Skip to content
  • Categories
  • Recent
  • Users
Skins
  • Light
  • Brite
  • Cerulean
  • Cosmo
  • Flatly
  • Journal
  • Litera
  • Lumen
  • Lux
  • Materia
  • Minty
  • Morph
  • Pulse
  • Sandstone
  • Simplex
  • Sketchy
  • Spacelab
  • United
  • Yeti
  • Zephyr
  • Dark
  • Cyborg
  • Darkly
  • Quartz
  • Slate
  • Solar
  • Superhero
  • Vapor

  • Default (No Skin)
  • No Skin
Collapse
Free Minds Forum Icon
  1. Home
  2. General Issues / Questions
  3. General Issues / Questions
  4. A topic for those who study Classical Arabic

A topic for those who study Classical Arabic

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved General Issues / Questions
104 Posts 14 Posters 3.7k Views
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • S Offline
    S Offline
    Samia
    wrote on last edited by
    #45

    Salaam Kashif

    Just a few typos
    written as
    (Or perhaps you do not have this letter on your keyboard? I noticed its absence also in your previous message in the word , written as ) .
    Also and I think , written as and respectively.

    1 Reply Last reply
    0
    • K Offline
      K Offline
      Kashif
      wrote on last edited by
      #46

      Thank you sister Samia pointing out those typos, you are right I could not find Wow(with hamza on top) on my windows arabic keyboard. but I can definitely fixed them with other arabic editor I am developing. Inshallah I will fix those errors and update them.

      1 Reply Last reply
      0
      • L Offline
        L Offline
        lunarious
        wrote on last edited by
        #47

        Fantastic!
        You don't understand what i exactly mean, but you keep on with.

        1 Reply Last reply
        0
        • S Offline
          S Offline
          Samia
          wrote on last edited by
          #48

          Thank you sister Samia pointing out those typos, you are right I could not find Wow(with hamza on top) on my windows arabic keyboard. but I can definitely fixed them with other arabic editor I am developing. Inshallah I will fix those errors and update them.

          Try the key "c".

          1 Reply Last reply
          0
          • N Offline
            N Offline
            nadeem
            wrote on last edited by
            #49

            Peace,

            Great to see this thread being nourished by learned members! ;D

            I've done some exercises in Arabic, and I'd appreciate some feedback.

            Feel free to butcher me! peace

            http//www.reflekterselv.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1443.0;attach=542

            Nadeem

            1 Reply Last reply
            0
            • K Offline
              K Offline
              Kashif
              wrote on last edited by
              #50

              I found following book for Arabic grammar a valuable resource.

              Arabic for English Speaking students
              by Muhammad Addul-Rauf PHD

              This book provides "get to the point" Arabic grammar details with good examples.

              http//www.amazon.com/English-Speaking-Students-Muhammad-Abdul-Rauf/dp/1881963004/ref=sr_11_1/002-5761012-1813662?ie=UTF8&qid=1179091195&sr=11-1

              1 Reply Last reply
              0
              • S Offline
                S Offline
                Samia
                wrote on last edited by
                #51

                Salaam Nadeem

                Well done!

                Some corrections
                P 1
                11. you (2 m &f)

                P 3
                The woman went
                She went

                P 4 not (diptote)
                8. Translation The wife of Noah and the wife of Lot were for two pious servants among God's servants (pious is dual and is indefinite because it's an adjective of an indefinite noun which is two servants).

                P 5
                Same as P 3.

                P 6 Either the English sentence be "The pious women" or the Arabic one be " ". If it is in the plural, then not .

                1 Reply Last reply
                0
                • U Offline
                  U Offline
                  unknownuser
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #52

                  Salaam sis Samia,

                  Just a question

                  What is the difference between kill 249, 284 and 4025. In 249,284 it is mentioned that Pharaoh used to kill males of Israelites (I think it refer to when Moses was born or before he became prophet ) and in 4025 it mentions when Moses went to Pharaoh with truth the Pharaoh's people said Kill (Qatala is used here) those males who believe in Moses. I am just curious why the two different words are used for the same act i mean to kill. Is there any difference in the two words.

                  Thanks, Hamsa

                  1 Reply Last reply
                  0
                  • S Offline
                    S Offline
                    Samia
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #53

                    Salaam sis Samia,

                    Just a question

                    What is the difference between kill 249, 284 and 4025. In 249,284 it is mentioned that Pharaoh used to kill males of Israelites (I think it refer to when Moses was born or before he became prophet ) and in 4025 it mentions when Moses went to Pharaoh with truth the Pharaoh's people said Kill (Qatala is used here) those males who believe in Moses. I am just curious why the two different words are used for the same act i mean to kill. Is there any difference in the two words.

                    Thanks, Hamsa

                    Salaam Hamsa

                    Sorry for the belated reply!

                    means to slaughter, specifically...but means to kill by any other means, generally.

                    1 Reply Last reply
                    0
                    • N Offline
                      N Offline
                      nadeem
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #54

                      Peace,

                      Thanks Samia!

                      I've written a little dialog in Arabic. Nothing much, but something still... -)

                      Here it goes

                      . .

                      In my head, this translates to

                      They said "You rejected the signs of god".
                      Then he said "I'm but a believer in the deen of god".
                      Then they said "We reject your words, and you did not believe in god".
                      Then he said " That is not true, and my provider is one. You testify, and I testify, but he is the witness and better than us".

                      How did I do?

                      Nadeem

                      1 Reply Last reply
                      0
                      • S Offline
                        S Offline
                        Samia
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #55

                        Salaam Nadeem

                        The important thing is I understood it...hmmm until the last line. I will tell you why after I correct it

                        1. Unlike the English verb "to reject", the Arabic verb "kafara" takes a preposition "bi"

                        2. When the "bi" prefixes the definite article "", do not get rid of the "alif". I know it won't be pronounced, but it should not go away either.

                        3. A pronoun following a preposition or a verb (i.e in the genetive or the accusative state) will be suffixed to them and connected to them (i the preceding letter permits).

                        \ .

                        I read as , which means to beg (like in beggar). That's why at first I did not understand.

                        That's a good trial. Your errors are expected.

                        1 Reply Last reply
                        0
                        • N Offline
                          N Offline
                          nadeem
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #56

                          Peace,

                          Thanks for the correction, Samia.

                          Just a quick one this time

                          Is it pronounced Maa sajadnaa linsaanin or Maa sajadnaa li insaanin?

                          Nadeem

                          1 Reply Last reply
                          0
                          • N Offline
                            N Offline
                            nadeem
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #57

                            Peace,

                            In my book it says translate "This child wrote his name in this book. Is he your child?".

                            My take on it

                            ? .

                            But the key says

                            ? .

                            Any one feel like they know what's going on? I certainly don't.

                            Nadeem

                            1 Reply Last reply
                            0
                            • S Offline
                              S Offline
                              Samia
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #58

                              Peace,

                              Thanks for the correction, Samia.

                              Just a quick one this time

                              Is it pronounced Maa sajadnaa linsaanin or Maa sajadnaa li insaanin?

                              Nadeem

                              maa sajadnaa li 'insaanin

                              1 Reply Last reply
                              0
                              • S Offline
                                S Offline
                                Samia
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #59

                                Peace,

                                In my book it says translate "This child wrote his name in this book. Is he your child?".

                                My take on it

                                ? .

                                But the key says

                                ? .

                                Any one feel like they know what's going on? I certainly don't.

                                Nadeem

                                Both sentences are missing each a component

                                or

                                Yours is missing the definite article in (&#1583, and the other is missing ( ).
                                Also, there shouldn't be a space between the alif and "huwa" ( ) not ( ).

                                1 Reply Last reply
                                0
                                • N Offline
                                  N Offline
                                  nadeem
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #60

                                  Thanks sis for both replies. Why must walad have a definite article?

                                  1 Reply Last reply
                                  0
                                  • S Offline
                                    S Offline
                                    Samia
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #61

                                    Thanks sis for both replies. Why must walad have a definite article?

                                    Since Arabic does not use the verb (to be0 in the present, the language makes use of the definite article to differentiate between the relation between to consecutive nouns

                                    This is a boy
                                    This boy

                                    The boy is inteligent
                                    The inteligent boy

                                    sister of the (paternal) uncle
                                    Uncle (paternal) of the sister

                                    1 Reply Last reply
                                    0
                                    • N Offline
                                      N Offline
                                      nadeem
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #62

                                      Thanks sis, but how would you say "This is the boy"?

                                      1 Reply Last reply
                                      0
                                      • S Offline
                                        S Offline
                                        Samia
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #63

                                        Thanks sis, but how would you say "This is the boy"?

                                        By inserting a pronoun referring to the subject

                                        1 Reply Last reply
                                        0
                                        • N Offline
                                          N Offline
                                          nadeem
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #64

                                          If there was a preposition like fee at the beginning, would it be al-waladu or al-waladi? Does the pronoun interfere?

                                          1 Reply Last reply
                                          0
                                          Reply
                                          • Reply as topic
                                          Log in to reply
                                          • Oldest to Newest
                                          • Newest to Oldest
                                          • Most Votes


                                          • Login

                                          • Don't have an account? Register

                                          • Login or register to search.
                                          • First post
                                            Last post
                                          0
                                          • Categories
                                          • Recent
                                          • Users