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Why were these unique versions of the Qur'an later destroyed by fire?

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    Tay
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    Peace belalhammad,

    If you believe that God is not capable to Guard his Book, thus, you are disbelieving what he said in the above verse, and disbelieving the verses that states that he fulfills his promises.

    That does not prove that the book was inspired by God, by any means.
    One can believe God is capable of anything/everything, yet still believe the text he/she is reading is not inspired by God. Someone can write, "God promises to protect my bicycle - believe in this if you are truthful/sincere." That doesn't automaitcally make it from God.

    Peace,
    Tay

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      Peace belalhammad,

      That does not prove that the book was inspired by God, by any means.
      One can believe God is capable of anything/everything, yet still believe the text he/she is reading is not inspired by God. Someone can write, "God promises to protect my bicycle - believe in this if you are truthful/sincere." That doesn't automaitcally make it from God.

      Peace,
      Tay

      Peace Tay
      My answer was for the second question, what is your proof that the quran is protected? But the propaganda that the Quran was burned can be answerd by the same answer I answered for the second Question. Simply, because God promised that he will protect the Quran.
      But if the question was, what is your proof that the Quran is the words of God? Then my answer would be to provide scientific proofs. (There are thousands of scientific tests for the quran that can be found in the internet).

      Peace

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        Peace belalhammad
        If people don't want to believe the Quran is from God that is their choice. It is not our job to convince people otherwise.

        1330 And as such, We have sent you to a nation as other nations that have come before, so that you may recite to them that which has been inspired to you; while they are still rejecting the Almighty. Say "He is my Lord, there is no god but He, in Him I place my trust and to Him is my repentance."
        1331 And if a compilation were to be used to move mountains, or to slice the Earth, or the dead were spoken to with it. No, to God is all matters. Did not those who believe know that if God wished He would have guided all the people? As for those who reject, they continue to be stricken with disaster or it comes near to their homes, until God's promise comes true. God does not break the appointment.

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          Peace belalhammad
          If people don't want to believe the Quran is from God that is their choice. It is not our job to convince people otherwise.

          1330 And as such, We have sent you to a nation as other nations that have come before, so that you may recite to them that which has been inspired to you; while they are still rejecting the Almighty. Say "He is my Lord, there is no god but He, in Him I place my trust and to Him is my repentance."
          1331 And if a compilation were to be used to move mountains, or to slice the Earth, or the dead were spoken to with it. No, to God is all matters. Did not those who believe know that if God wished He would have guided all the people? As for those who reject, they continue to be stricken with disaster or it comes near to their homes, until God's promise comes true. God does not break the appointment.

          Peace
          I try as much as I can to not talk in such topics; but sometimes I cannot help it rotfl
          Forgive me,
          Peace peace

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            AlFajr
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            Peace
            rotfl No need to ask for my forgiveness. I was just reminding you.

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              belH
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              Peace
              rotfl No need to ask for my forgiveness. I was just reminding you.

              Peace, and may God Bless you. group

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                AlFajr
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                Peace, and may God Bless you. group

                Peace,
                God Bless group

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                  Bahman
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                  Peace
                  Are you denying this?
                  Peace.

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                    Bahman
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                    Peace
                    nonbody has answered the question
                    Was Quran burnt?
                    Why?
                    and if not burnt where is it?
                    Peace

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                      Bahman
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                      Peace,
                      God Bless group

                      Peace
                      You Grouping back to where you were parents belief. nope rotfl
                      Peace

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                        Bahman
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                        Not to mention, you took your information from a crackpot christian advocacy site that supposedly uses the "Einstein method" to prove christianity.

                        Peace.
                        There are over bliion files about Burning Quran. I tried the second one and the article refers to Hadith stories which exist unless you deny Hadith and say that Quran never burnt. So what happened to original then.
                        Yopu may know the story in your way. I am intersted you and others instead of rnning into bush just answer the question
                        Was Quran Burnt?
                        Peace

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                          I was told and have read that Uthmann burned the Quran because there were many variations. He ordered all copies sent to him so he could go through them and find the right ones. He burned the rest.

                          Some say the Quran was meant to be memorized, until there was a big battle and so many of those who had memorized the Quran were killed - it was feared verses were lost.

                          Many Muslims support the idea that the very originals were supposedly written on leaves, bones, whatever could be written on.

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                            Wakas
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                            There are over bliion files about Burning Quran.

                            I typed "code 19 is false" into google and got over 2.7 million files, what does that mean?

                            Out of curiousity, is the evidence/argument you are bringing conform to Quranic criteria or does that not matter? rotfl

                            All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                              I was told and have read that Uthmann burned the Quran because there were many variations. He ordered all copies sent to him so he could go through them and find the right ones. He burned the rest.

                              Some say the Quran was meant to be memorized, until there was a big battle and so many of those who had memorized the Quran were killed - it was feared verses were lost.

                              Many Muslims support the idea that the very originals were supposedly written on leaves, bones, whatever could be written on.

                              Another false hadith in El-bukari.

                              I typed "code 19 is false" into google and got over 2.7 million files, what does that mean?

                              Out of curiousity, is the evidence/argument you are bringing conform to Quranic criteria or does that not matter? rotfl

                              rotfl rotfl

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                                Bahman
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                                I typed "code 19 is false" into google and got over 2.7 million files, what does that mean?

                                Out of curiousity, is the evidence/argument you are bringing conform to Quranic criteria or does that not matter? rotfl

                                Peace.
                                Those billions file either for Burning Quran or Code 19 do not mean all are pro or against.
                                I did not want to go trough so many files and first one I study I notice so many Hadith reports about it.
                                When you ask where God authored number 19 I say 7430
                                When I ask you simply Y Q Burned ?
                                If you know just give straight forward answer?
                                Was it Burned?
                                If yes then Y?
                                And what is your source either for burning or not burning ?
                                7431
                                Peace.
                                rotfl

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                                  Bahman
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                                  Another false hadith in El-bukari.

                                  bravo bravo bravo bravo bravo bravo
                                  Peace.
                                  So Quran was not BURNED?
                                  Where is it. Time is precious and we are not in schoolyard playing games.
                                  Just answer straight forward.
                                  And
                                  How many more false reports are there?

                                  7431 rotfl
                                  Peace ?

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                                    Wakas
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                                    If there are reports saying it happened, it may well have. Is it relevant? Perhaps once you actually realise the criteria AQ itself gives for determining its authenticity, then maybe you can get a better handle on it's relevance.

                                    Please see this thread
                                    http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=16279.15

                                    All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                                      belH
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                                      bravo bravo bravo bravo bravo bravo
                                      Peace.
                                      So Quran was not BURNED?
                                      Where is it. Time is precious and we are not in schoolyard playing games.
                                      Just answer straight forward.
                                      And
                                      How many more false reports are there?

                                      7431 rotfl
                                      Peace ?

                                      The Quran you are looking for is in your house (Or in your hand). Please, Relax and trust your Lord when he promised to protect the Quran
                                      Peace giveup

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                                        Bahman
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                                        The Quran you are looking for is in your house (Or in your hand). Please, Relax and trust your Lord when he promised to protect the Quran
                                        Peace giveup

                                        Peace
                                        You are diverting the topic to protection that is different subject .
                                        If you have any evidence for such claim welcome . sun
                                        But
                                        My question is simple and clear.
                                        Was Q Burnt?
                                        Y?
                                        7431 giveup
                                        Peace.

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                                          Bahman
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                                          Peace.

                                          If there are reports saying it happened, it may well have.

                                          Seems you have doubt about reports when you use ?MAY? )

                                          Is it relevant?

                                          When you naswer question straight forward yes or no then we see how revalant is my question unless you like to keep your shell and do see the facts and truth.

                                          Perhaps once you actually realise the criteria AQ itself gives for determining its authenticity, then maybe you can get a better handle on it's relevance.

                                          Parotting same thing all time is wasting our time. I have stated many times that may people like you which know good Arabic as second language or you are Arab can see those deep pudding in Quran when majority of earth habitant do not have such knowledge and Quran can not authentic without a simple proof to be witness world wide regardless their language. When context of Quran is same older scriptures and is same as those. Unless you tell us
                                          Was Quran Burnt and if No where is Original ?
                                          And if you say Yes WHY?
                                          I see tone of distribution in you response and I hope you do not ban me for saying these things here . peace
                                          Please response straight forward Yes or No.
                                          7431 )
                                          Peace.

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