Earth like an Ostrich Egg or like a Pizza?
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I'm not sure who/what you're referring by "Naik" but the point is there is no meaning of flat in the root, or even in the whole entry
http//www.studyquran.org/LaneLexicon/Volume3/00000023.pdfIt even refers to a swollen/fat pregnant belly/stomach, which is the opposite of what you imply.
What word are you using?
Waalarda baAAda thalika dahaha
See the link above.
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But 7930 does not refer to an ostrich egg at all. That's just a little scam interpretation from Rashad Khalif, the same guy who thought he was a prophet.
Rashad did not translate ostrich egg.
?He made the earth egg-shaped.?
And he never claimed he is prophet but Messenger of Covenant. .and there is enough evidence for such claim.
He sent down to you this scripture, containing straightforward verses - which constitute the essence of the scripture - as well as multiple-meaning or allegorical verses. Those who harbor doubts in their hearts will pursue the multiple-meaning verses to create confusion, and to extricate a certain meaning. None knows the true meaning thereof except GOD and those well founded in knowledge. They say, "We believe in this - all of it comes from our Lord." Only those who possess intelligence will take heed.
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The word is dahaha not dal haa wau. Why do you select a different word? Here are the correct words.
Waalarda baAAda thalika dahaha
Here's, a good Muslim article about it.
http//islamtoday.com/show_detail_section.cfm?q_id=1084&main_cat_id=31"dahaha" is two words daha and which means "it/her" . The verb has the root Dal Haa Wau ( ). If you do not understand the root system, how can you look up a word in a classical Arabic dictionary (or any Arabic dictionary)?
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Rashad did not translate ostrich egg.?He made the earth egg-shaped.?
Same thing. did you read the article i linked? Anyway, he's the only one who translated as "egg shaped". all of the rest of the translators translated "spread out" or something similiar. Not one mention of egg shaped except for him. Ibn Kathir makes no mention of efgg shaped either. Here's his tafsir
http//tafsir.com/default.asp?sid=79&tid=56986
(Is not the One Who created the heavens and the earth, capable of creating the similar to them. Yes, indeed! He is the Supreme Creator, the All-Knowing.) (3681) Then Allah says,
(He constructed) He explains this by His statement,
(He raised its height, and has perfected it.) meaning, He made it a lofty structure, vast in its space, with equal sides, and adorned with stars at night and in the darkness. Then Allah says,
(And after that He spread the earth,) He explains this statement by the statement that follows it,
I don't see any egg shaped statements there in the least. Rashad and others like Naik the Fake are just up to their old tricks again.
And he never claimed he is prophet but Messenger of Covenant. .and there is enough evidence for such claim.
Well, you can go argue with all the Muslims that find him blasphemous because they claim he did indeed claim he was a prophet
He sent down to you this scripture, containing straightforward verses - which constitute the essence of the scripture - as well as multiple-meaning or allegorical verses. Those who harbor doubts in their hearts will pursue the multiple-meaning verses to create confusion, and to extricate a certain meaning.
And that's what I think Rashad and Dadeet and Naik and all of the other clever little scammers are doing
None knows the true meaning thereof except GOD and those well founded in knowledge. They say, "We believe in this - all of it comes from our Lord." Only those who possess intelligence will take heed.
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Peace.That's right, so we don't know what the Quran means, only God does. So why read it if we can't be sure what it means? What kind of an instruction for all times is that?
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He sent down to you this scripture, containing straightforward verses - which constitute the essence of the scripture - as well as multiple-meaning or allegorical verses. Those who harbor doubts in their hearts will pursue the multiple-meaning verses to create confusion, and to extricate a certain meaning. None knows the true meaning thereof except GOD and those well founded in knowledge. They say, "We believe in this - all of it comes from our Lord." Only those who possess intelligence will take heed.
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Peace.So how exactly do Muslims decide which are the allegorical ones and which are the straightforward ones? Let me see if I can guess. If the verse makes the Quran look good, that is the clear verse. If a verse makes it look bad, that is the mysterious verse. Is that how you do it? How can anybody do something so blatantly subjective and self fulfilling as that and still look at themselves in the mirror as reasonable, intelligent people?
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So how exactly do Muslims decide which are the allegorical ones and which are the straightforward ones? Let me see if I can guess. If the verse makes the Quran look good, that is the clear verse. If a verse makes it look bad, that is the mysterious verse. Is that how you do it? How can anybody do something so blatantly subjective and self fulfilling as that and still look at themselves in the mirror as reasonable, intelligent people?
If a verse tends towards civil law, as opposed to being a parable, or other way, then it's clear. Clear, is clear, but that is a hard concept to swallow, I know...
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So how exactly do Muslims decide which are the allegorical ones and which are the straightforward ones? Let me see if I can guess. If the verse makes the Quran look good, that is the clear verse. If a verse makes it look bad, that is the mysterious verse. Is that how you do it? How can anybody do something so blatantly subjective and self fulfilling as that and still look at themselves in the mirror as reasonable, intelligent people?
It's a divine intervention contracted to the modern special agents of God to offset originality while making sure that the rest of the world's minds, eyes and ears are temporarily sealed. -
If a verse tends towards civil law, as opposed to being a parable, or other way, then it's clear. Clear, is clear, but that is a hard concept to swallow, I know...
Actually, the concept of clear is easy to swallow, but you're written idea about what is clear is hard to follow. But let me see if I can interpret. Do you mean that if a verse is about civil law, then it is a clear verse, and if it is not, then it is a parable, even if it doesn't say it's a parable or suggest that it is figurative by using the words "like" or "as" or "as if"? Hmmmm....can you explain more?
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Who told you that?
A angel with six wings thought to be an ancient pagan goddess who knew the secrets of the heavens. -
Not a very good answer is it. Try again?
What did you expect, Santa Claus coming down from my home's chimney to secretly have a word with me or could it be Jesus in my dreams? -
7930 means that the earth expands, which is scientifically true.
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The earth expanded in the past. There is no problem with that verse.
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That's right, but you tried to make it look like it was speaking of an ongoing process of the earth expanding, when clearly it is not.
He made the earth expand.
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He made the earth expand.
So now your arguemt is answered?Of course not, we're merely back to square one. 7930 says he spread it out. It says nothing about egg shaped. That is a scam. And spread it out matches all of the other verses that speak of this. There are many other verse that speak of this in terms of smoothing out, and flattening out as well as spreading out.
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Of course not, we're merely back to square one. 7930 says he spread it out. It says nothing about egg shaped. That is a scam. And spread it out matches all of the other verses that speak of this. There are many other verse that speak of this in terms of smoothing out, and flattening out as well as spreading out.
It says He has expanded it. Spreading out is the scam.
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It says He has expanded it. Spreading out is the scam.
Well, I can show you many respected translators who disagree with you. But let's go with expanded as to me, there really isn't much difference. So how was the earth "expanded"? Was it "enlarged" or something? Did it grow after it was created? How so?