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Why were these unique versions of the Qur'an later destroyed by fire?

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    Tay
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    Peace Bahman,

    If the qur'an in my house was glowing with inner light, if it levitated to my desk whenever I sat down, and the pages turned automatically, and it had it's own built-in soundtrack that was different every day, yet the text I was reading was completely impractical and of no use, I wouldn't bother with it.

    The authenticity of the text reveals itself through the application of the guidance within. I need no more than that. And if someone asked me what proof I had, I would say, "none", except my word.

    Peace,
    Tay

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      What is your proof that Quran is protected?

      I have a radical approach what does AQ say about this topic?

      NB AQ = al quran = the reading

      All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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        Apply scientific method
        -Experiment what it says
        -See the results
        If the results are same as AQ claims, it proves everything otherwise nothing, in both cases code19 is useless.

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          Not to mention, you took your information from a crackpot christian advocacy site that supposedly uses the "Einstein method" to prove christianity.

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            belH
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            Peace
            I googled "why original quran was burned"
            and response was
            Results 1 - 10 of about 1,040,000 for why original quran was burned. (0.04 seconds)
            This was second oee
            http//www.harvardhouse.com/quran_purity.htm
            My response to 1,040,000 is this
            What is your response to such question.
            What is your proof that Quran is protected?
            Peace.

            My proof is this

            We have, without doubt sent down the Message; and We will assuredly guard it (from corruption). (15-9)

            If you believe that God is not capable to Guard his Book, thus, you are disbelieving what he said in the above verse, and disbelieving the verses that states that he fulfills his promises.
            If you are trying to create doubts regarding the Quran or the Bible or the Old Testament, you are challenging God by misleading his creatures. tempt

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              Tay
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              Peace belalhammad,

              If you believe that God is not capable to Guard his Book, thus, you are disbelieving what he said in the above verse, and disbelieving the verses that states that he fulfills his promises.

              That does not prove that the book was inspired by God, by any means.
              One can believe God is capable of anything/everything, yet still believe the text he/she is reading is not inspired by God. Someone can write, "God promises to protect my bicycle - believe in this if you are truthful/sincere." That doesn't automaitcally make it from God.

              Peace,
              Tay

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                belH
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                Peace belalhammad,

                That does not prove that the book was inspired by God, by any means.
                One can believe God is capable of anything/everything, yet still believe the text he/she is reading is not inspired by God. Someone can write, "God promises to protect my bicycle - believe in this if you are truthful/sincere." That doesn't automaitcally make it from God.

                Peace,
                Tay

                Peace Tay
                My answer was for the second question, what is your proof that the quran is protected? But the propaganda that the Quran was burned can be answerd by the same answer I answered for the second Question. Simply, because God promised that he will protect the Quran.
                But if the question was, what is your proof that the Quran is the words of God? Then my answer would be to provide scientific proofs. (There are thousands of scientific tests for the quran that can be found in the internet).

                Peace

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                  Peace belalhammad
                  If people don't want to believe the Quran is from God that is their choice. It is not our job to convince people otherwise.

                  1330 And as such, We have sent you to a nation as other nations that have come before, so that you may recite to them that which has been inspired to you; while they are still rejecting the Almighty. Say "He is my Lord, there is no god but He, in Him I place my trust and to Him is my repentance."
                  1331 And if a compilation were to be used to move mountains, or to slice the Earth, or the dead were spoken to with it. No, to God is all matters. Did not those who believe know that if God wished He would have guided all the people? As for those who reject, they continue to be stricken with disaster or it comes near to their homes, until God's promise comes true. God does not break the appointment.

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                    Peace belalhammad
                    If people don't want to believe the Quran is from God that is their choice. It is not our job to convince people otherwise.

                    1330 And as such, We have sent you to a nation as other nations that have come before, so that you may recite to them that which has been inspired to you; while they are still rejecting the Almighty. Say "He is my Lord, there is no god but He, in Him I place my trust and to Him is my repentance."
                    1331 And if a compilation were to be used to move mountains, or to slice the Earth, or the dead were spoken to with it. No, to God is all matters. Did not those who believe know that if God wished He would have guided all the people? As for those who reject, they continue to be stricken with disaster or it comes near to their homes, until God's promise comes true. God does not break the appointment.

                    Peace
                    I try as much as I can to not talk in such topics; but sometimes I cannot help it rotfl
                    Forgive me,
                    Peace peace

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                      AlFajr
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                      Peace
                      rotfl No need to ask for my forgiveness. I was just reminding you.

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                        belH
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                        Peace
                        rotfl No need to ask for my forgiveness. I was just reminding you.

                        Peace, and may God Bless you. group

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                          AlFajr
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                          Peace, and may God Bless you. group

                          Peace,
                          God Bless group

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                            Bahman
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                            Peace
                            Are you denying this?
                            Peace.

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                              Bahman
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                              Peace
                              nonbody has answered the question
                              Was Quran burnt?
                              Why?
                              and if not burnt where is it?
                              Peace

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                                Bahman
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                                Peace,
                                God Bless group

                                Peace
                                You Grouping back to where you were parents belief. nope rotfl
                                Peace

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                                  Bahman
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                                  Not to mention, you took your information from a crackpot christian advocacy site that supposedly uses the "Einstein method" to prove christianity.

                                  Peace.
                                  There are over bliion files about Burning Quran. I tried the second one and the article refers to Hadith stories which exist unless you deny Hadith and say that Quran never burnt. So what happened to original then.
                                  Yopu may know the story in your way. I am intersted you and others instead of rnning into bush just answer the question
                                  Was Quran Burnt?
                                  Peace

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                                    I was told and have read that Uthmann burned the Quran because there were many variations. He ordered all copies sent to him so he could go through them and find the right ones. He burned the rest.

                                    Some say the Quran was meant to be memorized, until there was a big battle and so many of those who had memorized the Quran were killed - it was feared verses were lost.

                                    Many Muslims support the idea that the very originals were supposedly written on leaves, bones, whatever could be written on.

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                                      There are over bliion files about Burning Quran.

                                      I typed "code 19 is false" into google and got over 2.7 million files, what does that mean?

                                      Out of curiousity, is the evidence/argument you are bringing conform to Quranic criteria or does that not matter? rotfl

                                      All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                                        I was told and have read that Uthmann burned the Quran because there were many variations. He ordered all copies sent to him so he could go through them and find the right ones. He burned the rest.

                                        Some say the Quran was meant to be memorized, until there was a big battle and so many of those who had memorized the Quran were killed - it was feared verses were lost.

                                        Many Muslims support the idea that the very originals were supposedly written on leaves, bones, whatever could be written on.

                                        Another false hadith in El-bukari.

                                        I typed "code 19 is false" into google and got over 2.7 million files, what does that mean?

                                        Out of curiousity, is the evidence/argument you are bringing conform to Quranic criteria or does that not matter? rotfl

                                        rotfl rotfl

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                                          Bahman
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                                          I typed "code 19 is false" into google and got over 2.7 million files, what does that mean?

                                          Out of curiousity, is the evidence/argument you are bringing conform to Quranic criteria or does that not matter? rotfl

                                          Peace.
                                          Those billions file either for Burning Quran or Code 19 do not mean all are pro or against.
                                          I did not want to go trough so many files and first one I study I notice so many Hadith reports about it.
                                          When you ask where God authored number 19 I say 7430
                                          When I ask you simply Y Q Burned ?
                                          If you know just give straight forward answer?
                                          Was it Burned?
                                          If yes then Y?
                                          And what is your source either for burning or not burning ?
                                          7431
                                          Peace.
                                          rotfl

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