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    AaRoN
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    you think this only happens in the west? how do you think they convince dudes to fly into buildings or blow themselves up? first they abuse them, and then they tell them that martyrdom will bring them forgiveness. simple.

    after all, as yusha says, the victim is just as much to blame as the perpetrator.

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      Samia
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      Yes, in the West there are several cases of men getting raped by homosexuals. So should men also go anywhere guarded by anyone? ;D ;D

      In the West? Maybe you are not familiar with the story of the Egyptian prisoner who told of his plight on TV.

      By homosexuals? So, women are raped by heterosexuals and men are raped by homosexuals? Rape is an act of disturbed nuts, perverts, psychos, has nothing to do with sexual orientation.

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        Angel
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        Definitely. Any woman can walk around stark naked and noone has the right to sexually assault her just like anyone can leave their wallet full of money on a busy street and noone has the right to pick it up and get away with it.

        Jankren I am disappointed in you.

        A woman that dresses in a sexy manner is more likely to be asked out or get chatted up, but there is not a shred of evidence to suggest she is more likely to get raped, so camparing it to a wallet on a busy street is ridiculous. Statistically lap dancers and female strippers are not more likely to get raped then the average woman.

        as far as I know even in a US trial involving a rape case, the first question the lawyer gonna ask is "What kind of dress did you wear when the crime occurred?"

        it's a stupid question, so there is no need to ask it.

        Yes, in the West there are several cases of men getting raped by homosexuals.

        and in Pakistan too.

        Just because we tolerate homosexuality in the West don't erroneously assume men raping men is more common in the West, coz there is no evidence to suggest this either.

        I do believe that men and women in Muslim countries are less likly to admit if they have got raped as well.

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          Elke
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          as far as I know even in a US trial involving a rape case, the first question the lawyer gonna ask is "What kind of dress did you wear when the crime occurred?"

          it's a stupid question, so there is no need to ask it.

          yes, it's a stupid question, but

          in Italy a court of law concluded that a woman could not possibly have been raped as she was wearing jeans....

          they did not precise if those were blue or red jeans though, dunno, may be men are comparable to bulls ???

          anyway, there has been a public outcry all over Europe

          peace lk

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            Angel
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            yes, it's a stupid question, but

            in Italy a court of law concluded that a woman could not possibly have been raped as she was wearing jeans....

            wha??? hypno

            how dumb can you get ???, it doesn't take a genious to work out that her rapist pulled the zip down )

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              wha??? hypno

              how dumb can you get ???, it doesn't take a genious to work out that her rapist pulled the zip down )

              what's if it's one of those button ones, also some of those jeans women wear are so figure huggingly tight they look absolutely impossible to take off. There must something to that ruling, what kind of jeans were they that she couldn't be raped?? Also where can I buy em?

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                Angel
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                what's if it's one of those button ones,

                he can just open the buttons.

                also some of those jeans women wear are so figure huggingly tight they look absolutely impossible to take off.

                well they are not that hard to take off actually, they may look it but they certainly aint.

                There must something to that ruling, what kind of jeans were they that she couldn't be raped??

                they are just being silly, some jeans are harder to take off but it's hardly mission impossible.

                I wonder why they didn't test her jeans for his finger prints ???

                Also where can I buy em?

                try NewLook or Topshop. D

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                  A woman that dresses in a sexy manner is more likely to be asked out or get chatted up, but there is not a shred of evidence to suggest she is more likely to get raped, so camparing it to a wallet on a busy street is ridiculous. Statistically lap dancers and female strippers are not more likely to get raped then the average woman.

                  Yes because they are fully aware that they will have their ass kicked badly by the bouncers if they ever try to lay their hands on the strippers ...

                  Just because we tolerate homosexuality in the West don't erroneously assume men raping men is more common in the West, coz there is no evidence to suggest this either.

                  I do believe that men and women in Muslim countries are less likly to admit if they have got raped as well.

                  All of the rape cases involving homosexuals which I heard occurred in the West and I never heard of similar case in Indonesia. As for the tendency of rape victims in Asia not to speak up, I agree that it is true and I think it is wrong.

                  In the West? Maybe you are not familiar with the story of the Egyptian prisoner who told of his plight on TV.

                  Please share the information with me.

                  By homosexuals? So, women are raped by heterosexuals and men are raped by homosexuals? Rape is an act of disturbed nuts, perverts, psychos, has nothing to do with sexual orientation.

                  Let's get real Samia. How often did you hear about rapes perpetated by women toward men? It is very very rare I believe.

                  Peace,

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                    Katara
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                    African Americans get arrested more frequently than Whites. But that does not mean African American commited more crime than White. Same thing with rape.

                    Male victim are more unlikely to report because of society norm/pressure on males.

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                      TheNabi
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                      Peace

                      All women do not report either, and some that do have not been raped at all.

                      Joe

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                        AaRoN
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                        you're right joe... i read a story somewhere about this guy who was falsely accused of making sexual advances towards the wife of his boss... sadly his boss believed her over him... i wonder if anyone can remind me where i read this story

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                          jankren
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                          you're right joe... i read a story somewhere about this guy who was falsely accused of making sexual advances towards the wife of his boss... sadly his boss believed her over him... i wonder if anyone can remind me where i read this story

                          Its that one dude Joseph .

                          Actually Im not sure what you are talkin' about.

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                            TheNabi
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                            Peace Aaron

                            You've a way with words, like another who was the requested help in expositions. I wonder if anyone can remind me of that story.

                            Joe

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                              AaRoN
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                              Its that one dude Joseph

                              )


                              You've a way with words, like another who was the requested help in expositions. I wonder if anyone can remind me of that story.

                              hey joe are you talking about that story of a guy who didn't think he was capable to deliver so he asked that he might have the help of one of his bros?

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                                khalil
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                                hey joe are you talking about that story of a guy who didn't think he was capable to deliver so he asked that he might have the help of one of his bros?
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                                Oh the man with the stutter. I heared of him, but suprisingly I never heared from him.

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                                  AaRoN
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                                  was it a stutter? i'm not sure exactly what it was... i guess we're taking this abortion thread far off course though

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                                    Elke
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                                    Also where can I buy em?

                                    rotfl

                                    as for women raping man
                                    http//www.samsloan.com/trobrian.htm
                                    but the guy himself said it was not that bad the second time....

                                    to get back to the subject - women (just as men) in order to rape often resort to using objects - which kind of proves that it often is about power...

                                    peace lk

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                                      Yes because they are fully aware that they will have their ass kicked badly by the bouncers if they ever try to lay their hands on the strippers ...

                                      Jankren exactly who is gonna stop them being raped when they are outside work?, they don't have a guardian angels with them .

                                      There is simply not a shread of evidence to suggest what women where makes a difference to whether they get raped or not. Believing that dress code indicates to whether you are more likely to get raped or not is just as "logical" as believing the earth is flat, it is such a short sighted, ignorant yet popular view.

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                                        jankren
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                                        Jankren exactly who is gonna stop them being raped when they are outside work?, they don't have a guardian angels with them .

                                        Do strippers dress in public the way they dress at work? I dont think so. Besides, if there are some men obsessed with a stripper or something they could just make a 'deal' with her without having to sexually abuse her which could obviously risk unnecessary criminal prosecution.

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                                          Samia
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                                          If rape is a reaction to what women wear in public, we should expect rape to take place in public.
                                          I think some are mixing between rape and sexual harrasment.

                                          S.H can take place in public.

                                          Where does rape take place? Where do rapist rape women?

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