How do you pray?
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Thanks.
It is a noun ;D
2.238. Guard strictly your prayers, especially the Wusta Prayer; and stand before God in a devout (frame of mind).
However salawaat is plural. Meaning more than two. It did not say salatayn, meaning the 2 salaat.
So how do you explain this?
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2.238. Guard strictly your prayers, especially the Wusta Prayer; and stand before God in a devout (frame of mind).
However salawaat is plural. Meaning more than two. It did not say salatayn, meaning the 2 salaat.
So how do you explain this?
Taking into consideration the day of the congregational salaat, where we have three salaats, it cannot mean your daily salaat.
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Taking into consideration the day of the congregational salaat, where we have three salaats, it cannot mean your daily salaat.
So you do believe that wusta means friday prayers? Or you just believe that the plural is about the congregation prayers?
Whats your view, if I may ask, about congregation prayers?
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So you do believe that wusta means friday prayers? Or you just believe that the plural is about the congregation prayers?
Whats your view, if I may ask, about congregation prayers?
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I was replying as to why it is "salawaat plural" and not "salaatain dual".
I believe wusta is moderate. -
I believe it is a salaat that's performed by a group and has to be given priority over work.
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Peace,
who said that the Quran says that you have to bow and prostrate? The only thing I see that the Quran IMPLIES that we do when we pray is to kneel or bow in some way. So I can't answer that pole because none of it applies to me. Somtimes I make the movements like i did when I was a Sunni, but just praise God and meditate on him, saying Allahu Akbaru at every change and some times I just kneel down a pray. I let all that prescribed lines alone along time ago. I pray at least twice a day at dawn including the twilight and at dusk including twilight including the adjoining times of night. I pray within these time ranges (beginning of day and end of day). But I think that pole should be redone and should state whether anyone prays whoever they want traditional movements and sayings or not as long as they are praying to God.
Godbless,
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Peace to all,
Progod, actually the Quran does say many times to prostrate and pray, not just kneel or bow, prostrate means to fall to the ground with your face on the floor.
Heres an articles with some verse about prostrating in the Quran.
http//aaiil.org/text/hq/art/others/prostrate.shtml
Kurt
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I was replying as to why it is "salawaat plural" and not "salaatain dual".
I believe wusta is moderate. -
I believe it is a salaat that's performed by a group and has to be given priority over work.
What do you think of this analysis
Note that ( ى in (Sura Al-Baqarah 223 and ( ) in (Sura Al-Isra 177 are the same "Salat" because these both ?Salat? has (ل common with them indicating that these are the same ?Salat? as compared to ( ِ and ( ِ which are without (ل with word (ِ. (ل in Arabic is equivalent to the word ?The? in English, indicating the importance of the middle prayer.
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What do you think of this analysis
Note that ( ى in (Sura Al-Baqarah 223 and ( ) in (Sura Al-Isra 177 are the same "Salat" because these both ?Salat? has (ل common with them indicating that these are the same ?Salat? as compared to ( ِ and ( ِ which are without (ل with word (ِ. (ل in Arabic is equivalent to the word ?The? in English, indicating the importance of the middle prayer.
Which "BOOK" is more definite in these three phrases
The BOOK
The History BOOK
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Peace all,
Progod, actually the Quran does say many times to prostrate and pray, not just kneel or bow, prostrate means to fall to the ground with your face on the floor.
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pray = dua, salaat is entirely something else. Even the birds know their 'salaat' (2441)
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If prostrate was limited to what you are suggesting the proper 'sujjud' would be falling to the chin, not the face (17107).
I'll give you some examples of how sujjud=traditionally translated as 'prostrate as in to fall down on to your forehead' cannot possibly fit
258 And We said "Enter this town, and eat from it as plentifully as you wish. And enter the passageway by crouching (sujjadan), and say "Our load is removed," so that your errors will be forgiven, and We will increase for the good doers."
1315 And to God prostrate (yasjudu) all who are in the heavens and the Earth, willingly and unwillingly, as do their shadows in the morning and the evening.
1649 And to God prostrate (yasjudu) all those in the heavens and all those on the Earth, from the creatures as well as the angels, and they are not arrogant.
2218 Did you not see that to God prostrates (yasjudu) what is in the heavens and what is in the Earth, and the sun and the moon and the stars and the mountains and the trees and what moves, and many of the people, and many who have deserved the retribution. And whoever God disgraces, then none can honor him. God does what He pleases.
Be weary of articles, the linked article was far from objective. Nor did it display any arabic. Many articles, even at this site can be misleading. Do the proper research yourself. Remember 1736
The tools I use to study are
http//www.islamicity.com/QuranSearch/
http//www.submission.org/quran/webqt.php
http//www.studyquran.co.uk/PRLonline.htm
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Peace,
Only kharra lil-adhqaani can imply prostration. However it is literally falling to ones chin! Adhqaan is the plural of chin or beard. When you prostrate do you prostrate on your chin? Furthermore those verses that mention that mention the reaction of the faithful to the message. No one literally falls to their chins! This is obviously an expression. If we are going to look at it literally the word can only mean 'to fall to your chin' in whch case I can only image someonee sitting down holding their chins in through or awe.
Also sajada can mean to prostrate or to venerate. I think from its usage in the Quran its primary meaning is to venerate and that the old way of doing this was to prostrate. Especially considering that masjid is a place of veneration can apply to any place of worship. So honestly I think that the real meaning here is the veneration, as well as the bowing or even prostration in veneration. In my eyes all of these count. and raka&a is the real command to bow or kneel with no ambiguities.
Godbless,
Anwar -
Peace to all,
I understand what your saying progod, i have no problem with anyone who doesnt actually prostrate themselves physically, i myslef do it and believe its important but thats just me, i feel need to submit myslef physically not just mentally, also doesnt a verse in the Quran say that you will see the marks of the submitters on their foreheads because of their prostration, this cant be metaphorical too can it.
PICKTHAL Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves. Thou (O Muhammad) seest them bowing and falling prostrate (in worship), seeking bounty from Allah and (His) acceptance. The mark of them is on their foreheads from the traces of prostration. Such is their likeness in the Torah and their likeness in the Gospel - like as sown corn that sendeth forth its shoot and strengtheneth it and riseth firm upon its stalk, delighting the sowers - that He may enrage the disbelievers with (the sight of) them. Allah hath promised, unto such of them as believe and do good works, forgiveness and immense reward.
Kurt
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Peace,
I hate to say but yes this can also be literal or metaphorical. wajh does not necessarily have to be face. the Quran uses wajhun sometimes more like selves or souls. The verse literally says "seemaa hum fee wujoohihim min athari sujoodihim"
If you look up marks in a Quran search and see seemaa this doesn't have to be physical mark, it can also be a characteristic. Wajh as i explain can be face, countenance or self/soul and sujood veneration. Is it possible to see the marks/characteristics of worship/veneration in a a person or even in his face when you come across him. Very possible. Especially since the sentence before that is 'taraa hum rukka&an sujjadan yabtighoona fadlan min allahi wa ridwaan' This is indicating that you will see the signs and affect of worship on them when you see them bowing and worshipping.' I can't really even add to that, and I don't think I should have to .
Godbless,
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= Waw-Jiim-ha = to face/encounter/confront, face, will, course/purpose/object one is pursuing, place/direction one is going/looking, way of a thing, consideration/regard.
wajh n.m. (pl. wujuh) 2112, 2115, 2144, 2144, 2144, 2149, 2150, 2150, 2177, 2272, 320, 372, 3106, 3106, 3106, 3107, 443, 447, 4125, 56, 56, 5108, 652, 679, 729, 850, 1026, 1027, 10105, 129, 1293, 1296, 1322, 1450, 1658, 177, 1797, 1828, 1829, 20111, 2139, 2211, 2272, 23104, 2534, 2790, 2888, 3030, 3038, 3039, 3043, 3122, 3366, 3924, 3960, 4317, 4727, 4829, 5129, 5448, 5527, 6722, 6727, 7522, 7524, 769, 8038, 8040, 8324, 882, 888, 9220wajih n.m. (adj) 345, 3369
wijhah n.f. 2148
wajjaha vb. (2) perf. act. 679
impf. act. 1676tawajjaha vb. (5) perf. act. 2822
Lane's Lexicon, Volume 8, pages 304, 305
From http//www.studyquran.co.uk/PRLonline.htm
