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Is this fair to quote it ??

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    Tay
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    Peace Hussein, Leo,

    How do you differentiate between a person protecting the quran and a person protecting his/her understanding of the quran? Who decides which people are the protectors? What if the protector misunderstands what he/she is protecting? What is the criteria?

    Allah Protects the Quran through means as hlatif pointed out.Or do you believe in "MIRACLES".

    I see. And you are God's ambassador?

    Ponder this
    ?This is an honourable Quran. In a protected record. None can grasp it except those pure. A revelation from the Lord of the worlds.? (Quran 5677-80)

    It means because of my efforts you people have started to believe in "miracles "

    Reference please.

    Before this some of you accepted the importance of "Hadith"

    Name one person, if you are truthful.

    Why do you poeple scatter so many PEARLS,which I have to pick up.
    Can you answer me this question.

    Yes, as soon as you define "PEARLS" and show me some references to where they are scattered.

    Peace,
    Tay

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      Mazhar
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      Quote from Wakas on Yesterday at 012902 PM
      Who are these "Quranists" you keep referring to?
      Munkareen-e- Hadith
      Temperers of the Quran{Leoxyz}

      Dear Leoxyz,

      Why Allah forbade the honorable guests of the Last Messenger to keeping sitting there after dinner/lunch for want of a Hadith?

      http//haqeeqat.org.pk/book_6/4/slides/43.html

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        Leoxyz
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        Peace Hussein, Leo,

        Yes, as soon as you define "PEARLS" and show me some references to where they are scattered.

        Peace,
        Tay

        Where are pearls scattered ?? I have pointed out at many place and one is right on this page

        Mr Naveed said
        You are openly spitting in God's face,

        Do you people think that "ma3zallah" God has "FACE " and anyone can "spit on it"
        This is what is going on ? You ask me where are pearls ??
        Who is ignorant ?
        I or those who translate

        • rub the foot instead of "wash the foot"
          I or those who say qiblaataan /qiblatain does not exist in the classical arabic

        I or those who think "God has a face" ma3aazallah

        BTW what is the translation of this ayaa?

        -rub the foot or wash the foot ?

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          Navid
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          Where are pearls scattered ?? I have pointed out at many place and one is right on this page

          Mr Naveed said
          You are openly spitting in God's face,

          Do you people think that "ma3zallah" God has "FACE " and anyone can "spit on it"

          I am convinced Leo is actually not serious, only here to joke. This truly is a "PEARL." Unbelievable.

          Peace be with you Leo

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            unknownuser
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            Do you people think that "ma3zallah" God has "FACE " and anyone can "spit on it"

            Volume 6, Book 60, Number 371

            Narrated Anas

            The Prophet said, "The people will be thrown into the (Hell) Fire and it will say "Are there any more (to come)?' (50.30) till Allah puts His Foot over it and it will say, 'Qati! Qati! (Enough Enough!)'"

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              Leoxyz
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              Peace Hussein, Leo,

              How do you differentiate between a person protecting the quran and a person protecting his/her understanding of the quran? Who decides which people are the protectors? What if the protector misunderstands what he/she is protecting? What is the criteria?

              Reference please.

              Name one person, if you are truthful.

              Peace,
              Tay

              Dear Tay
              You have asked me for person who has accepted the importance of Hadith.
              Mr OPF has just quoted a Hadith

              Volume 6, Book 60, Number 371

              Narrated Anas

              The Prophet said, "The people will be thrown into the (Hell) Fire and it will say "Are there any more (to come)?' (50.30) till Allah puts His Foot over it and it will say, 'Qati! Qati! (Enough Enough!)'"

              If he has quoted it ,it means he has accepted its importance and bringing it forward to prove the "FOOT " of God
              Any other proof do you want.

              You what is strange in quotation of OPF .He has never quoted Hadith to prove the way to perform Hajj but he has instantly quoted the Hadith to prove "THE FOOT" of Allah

              OPF Will Allah put his right or Left foot in the Hell ??Can you explain ?Or Allah has many feet ma3aazallah .
              Ma3aazallah .

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                unknownuser
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                rotfl

                I suggest you get yourself checked out at a good health clinic, my good brother.

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                  Leoxyz
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                  rotfl

                  I suggest you get yourself checked out at a good health clinic, my good brother.

                  Why did you try to take shelter of fabricated Hadiths ??
                  Can you tell me the reason ???

                  Naveed talked about "Face of God"
                  You rushed to prove "Foot of God"
                  My question is why are you people trying to distort islamic teachings?

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                    unknownuser
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                    Why did you try to take shelter of fabricated Hadiths ??
                    Can you tell me the reason ???

                    Naveed talked about "Face of God"
                    You rushed to prove "Foot of God"
                    My question is why are you people trying to distort islamic teachings?

                    Please look up the definition of "devil's advocate".

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                      Leoxyz
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                      Dear Leoxyz,

                      Why Allah forbade the honorable guests of the Last Messenger to keeping sitting there after dinner/lunch for want of a Hadith?

                      You might be knowing Allah's intentions

                      What is your opinion about "qiblataan/qiblatain"
                      Do they exist in classical arabic or not ??

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                        Mazhar
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                        Dear Leoxyz,

                        Please don't keep jumping from tree to tree; here you have a different topic than Qiblatain. There on that thread you have become silent.

                        Allah has clarified in the verse that those who wish to seek hadith are the ones who annoy/cause uneasyness to the Messenger and anyone who annoys the Messenger has no abode but hell; certainly and beyond any doubt.

                        Please read the verdict of Allah; and remember this thing was told to those people who were closest to the Messenger {Peace and respects to him day and night}. And please do find time to read the link, in easy Urdu, and then let me know if something wrong has been said there or something out of the Quran.

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                          TheNabi
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                          Peace Hussein

                          God protects the Qur'an through means of protection and that includes people.

                          I think it's obvious if someone will protect something there must be some means of protection, but what do you mean it includes people?

                          Joe

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                            Leoxyz
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                            Dear Leoxyz,

                            Please don't keep jumping from tree to tree; here you have a different topic than Qiblatain. There on that thread you have become silent.

                            Allah has clarified in the verse that those who wish to seek hadith are the ones who annoy/cause uneasyness to the Messenger and anyone who annoys the Messenger has no abode but hell; certainly and beyond any doubt.

                            Please read the verdict of Allah; and remember this thing was told to those people who were closest to the Messenger {Peace and respects to him day and night}. And please do find time to read the link, in easy Urdu, and then let me know if something wrong has been said there or something out of the Quran.

                            Please do answer I am still concerned about your restlessness when you were challenging the whole world and saying that "qiblataan/qiblatain " do not exist .
                            Does it exist now or not ?? Just curious my dear brother.
                            secondly how do you translate ? "Maa Ja3ala "
                            Please help me by your Pearl - ful thought

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                              Tay
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                              Peace Leo,

                              I see you've backed away from further implicating yourself as God's ambassador. I would think that's a good thing. Moving on...

                              Do you people think that "ma3zallah" God has "FACE " and anyone can "spit on it"
                              This is what is going on ?

                              You should educate yourself on the idea of "figure of speech" before you attempt to express your outrage. It's a waste of your energy. If these are your "pearls" then I'd say it's much to do about nothing.

                              Who is ignorant ?

                              Who is asking?

                              BTW what is the translation of this ayaa?

                              Why don't you start a new thread on the ayah or join a discussion in progress. Let's stay focused.

                              You have asked me for person who has accepted the importance of Hadith.
                              Mr OPF has just quoted a Hadith

                              Many people quote many things. I'd suggest locating a quote where OPF states that he has accepted hadith because of your input. Otherwise, based on your own proclamations, what you've accomplished as God's liason in protecting the qur'an has proven to be falsified.

                              May peace be upon you,
                              Tay

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                                unknownuser
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                                So now, we have

                                • Holy Prophet (PBUH) ordered sheperds to have their eyes branded with hot irons after recommending them to drink camel piss
                                • Holy Prophet (PBUH) flew on Pegasus's bastard offspring to non-existant Al-Aqsa mosque
                                • Allah has a left foot
                                • Holy Prophet had to barter with Allah because Allah was stupid enough to believe humans would pray 50x a day. Moses knew Allah's creation better than Allah.
                                • Holy Prophet worshipped Amun-Ra in his prayers

                                Mashaallah.

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                                  Leoxyz
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                                  Peace Leo,

                                  I see you've backed away from further implicating yourself as God's ambassador. I would think that's a good thing. Moving on...

                                  You should educate yourself on the idea of "figure of speech" before you attempt to express your outrage. It's a waste of your energy. If these are your "pearls" then I'd say it's much to do about nothing.

                                  Who is asking?

                                  Why don't you start a new thread on the ayah or join a discussion in progress. Let's stay focused.

                                  Many people quote many things. I'd suggest locating a quote where OPF states that he has accepted hadith because of your input. Otherwise, based on your own proclamations, what you've accomplished as God's liason in protecting the qur'an has proven to be falsified.

                                  May peace be upon you,
                                  Tay

                                  The Heading of this thread is
                                  "Is this fair to quote it"

                                  And I had given a link below it sayin

                                  Dear
                                  IIdara Tolu-e-Islam quotes "Hadith"
                                  Is this not against the "Eemaan" of Quranists.
                                  http//www.toluislam.com/

                                  Now tell me "Do you believe these Hadiths?""
                                  It is to the point question.

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                                    Leoxyz
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                                    So now, we have

                                    • Holy Prophet (PBUH) ordered sheperds to have their eyes branded with hot irons after recommending them to drink camel piss
                                    • Holy Prophet (PBUH) flew on Pegasus's bastard offspring to non-existant Al-Aqsa mosque
                                    • Allah has a left foot
                                    • Holy Prophet? had to barter with Allah because Allah was stupid enough to believe humans would pray 50x a day. Moses knew Allah's creation better than Allah.
                                    • Holy Prophet? worshipped Amun-Ra in his prayers

                                    Mashaallah.

                                    Do you believe that Holy Prophet who received the Holy Quran could do such thing ??

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                                      Do you believe that Holy Prophet who received the Holy Quran could do such thing ??

                                      A bit more honey and Qur?an, and you are almost there.

                                      http//www.islamicresearch.org/bees%20hidden%20miracle.htm

                                      Stay away from ?fake? honey and get the original good stuff?

                                      http//www.tropicaltraditions.com/organic_raw_honey.htm

                                      peace

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                                        Leoxyz
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                                        A bit more honey and Qur?an, and you are almost there.

                                        http//www.islamicresearch.org/bees%20hidden%20miracle.htm

                                        Stay away from ?fake? honey and get the original good stuff?

                                        http//www.tropicaltraditions.com/organic_raw_honey.htm

                                        peace

                                        I did not understand the pupose of this post.
                                        Would you please give a summary of the this pupose so that I am know.
                                        I will appreciate your "Guidance".
                                        Please it should be in simple words not "Pearls and diamonds"
                                        Thanks

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                                          unknownuser
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                                          I did not understand the pupose of this post.
                                          Would you please give a summary of the this pupose so that I am know.
                                          I will appreciate your "Guidance".
                                          Please it should be in simple words not "Pearls and diamonds"
                                          Thanks

                                          Read!

                                          Al-Kahf (The Cave)>

                                          Luqman (Luqman)>

                                          Az-Zumar (The Groups)>

                                          An-Najm (The Star) >

                                          Al-Waqi'a (The Event) >

                                          Al-Qalam (The Pen) >

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