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hello & peace be upon you as well welcome How do you do salat? here is a site http//www.quran-islam.org/main_topics/islam/pillars/al-salat_(P1192).html

Please do not make fun of names, it goes against one of the commandments of verse 4911. He clearly is kidding there.

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Shalom Aleikhem, Welcome to free-minds. thanks for sharing your link with us. Hope to see you in the forum (although I am not so regular lately). How much more ironic can it be ? Just take a look at the ayaat that they quote to ban music in the name of Hadith 316 And from the people, there are those who will purchase a baseless narrative(Hadiythi) with which to mislead from the path of God without knowledge, and to make it a mockery. These will have a humiliating retribution. Peace -------------- Student of Allah Yep, and that's exactly one of the verses I use to show traditionalists that ahadith are forbidden. Urgh... It's like talking to a wall. brickwall

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Welcome Brother Most of us share a similar story I guess. The more you look into it all, the more you wonder how people can ignore obviously lies being attributed to God And his messengers. May Allah continue to guide us all pr

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yay Welcome ) Thanky you indelwyn ) may Allah bless you always Salaam I did not ask you to interpret nope I asked you to reflect, that means to me, that I was hoping that you would open The Quran and search for yourself for the answers and reflect on the verses you read. InshaAllah , I will try to help you a little bit, but keep in mind that this is only how I understand it at this moment. I also advice you to erase everything you learned thus far, clear your mind from every hadith and and other falsehood. Please just start with chapter 1 and then chapter 2 till you come to 28. read all those verses carefully. 28 And from the people are those who say "We believe in God and in the Last Day," but they are not believers. Are you and me potential candidates? Think about it. Please note that this verse is not talking about atheists or some other groups. But why are they not believers? The next verses tell you how these people behave, what they say, how they look like and why they are not among the believers. Please read those verses carefully (29-215). I believe that verse 216 sums it up, why they became who they are without even noticing it. 216These are the ones who have purchased straying with guidance their trade did not profit them, nor were they guided. blue part is referring to my understanding to the people mentioned in 28 red part is the why. They purchased straying with guidance and it was a bad trade. verse 217-20 gives examples how this people are. Before you read those verses (217-20) please read first 37 and 226 and take your own conclusions. We are now at 221 221 O people, serve your Lord who has created you and those before you that you may be righteous. Who do we have to serve? please note the blue part, He did not only created you but also those before you. Is Bukharie created or is he your creator? 222 gives some more information about your Lord. 222 The One who has made the earth a resting place, and the sky a shelter, and He sent down from the sky water with which He brought out fruits as a gift to you. So do not set up any equals with God while you know. Did Bukharie do the red part? If you are 100% sure that Bukharie did not THEN please read the blue part very very veeeeeeeeeeeeery carefully. I guess you are one of the ones who know. But if you are still in doubt, please read 223-24 223 And if you are in doubt as to what We have sent down to Our servant, then bring a sura like this, and call upon your witnesses other than God if you are truthful. 224 And if you cannot do this; and you will not be able to do this; then beware the Fire whose fuel is people and stones, it has been prepared for the rejecters. Please read further the next verses and read the story of Adam carefully, it's not there just to tell a story. It's strongly connected to the previous verses you already read. While you read take a note at verse 235 235 And We said "O Adam, reside you and your mate in the paradise, and eat from it bountifully as you both wish, and do not approach this tree, else you will be of those who have wronged." please read 236 to know what happened when Adam took some other guidance. Similar to 235 is said in 238-39 238 We said "Descend from it all of you, so when the guidance comes from Me, then whoever follows My guidance, they will have nothing to fear, nor will they grieve." 239 And those who disbelieve and deny Our revelations, they are the dwellers of Hell, in it they will abide. I hope you understand now what the red part means. Please note also that Guidance is singular. Is ?The Quran and hadith? singular? Salaam and may Allah increase us in knowledge and lead us to His Path, Bender and FYI my Arabic is like that of a toddler or worse. i'll read it carefuly, promise ) Peace and welcome Andantino. Looks like you have already made q lots of friends. Thanks hello Ervin, yeah seems like that and i love how this community welcoming the new one... so lovely ) group group

Shalom Aleikhem , May God guide you to His straight path and lead you to success in this life and the next. By the way, are you just "Sayyid" or the "family of prophet" Sayyid ? Peace --------------- Student of Allah

Walakum salam Student of Allah, Ervin, mmkhan, siwto, maverickMonotheist. As most of you have asked about Anarcho Capitalism. Here is a quick summary of what it means We believe that no one has the right to initiate the use of force onto others. Anything that uses force we are against (except perhaps some very extreme examples which I will discuss some other time to not confuse the issue). I think Dictionary.com gives a good definition of Anarchy a theory that regards the absence of all direct or coercive government as a political ideal and that proposes the cooperative and voluntary association of individuals and groups as the principal mode of organized society. In terms of capitalism, we believe in free market economics (this goes hand in hand with the above statement mentioned), such as Austrian school of economics. We see capitalism as a voluntary transaction between 2 or more groups of people. As we are for a stateless society, we are therefore obviously against ideas such as a national health service, universal educational system, subsidised tuition fees etc by the state. Most of us (if not all) support the gold standard when it comes to money. We do not even support the idea of a state for law and order, defense, courts etc such as libertarians who believe in less govt may do. In my personal opinion, Anarcho-capitalism is the natural progression of Libertarianism - That is, if you become a true libertarian (and believe it truly), you will by natural become an anarchist. We are not against ideas such as non-profit organisations/charities. This does not mean that we do not care for the poor, or that we want a "hell-like" society. Quite the opposite it is precisely because of the poor, the weak, and for human progression that we support these ideas. But the main reasons for our system is The first being that such a system maximises liberty and freedom (more so than any other system) And the second being that it would lead to a more equal society in terms of wealth, and a productive one. I hope that is a quite summary into our views. Of course I can expand in why this system helps the poor? Why this system gives liberty? Why this system won't lead to the poor not being educated, or the poor being worse of, but that is for another discussion. On the other hand, your criteria of "true belief" is not enough for me when yu stated " I very much admire those who can accept religion with little questions - That is true belief"; e.g Can we get the Right Way without more & more questionning? I understand what you mean, but this is certainly something I have experienced in my life. When I was younger, I accepted my religion with full faith. I had a "connection" with Allah. I would feel so bad if I had missed my prayer. I porbably know more of my religion now than I knew then. But I accepted Islam then based on conviction. I did not try to derive the reasoning why certain ayahs were revealed, but rather accepted it as the word of Allah. I still believe it is the word of Allah, and I still believe 100% of it is right. But there is little "connection" between me and Allah. That's the problem. Once we think that we are more "educated" on something, we begin to lose common sense on it. Religion is a spiritual thing. It demands the belief in the unseen. You cannot reason on the unseen, except that which you have seen. So whilst we may have the answers to what is in front of us to get the answers to the unseen, that connection is vital. So belief in unseen quite literally requires blind faith.

Peace welcome

Salam and welcome Suilverqueen. It's good that you have registered. Now you can start working out your own understanding of the Quran with others help. Thanks

Peace Munib and welcome to the forum. I think it would be good if you get your brothers ans sisters in faith to also join the forum. Make a sugestion to them. We all need to Connect. Anyway I hope you enjoy your time with Free minds. Thanks

Salaam Thanks HAppy welcome Roads are many, But in the end of the path all leads to is Allah. Judgment/s are just a thing that like our skin and cells that are countinusly dying/borning again, everyday is day to reborn inside, take the road that fullfill your Heart with love and kindeness and just work mind in a Enlighted way sun pr Anything you need, feel confotble Nomad AlAndalusi

pok?j, You are welcome and you like a thing i like too. I see you as a brother of mine because i lived in former USSR, Russia and Ukraine but never somedy from there here in FM. I like PHYSICS because i had i idea to demonstrate God using theoritical physcs talking of the nature of light; something that i think physicist wronly took the case... My idea is not yet published yet... But dont worry iknow nothig in poland language but am not bad in russian. salam brother and i will be back.

Peace! try this link ! http//web.archive.org/web/20080927214406/http//www.free-minds.org/german.htm

Thanks for your welcome message bro Abdul-Hadi and Student of Allah. Yes, I'm aware that there's always be different opinion between the quranist about many things. But in the end, it all makes sense to me, since we decided to leave the Ulema and Mullah behind, we put our spiritual life responsibility individually. And in line with this, now I understand why Prophet Muhammad didn't come up with his Quran tafseer. There's no such book. It could be means that he didn't insist his understanding, and let the interpretation evolved over time. Allah knows best. Salaam

Shalom aleikhom, Too bad I do not know you. But Welcome back welcome Are you coming back to be regular ? or we will meet you again in 2012 ? lol... Peace be on you ------------------------ Student of Allah