Earth like an Ostrich Egg or like a Pizza?
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I substantiated my claims, you ignored them. That's fine by me.
No, i answered them. And then, you try to swapo out one word with another and you got caught. And then, even the word that you tried to use as a replacement ended up matching my point better than yours. So what again have you answered? Please remind me. Last I checked, everybody is point at "spread ot" except for you, and even you accidently poinrted to "spread out". It doesn't get much clearer than that.
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also means . It's the same exact word.
Same exact word or a different word with the same meaning? Why bother to swap the words out? There is absolutely no good reason to do that except for you trying to pull a fast one. My, how honorable.
I already said it can have more than one meaning. The third definition is "expand". Case closed.
And the first and second said stretched out and spread out. So you botched that one. After all the examination, clearly spread out is the most likely interpretation. But, like someone else said, what''s the big difference anyway? I was willing to let it go, but you decided to force me to address it. Are you happy you did that now?
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Same exact word or a different word with the same meaning? Why bother to swap the words out? There is absolutely no good reason to do that except for you trying to pull a fast one. My, how honorable.
When we want to look for the meaning of a word, we use its root. So they are both the same exact word.
And the first and second said stretched out and spread out. So you botched that one. After all the examination, clearly spread out is the most likely interpretation. But, like someone else said, what''s the big difference anyway? I was willing to let it go, but you decided to force me to address it. Are you happy you did that now?
Whether it means spread out or stretched out makes no difference to me, because the earth is stretching out. That's a scientific fact.
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When we want to look for the meaning of a word, we use its root. So they are both the same exact word.Whether it means spread out or stretched out makes no difference to me, because the earth is stretching out. That's a scientific fact.
Yes, but the Quran didn't say it is stretching out. The Quran says it was stretched out, and then, after it was stretched, the waters came down.
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Yes, but the Quran didn't say it is stretching out. The Quran says it was stretched out, and then, after it was stretched, the waters came down.
It has been stretching out/expanding. This is to do with Arabic grammar.
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No, i answered them. And then, you try to swapo out one word with another and you got caught. And then, even the word that you tried to use as a replacement ended up matching my point better than yours. So what again have you answered? Please remind me. Last I checked, everybody is point at "spread ot" except for you, and even you accidently poinrted to "spread out". It doesn't get much clearer than that.
I have answered your claims back too. In Arabic, many words can have more than one meaning. I pointed to you that
can mean to expand
And even it means, to stretch out/spread out (Which I do not agree with), it should nor make a difference because science substantiates it. -
I have answered your claims back too. In Arabic, many words can have more than one meaning. I pointed to you that
can mean to expand
And even it means, to stretch out/spread out (Which I do not agree with), it should nor make a difference because science substantiates it.Every single time, spread out comes out at the top of the list. Most frequently used by the translators, and the first definition in both the definitions I provided, and the ones you provide. Seems pretty clear. Like I said, you just had to push the envelope, didn't you. I was ready to let it go as expand, if it progressed the conversation, but you insisted that I dump on you. You asked me to. And now, you opened up the can of worms of dahaha having two other definitions besides spread out. They are level, and level off. Woooo, getting creepily close to "flat". You should see the other verses that all say the same basic thing.
So let's use you logic.
Your definition of that other word that's not even in the verse says
- stretched out
- spread out
- expanded
And you say, that for some reason, we should pick definition number three. OK
So, here's the definition of the actual word that was used
- spread out
- leveled
- leveled off
So, let's use your logic, and ignore the first two, and pick number three. Heh, Allah leveled the earth off. Hmmmm.....starts to sound a little like flattened out to me.
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I have answered your claims back too. In Arabic, many words can have more than one meaning. I pointed to you that
can mean to expand
And even it means, to stretch out/spread out (Which I do not agree with), it should nor make a difference because science substantiates it.Dahaha, the actual word that is used, is a past tense verb.
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Every single time, spread out comes out at the top of the list. Most frequently used by the translators, and the first definition in both the definitions I provided, and the ones you provide. Seems pretty clear. Like I said, you just had to push the envelope, didn't you. I was ready to let it go as expand, if it progressed the conversation, but you insisted that I dump on you. You asked me to. And now, you opened up the can of worms of dahaha having two other definitions besides spread out. They are level, and level off. Woooo, getting creepily close to "flat". You should see the other verses that all say the same basic thing.
So let's use you logic.
Your definition of that other word that's not even in the verse says
- stretched out
- spread out
- expanded
And you say, that for some reason, we should pick definition number three. OK
So, here's the definition of the actual word that was used
- spread out
- leveled
- leveled off
So, let's use your logic, and ignore the first two, and pick number three. Heh, Allah leveled the earth off. Hmmmm.....starts to sound a little like flattened out to me.
Again, A word can have more than one meaning.
can mean- to stretch out
- to spread out
- to expand
Both 3 definitions are compatible with science. I personally go with to expand/enlarge.
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Dahaha, the actual word that is used, is a past tense verb.
It's in the present perfect tense.
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Prove it. Everybody else says it's past tense.
Present perfect tenses are written like past tenses in Arabic. And does it really matter? Whether past ot present perfect does not matter as both are compatible with science.
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Present perfect tenses are written like past tenses in Arabic. And does it really matter? Whether past ot present perfect does not matter as both are compatible with science.
Yes, it does matter, because one states that the expanding is an action that God performed in the beginning before he sent the rain down and therefore conflicts with the invention you are attempting, and the other one refers to God continually expanding, so that it can be twisted to match science. So yes, it matters a lot, and I asked you to substantiate, and you didn't. So I'll assume it was nothing more than yet another attempt of a deceptive diversion.
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Yes, it does matter, because one states that the expanding is an action that God performed in the beginning before he sent the rain down and therefore conflicts with the invention you are attempting,
Earth expanded in the past.
and the other one refers to God continually expanding, so that it can be twisted to match science.
Both match science.
So yes, it matters a lot, and I asked you to substantiate, and you didn't.
Let me repeat it again, in Arabic, present perfect tenses are written like past tenses.
So I'll assume it was nothing more than yet another attempt of a deceptive diversion.
This is all you have got, assumptions and insults.
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Earth expanded in the past. Both match science.Let me repeat it again, in Arabic, present perfect tenses are written like past tenses.
Why didn't one single translator, not one, translate this as present perfect? Again, you are inventing anything you can think of to try and throw at the problem, but others don't concur with you. In fact, nobody does. But, then again, you're the guy who writes his own Quran and Arabic dictionary.
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Why didn't one single translator, not one, translate this as present perfect? Again, you are inventing anything you can think of to try and throw at the problem, but others don't concur with you. In fact, nobody does. But, then again, you're the guy who writes his own Quran and Arabic dictionary.
"And the earth, moreover, hath He extended (to a wide expanse);" Yusuf Ali.
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"And the earth, moreover, hath He extended (to a wide expanse);" Yusuf Ali.
It is not in past tense here. You are deliberately lying.It says extended, not continuing to extend. Why are we suppose to think this means continuing to extend excepot for the fact that this is what you need it to say? It's not there.
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It says extended, not continuing to extend. Why are we suppose to think this means continuing to extend excepot for the fact that this is what you need it to say? It's not there.
It says "has extended" not "extended".
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Has he extended. That's past.
He has extended is past?