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    nadeem
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    Peace,

    Thanks Samia!

    I've written a little dialog in Arabic. Nothing much, but something still... -)

    Here it goes

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    In my head, this translates to

    They said "You rejected the signs of god".
    Then he said "I'm but a believer in the deen of god".
    Then they said "We reject your words, and you did not believe in god".
    Then he said " That is not true, and my provider is one. You testify, and I testify, but he is the witness and better than us".

    How did I do?

    Nadeem

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      Samia
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      Salaam Nadeem

      The important thing is I understood it...hmmm until the last line. I will tell you why after I correct it

      1. Unlike the English verb "to reject", the Arabic verb "kafara" takes a preposition "bi"

      2. When the "bi" prefixes the definite article "", do not get rid of the "alif". I know it won't be pronounced, but it should not go away either.

      3. A pronoun following a preposition or a verb (i.e in the genetive or the accusative state) will be suffixed to them and connected to them (i the preceding letter permits).

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      I read as , which means to beg (like in beggar). That's why at first I did not understand.

      That's a good trial. Your errors are expected.

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        nadeem
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        Peace,

        Thanks for the correction, Samia.

        Just a quick one this time

        Is it pronounced Maa sajadnaa linsaanin or Maa sajadnaa li insaanin?

        Nadeem

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          nadeem
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          Peace,

          In my book it says translate "This child wrote his name in this book. Is he your child?".

          My take on it

          ? .

          But the key says

          ? .

          Any one feel like they know what's going on? I certainly don't.

          Nadeem

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            Samia
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            Peace,

            Thanks for the correction, Samia.

            Just a quick one this time

            Is it pronounced Maa sajadnaa linsaanin or Maa sajadnaa li insaanin?

            Nadeem

            maa sajadnaa li 'insaanin

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              Samia
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              Peace,

              In my book it says translate "This child wrote his name in this book. Is he your child?".

              My take on it

              ? .

              But the key says

              ? .

              Any one feel like they know what's going on? I certainly don't.

              Nadeem

              Both sentences are missing each a component

              or

              Yours is missing the definite article in (&#1583, and the other is missing ( ).
              Also, there shouldn't be a space between the alif and "huwa" ( ) not ( ).

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                nadeem
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                Thanks sis for both replies. Why must walad have a definite article?

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                  Samia
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                  Thanks sis for both replies. Why must walad have a definite article?

                  Since Arabic does not use the verb (to be0 in the present, the language makes use of the definite article to differentiate between the relation between to consecutive nouns

                  This is a boy
                  This boy

                  The boy is inteligent
                  The inteligent boy

                  sister of the (paternal) uncle
                  Uncle (paternal) of the sister

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                    nadeem
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                    Thanks sis, but how would you say "This is the boy"?

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                      Samia
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                      Thanks sis, but how would you say "This is the boy"?

                      By inserting a pronoun referring to the subject

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                        nadeem
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                        If there was a preposition like fee at the beginning, would it be al-waladu or al-waladi? Does the pronoun interfere?

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                          Samia
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                          If there was a preposition like fee at the beginning, would it be al-waladu or al-waladi? Does the pronoun interfere?

                          As " with this boy "?

                          Yes, the preposition works across the demonstartive pronoun ma3a haathal waladi. The pronoun does not shield the noun from the preposition.

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                            nadeem
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                            Shukran!

                            "Qad j?'a rusulun minkum da'awn? 'il? ll?hi"

                            The book says that this means "There came from among you apostles who summoned us to God."

                            But I don't understand why "da'awn?" stands for "summoned us". Doesn't "da'awn?" mean "we summoned"? Does it mean both?

                            Nadeem

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                              Samia
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                              Which verse is this?

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                                nadeem
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                                Verse? This sentence appears in my textbook. Would it be helpful if I wrote it with Arabic letters?

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                                  Samia
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                                  Yes please.

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                                    nadeem
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                                    Peace Samia, all,

                                    The sentence "Wajada kullu Al-Fuqara'i" means "He found all of the poor men". However, could it not also mean "All of the poor men found"?

                                    How do I tell which one?

                                    Nadeem

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                                      Samia
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                                      Peace Samia, all,

                                      The sentence "Wajada kullu Al-Fuqara'i" means "He found all of the poor men". However, could it not also mean "All of the poor men found"?

                                      How do I tell which one?

                                      Nadeem

                                      Salaam Nadeem, all

                                      The sentence you wrote means "all the poor men found...".
                                      "He found all the poor men" will have " kulla..." and not "kullu"

                                      And I would just say "the poor", not the "poor men", unless it is specifically men from the context -)

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                                        nadeem
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                                        As-Salaamu Alaykum (Alayki?) Ustadatee Samia!

                                        As always, thanks for your guidance! Or, perhaps "Shukran li-hidayaki"?

                                        Nadeem

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                                          nadeem
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                                          Peace,

                                          Why is it "Tilka Aayaatu Allahi" and not "Ulaa'ika aayaatu Allahi"?

                                          I thought that the plural Aayaat was a sound feminine plural of Aayat, not a broken plural.

                                          Please explain peace

                                          Nadeem

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