless you. Peace. It is hard to grasp, since we would not only need the same book, but would need the same mind too. The only thing any of us share truly is the same God, regardless of what we say.

Maybe you watch too many horror flicks? That is an idea, but I don't watch anything at all, lol I haven't seen a movie in a long time, and I don't have a tv or anything. The dream was pleasant enough, as compared to my usual constant nightmares and troubled dreams this one was on the better end of the spectrum, at least it gave me some cool ideas to write, then I woke up and all the bad things dawned on me so I woke up into the nightmare.

The First Three Verses Ch. Vrs. Wrd. Let. Value 1 1 4 19 311 1 2 4 17 305 1 3 2 12 193 Sum 6 10 48 809 10 Words and 48 Letters Chapter 10 verse 48 Quran 10 48 this verse is composed of 7 Words and 29 Letters Translation They say, ?When will this promise be fulfilled, should you be truthful?? the verse is repeated in the same form 6 times but at 10 48 for the first time. 1048 2138 2771 3429 3648 6725 the vale of the verse is a prime number 571(MAY BE THE BIRTH OF THE PROPHET MAY PEACE BE UPON HIM) There is one similar Verse to these Quran 32 28 They say, ?When will this judgement(Victory) be, if you are truthful?? exactly 7 words and 29 letters with prime value of 547 the verse 32 28 exactly occurs between the middle of the six verses 1048 2138 2771 32 28 3429 3648 6725 now chapter 48 surat Al-Fath ten verses chater 48 19-28 the only two places existed in the entire Quran 10 verses from 10 19 to 10 28 .... seidnejmy selam all

Hail to you seidnejmy, There is at least one prophecy of Isaiah that has not yet been fulfilled. The Compilation is supposed to be purified and preserved in such a way it cannot be corrupted again. The subject is primarily Quran which does not at all portray the right 'deen' as it should to in its present shape. As for famous prophets or other successful people returning is the sign of the establishment of the Kingdom. These people simply will be the rulers. Be well

Very interesting thread, thank you Did you like http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9607171.msg362129#msg362129 ? Does anyone have anything to say about those posts?

Based on what I read in the Gospel.. It seems this Jesus character teaches "Eastern Religion" customized for the Jews.. Eastern religion (Buddhism, Taoism, etc..) are focusing on DEEDS and that's why they're being labeled as "DHARMIC" religion (Dharma is a Sanskrit word for deed) in contrast to the western religion which are focusing on FAITH/BELIEF and RITUALS. Based on the writings in the Gospel; Jesus is focusing on DEEDS in contrast to Rabbanic Judaism who are focusing on RELIGION/RITUALS (Sabbath, beard, headscarf, stoning adulterer, destroying statue/idols, offering/sacrifice, prayer utterance etc..). "Reap what you sow" is definitely a description of "Karmic" law originated from the east (Hinduism/Buddhism) "Lead by serving", "Simple life" and "Haughty shall be humbled and humble shall be exalted" are definitely originated from Taoism Thank you Jafar for the clarification and argumentation. As you are a true erudite, it is always a pleasure to read your enlightening posts. Peace

Does that mean that we should accept that a King like Solomon was abandoned without food or services until some termites finished his staff and he fell down and his death was revealed, as the legend has put it?! Salaam Brother, You got an awakening point here bro. Need time to ponder. )

http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9606645.msg352750#msg352750

agphys is right to say keeping Allah's remembrance in the heart with fear for Him between any two ritual prayers. Again middle prayer is that which is performed at the two points of the day. The prayer at dawn i.e., in the middle between the night and the day. And the other is the prayer at dusk ie, in the middle between the day and the night. However there exists no definition for prayer in the first place but individual view points which may be in millions.

I will go to that passage in time and look at it, but the same phrase is used saying Al-madinateh Jes'aia marking "The community of Isaiha" as far as I have been able to decipher the language. It is likely a reference that they utter like those said in the community of Isaiah. The answer could be simple because Moses never slayed a man since qat-ta-lam does not mean slay or kill but to master/defeat which does not in itself mean kill l but more that you subdued the one you contest with and it can be both verbal and physical. Q-t-l can thus mean you are in a verbal conflict with someone and master this debate and persuade them thus defeating them in debate or simply defeating their arguments so that the crowds will walk your line. It is only the account of the Bible and the worthless interpretation of Quran that says Moses kill a man. Josepheus, a prehistoric historian, mentions a completely different story to the event. And my ability to decipher the Arabic text has revealed that Moses tried to defeat his opponents arguments when they conspired against him and his claimed prophethood. Moses was then forced on the run due to persecution, met the two women at the well, married one of then, worked for the father-in-law for several years, and when he was free he met with the light of GOD who taught him things and strengthened his self-estem and because Aaron (Harun) was skilled with his tongue and influential in their community GOD also made Aaron enlightened with the same as Moses knew. When he returned he could convince the Bani Israel that he indeed was a prophet and avert the plot against his life. After gaining support he opposed Pharaoh. To retell more of the true account I need to get into those passages of Quran on my reinterpretation project. I understand your objection since Isaiah did not live before Moses so it sounds strange, but the text could also make a parallel to Isaiah since Quran is a teaching book with many parables. It also appears that Quran takes it that the community of Isaiah were great sinners, but not as much as in this era. However in 3620 it is very clear that it refers to the famous prophet Isaiah as per my interpretation work.

The root of the verb which is usually translated as fear when speaking about God is w-q-y, which basically means protect. In its eighth form is is reflexive, one protets onself, so it would be tantamount to protect yourself from God. If we look in 4.1. we are adviced to ittaqw Allay waal arham, protect ourselves form God and the wombs. So I think it is plain that we are being told to protect oursleves from the consequences of remaining ignorant of the import of God or the import of the wombs, of our co9ndition with respect to them, or like some translators tranlate, to be conscious, to be attentive or be aware. Whatever we do or not so it is at our own risk. God does not attack treacherously. So we are warned we care for ourselves or we do not. Salaam Yeah, I agree with that, the "guard yourself from God" idea.

Peace be upon you Indelwyn The book "Muhammed and the believers" by Fred M. Donner is one of the best books about historical Muhammed. Here is a good review of the book from amazon. You can download the book from this link http//www.freebookspot.es/Comments.aspx?Element_ID=251266 http//freepdfs.net Thanks for sharing the ebook download links!

Peace FreedomStands. Does the job of "professional lasher" exist? Pity he did not ask me either,I would have been easy on him and gone for the "symbolic" type of lashing. GOD bless you. Peace. Haha it sounds like a great job, I do it whenever I can! Sometimes I'm naughty and do the symbolic one just because I like to hear people squeel! I say, hey, you shouldn't do that! And they go "Weeee, Weeee"