Earth like an Ostrich Egg or like a Pizza?
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He sent down to you this scripture, containing straightforward verses - which constitute the essence of the scripture - as well as multiple-meaning or allegorical verses. Those who harbor doubts in their hearts will pursue the multiple-meaning verses to create confusion, and to extricate a certain meaning. None knows the true meaning thereof except GOD and those well founded in knowledge. They say, "We believe in this - all of it comes from our Lord." Only those who possess intelligence will take heed.
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Peace.So how exactly do Muslims decide which are the allegorical ones and which are the straightforward ones? Let me see if I can guess. If the verse makes the Quran look good, that is the clear verse. If a verse makes it look bad, that is the mysterious verse. Is that how you do it? How can anybody do something so blatantly subjective and self fulfilling as that and still look at themselves in the mirror as reasonable, intelligent people?
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So how exactly do Muslims decide which are the allegorical ones and which are the straightforward ones? Let me see if I can guess. If the verse makes the Quran look good, that is the clear verse. If a verse makes it look bad, that is the mysterious verse. Is that how you do it? How can anybody do something so blatantly subjective and self fulfilling as that and still look at themselves in the mirror as reasonable, intelligent people?
If a verse tends towards civil law, as opposed to being a parable, or other way, then it's clear. Clear, is clear, but that is a hard concept to swallow, I know...
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So how exactly do Muslims decide which are the allegorical ones and which are the straightforward ones? Let me see if I can guess. If the verse makes the Quran look good, that is the clear verse. If a verse makes it look bad, that is the mysterious verse. Is that how you do it? How can anybody do something so blatantly subjective and self fulfilling as that and still look at themselves in the mirror as reasonable, intelligent people?
It's a divine intervention contracted to the modern special agents of God to offset originality while making sure that the rest of the world's minds, eyes and ears are temporarily sealed. -
If a verse tends towards civil law, as opposed to being a parable, or other way, then it's clear. Clear, is clear, but that is a hard concept to swallow, I know...
Actually, the concept of clear is easy to swallow, but you're written idea about what is clear is hard to follow. But let me see if I can interpret. Do you mean that if a verse is about civil law, then it is a clear verse, and if it is not, then it is a parable, even if it doesn't say it's a parable or suggest that it is figurative by using the words "like" or "as" or "as if"? Hmmmm....can you explain more?
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Who told you that?
A angel with six wings thought to be an ancient pagan goddess who knew the secrets of the heavens. -
Not a very good answer is it. Try again?
What did you expect, Santa Claus coming down from my home's chimney to secretly have a word with me or could it be Jesus in my dreams? -
7930 means that the earth expands, which is scientifically true.
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The earth expanded in the past. There is no problem with that verse.
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That's right, but you tried to make it look like it was speaking of an ongoing process of the earth expanding, when clearly it is not.
He made the earth expand.
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He made the earth expand.
So now your arguemt is answered?Of course not, we're merely back to square one. 7930 says he spread it out. It says nothing about egg shaped. That is a scam. And spread it out matches all of the other verses that speak of this. There are many other verse that speak of this in terms of smoothing out, and flattening out as well as spreading out.
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Of course not, we're merely back to square one. 7930 says he spread it out. It says nothing about egg shaped. That is a scam. And spread it out matches all of the other verses that speak of this. There are many other verse that speak of this in terms of smoothing out, and flattening out as well as spreading out.
It says He has expanded it. Spreading out is the scam.
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It says He has expanded it. Spreading out is the scam.
Well, I can show you many respected translators who disagree with you. But let's go with expanded as to me, there really isn't much difference. So how was the earth "expanded"? Was it "enlarged" or something? Did it grow after it was created? How so?
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Well, I can show you many respected translators who disagree with you.
Again, no priesthood in Islam.
But let's go with expanded as to me, there really isn't much difference.
Again, it means He has expanded it.
So how was the earth "expanded"? Was it "enlarged" or something? Did it grow after it was created? How so?
I believe these sites might shed some light on this topic.
http//www.expanding-earth.org/
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Again, no priesthood in Islam.Again, it means He has expanded it.I believe these sites might shed some light on this topic.
http//www.expanding-earth.org/
http//microlnx.com/expansion/No no. That's "expanding" earth, not expanded earth.. We've already been through that. The expansion was something Allah did in one shot before he sent the rain down, so this isn't going to work. Maybe the earth expanded as it was cooling off? Or, maybe expanding was meant to mean the same thing as spreading out. The two can indeed mean the same thing. Expand can have the same meaning as spread out.
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No no. That's "expanding" earth, not expanded earth.. We've already been through that. The expansion was something Allah did in one shot before he sent the rain down, so this isn't going to work. Maybe the earth expanded as it was cooling off? Or, maybe expanding was meant to mean the same thing as spreading out. The two can indeed mean the same thing. Expand can have the same meaning as spread out.
God has been expanding the earth. No contradiction here.