In Honey there is Healing
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Peace,
i wouldn't encourage anybody to eat too much of it
Can you tell me of a substance that you can eat 'too much' of and not danger your health?
There are tons of better things then honey, but the fact is that was the only thing they new so they stuck it in the translation.
They? Fact? What are your source(s) (and/or proofs) that it shouldn't be translated as honey? There's a lot of conjecture/guesswork in your statement(s).
The ayah's are telling people to follow in the tracks of those most successfull in life- thus prosper, and the world doing so mainly in the west and far east are doing well indeed- unlike the lovers of honey.
Who are the 'lovers of honey'? ???
peace
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I must be in the wrong place, I assumed this was an logic/evidence-based discussion.
Come on Br - logic and evidence are there for the takers/ for the open minded, No?
However saying that all No amount of logic and evidence can convince Hindus not to take piss as holy or for the Muslims to be shown pig meat or strong drink are like other foods ,No .
Logic and evidence are there in the pges of the quran if you look.
God Bless.
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Peace,
Can you tell me of a substance that you can eat 'too much' of and not danger your health?
you are not series- with your ability, you yourself can find loads of things Br, Come on.
If not then i will point you to a few.
They? Fact? What are your source(s) (and/or proofs) that it shouldn't be translated as honey? There's a lot of conjecture/guesswork in your statement(s).
True why shouldn't it be translated as honey- simply because there where other things in Gods creation better things then honey , why not talk about them?
Who are the 'lovers of honey'? ???
peace
Those Muslims who god knows why think its the greatest thing given to them by God- simply because it is mentioned in there translation.
God Bless.
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Hi,
Last thing i would like to say is if you do become diabetic , Honey is even more dangerous then sugar - so be wise.
http//www.mayoclinic.com/health/diabetes/AN00425
And don't simply take it as The Food from God as all foods are from God peace.
http//blog.americanfeast.com/
God Bless.
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Hi,
Last thing i would like to say is if you do become diabetic , Honey is even more dangerous then sugar - so be wise.
http//www.mayoclinic.com/health/diabetes/AN00425
This does not show by any means that honey is more dangerous for diabetics. On the contrary. It shows it is better, albeit slightly better.
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Peace buddy.
If not then i will point you to a few.
Go ahead, I asked you for a reason.
True why shouldn't it be translated as honey- simply because there where other things in Gods creation better things then honey , why not talk about them?
I think you get into a lot of trouble this way; when you start translating quran or any book based on what you WANT to see or read about. We have to translate quran (or any other book! ) for what it says. Quran can't win either way, it could've talked about something else and somebody else would've said 'hey why doesn't it talk about honey!'. As for there being other creations of God being better than honey - that's subjective. That's your opinion, and here's mine.
I believe there are many reasons why honeybees and honey are just amazing. Do you realize that without honeybees we would lose many, if not all of our plants? Because honeybees when they collect pollen they transfer pollen from one plant to another, enabling them to produce seeds. This process is known as pollination.
Last thing i would like to say is if you do become diabetic , Honey is even more dangerous then sugar - so be wise.
Not true. First, the 'sugar' you buy at the grocery store is processed,refined and has no nutritional value period. You are making your body work for nothing! Think about this... Honey does have some nutritional value in addition to being an anti-microbial. But like everything else it should only be consumed in moderation. It's definitely a much better alternative to regular 'sugar'. And especially because it's a sugar it shouldn't be consumed all the time. And it's 77% sugar.
Those Muslims who god knows why think its the greatest thing given to them by God- simply because it is mentioned in there translation.
First, muslims is not a proper noun. Second, which muslims think it's the greatest thing? And so what?
And don't simply take it as The Food from God as all foods are from God
Yes. Who said that it's 'food from God'? I think we are talking about how what the quran says about honey and honeybees is absolutely consistent with reality. What's the crime here?
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Dear DA,
Yes. Who said that it's 'food from God'? I think we are talking about how what the quran says about honey and honeybees is absolutely consistent with reality. What's the crime here?
The greatest crime given to Muslims and not muslims is everything in the quran that is showing them ways to get ahead, prosper, do better so they can get to pinnacles of glory has/ was turned into honey bees or animals or birds or mountains or stars in the said quran and so the methodology was hidden away which it still is because people still believe these things are honey bees or animals or birds or mountains, when they aren't at all. And Muslims are now learning from other nation how they can get ahead - when really its all in their quran but Mistranslated - use a dictionary and your intellect and i think you will see likewise.
Thanks for the effort but you really need a classic Arabic dictionary and your intellect Br and not the traditional followers of which we were all once.
God Bless.
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To clarify, proving there are things better than honey at XYZ is irrelevant, unless one is implying AQ states honey is best at XYZ.
A person making irrelevant points is usually not considered to be using their intellect.
And i thought the quran does depict honey as one of the best!
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YUSUFALI (Here is) a Parable of the Garden which the righteous are promised in it are rivers of water incorruptible; rivers of milk of which the taste never changes; rivers of wine, a joy to those who drink; and rivers of honey pure and clear. In it there are for them all kinds of fruits; and Grace from their Lord. (Can those in such Bliss) be compared to such as shall dwell for ever in the Fire, and be given, to drink, boiling water, so that it cuts up their bowels (to pieces)?Otherwise why would it be in heaven??
And you are using your god given intellect!
God Bless.
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And i thought the quran does depict honey as one of the best!
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YUSUFALI (Here is) a Parable of the Garden which the righteous are promised in it are rivers of water incorruptible; rivers of milk of which the taste never changes; rivers of wine, a joy to those who drink; and rivers of honey pure and clear. In it there are for them all kinds of fruits; and Grace from their Lord. (Can those in such Bliss) be compared to such as shall dwell for ever in the Fire, and be given, to drink, boiling water, so that it cuts up their bowels (to pieces)?Otherwise why would it be in heaven??
And you are using your god given intellect!
God Bless.
Why would water be in heaven?
brickwall
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And i thought the quran does depict honey as one of the best!
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YUSUFALI (Here is) a Parable of the Garden which the righteous are promised in it are rivers of water incorruptible; rivers of milk of which the taste never changes; rivers of wine, a joy to those who drink; and rivers of honey pure and clear. In it there are for them all kinds of fruits; and Grace from their Lord. (Can those in such Bliss) be compared to such as shall dwell for ever in the Fire, and be given, to drink, boiling water, so that it cuts up their bowels (to pieces)?Otherwise why would it be in heaven??
And you are using your god given intellect!
God Bless.
4715 Mathalu (i.e. similitude) ?
1 a COUNTERPART, DOUBLE b a visible likeness IMAGE
2 an imaginative comparison SIMILE
3 a correspondence in kind or quality b a point of comparisonThis seems interesting? 15 lb. pail Now $119.99!
http//www.tropicaltraditions.com/organic_raw_honey.htm
http//www.tropicaltraditions.com/images/organic%20raw%20honey%20gallon.jpg
I?m inspired to go have some honey; Qur?an and honey go well together. ;D <--- sweet tooth
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Salaams Nun,All,
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YUSUFALI (Here is) a Parable of the Garden which the righteous are promised in it are rivers of water incorruptible; rivers of milk of which the taste never changes; rivers of wine, a joy to those who drink; and rivers of honey pure and clear. In it there are for them all kinds of fruits; and Grace from their Lord. (Can those in such Bliss) be compared to such as shall dwell for ever in the Fire, and be given, to drink, boiling water, so that it cuts up their bowels (to pieces)?Very good of you to point that out- funny who I painted the picture for though couldn?t see that.
Of course as a parable something as sweet as honey is perfect.
But my point is still that the following ayah is nothing at all to do with honey or honey bees;
PICKTHAL And thy Lord inspired the bee, saying Choose thou habitations in the hills and in the trees and in that which they thatch;
Bees don?t live in mountains or trees but do live in what they themselves build.
But each to his understanding.
God Bless All.
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PICKTHAL And thy Lord inspired the bee, saying Choose thou habitations in the hills and in the trees and in that which they thatch;
Bees don?t live in mountains or trees but do live in what they themselves build.
But each to his understanding.
God Bless All.
Do I live in a city ? nope I live in a house which i got build. ;D
siki
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Salaams Nun,All,
Very good of you to point that out- funny who I painted the picture for though couldn?t see that.
Of course as a parable something as sweet as honey is perfect.
But my point is still that the following ayah is nothing at all to do with honey or honey bees;
PICKTHAL And thy Lord inspired the bee, saying Choose thou habitations in the hills and in the trees and in that which they thatch;
Bees don?t live in mountains or trees but do live in what they themselves build.
But each to his understanding.
God Bless All.
http//www.matrifocus.com/LAM07/images/hive.gif
People see what they want to see, I wonder if you're going to start counting 19...
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Salaams Siki, OP,
So do they only build on trees and mountains then?
using normal traditional word for word translation
1668 and inspired your lord to the bee that take you from the mountains houses and in the trees and in what they erect.
don't they sound as alternatives,
God Bless.
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http//www.urbanext.uiuc.edu/hortihints/0306d.html
Hehe, reminds me of a childhood experience. Note to self Flinging mud at certain trees hurts.
Another one. It's not in English (;D) but readable
http//www.springerlink.com/content/nhla81kty5xn9d3d/
And more (again, not in English)
http//www.apidologie.org/index.php?option=article&access=doi&doi=10.1051/apido2000117
So are you going to carry on trying to twist the quran because it doesn't conform to your world views or just stop and accept that god has more knowledge? I didn't even know bees existed on mountains in south africa but I wouldn't say the quran is deficient. It's as if you want to strip the quran of all its falsifiability.
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http//www.urbanext.uiuc.edu/hortihints/0306d.html
Hehe, reminds me of a childhood experience. Note to self Flinging mud at certain trees hurts.
Another one. It's not in English (;D) but readable
http//www.springerlink.com/content/nhla81kty5xn9d3d/
And more (again, not in English)
http//www.apidologie.org/index.php?option=article&access=doi&doi=10.1051/apido2000117
So are you going to carry on trying to twist the quran because it doesn't conform to your world views or just stop and accept that god has more knowledge? I didn't even know bees existed on mountains in south africa but I wouldn't say the quran is deficient. It's as if you want to strip the quran of all its falsifiability.
Sorry Br,
that wasn't my translation but done by your traditionalist scholars, i only changed the word Bayute for houses as used in the rest of the quran.
That is done in " NOBLE QURAN word for word by DARRUSSALAM"
Salaams.
