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Free-minds is Evil!

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    nerspi
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    peace

    interesting, i've been told also by many hf that this site and anyone who thinks this way is wrong and evil and trying to mislead muslims... i of course would only like to know how exactly? by saying quran doesn't support violence, cutting hands off of thieves, beating wives... ?

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      phoenix1
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      would you pay that much for a book?

      a saw one book on palestine written by a christian pastor and it cost ?120. (

      hahaha that is (
      I would never pay that much for a book. I think the most I've payed is $150 but that was for a stupid text book for college.

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        Angel
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        gosh thats terrible

        what was the text book for?

        the most i've ever paid for a text book was ?20

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          Wakas
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          The most I spent on a book was ?170/$340, which was Lane's Lexicon. When I got it I sent it away to be cut/separated and scanned, and never used it again.

          Best money I ever spent.

          All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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            Supernaut
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            According to this cartoon I recall watching when I was a kid (I might've been , books were so very expensive in Europe a few centuries ago that this guy sold his castle to buy one. I don't know if that's true or if my memory - which praise God is normally phenomenal - of what I saw about 13 years ago I think is a bit distorted.

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              Tay
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              Peace Lobster,

              If you happen to cross paths with Rifat again, ask him to state his case and post his evidence. Otherwise, there's not much to it, right?

              Peace,
              Tay

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                phoenix1
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                Peace Lobster,

                If you happen to cross paths with Rifat again, ask him to state his case and post his evidence. Otherwise, there's not much to it, right?

                Peace,
                Tay

                unfortunately it's very hard to have a conversation with Rifat because he insists on saying "praise be to Allah" every two minutes (fan of the literal interpretation, i'm assuming). and he keeps calling me arrogant and what not, so...

                I'm not sure if it was right of me to post this but I thought it was absolutely ridiculous how he was accusing free-minds of decieving people and I thought i'd bring it out in the open so it can be discussed and the accused can defend themselves.

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                  phoenix1
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                  gosh thats terrible

                  what was the text book for?

                  the most i've ever paid for a text book was ?20

                  20 pounds is cheap. it was for my stupid engineering class. and that wasn't the only expensive book i've had to buy.
                  and you can't buy em used because they change the edition every year. effing scam.

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                    peace Lobster,

                    I'm surprised you actually posted this as I thought you were a fan of evidence based discussion.

                    Once Mr Humble brings forth some actual evidence, then we can discuss. I pointed this out to him here, he never responded.

                    All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                      phoenix1
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                      Posted what? I think I'm a fan of evidence based discussion...
                      I had a discussion with him online and we concluded that he has to have blind faith to believe what he does, but then he forgot that whole conversation and keeps arguing that his beliefs are the right one and there's plenty of evidence. but he never gives me any.

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                        Angel
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                        there are loads of fields in engineering, which one are you doing?

                        and bring rifat back!

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                          phoenix1
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                          there are loads of fields in engineering, which one are you doing?

                          and bring rifat back!

                          I'm doing mechanical engineering. yes, that's very cool.

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                            Wakas
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                            By "this" I meant the original post. Unless you were expecting "Mr Humble" to participate, thus initiate an evidence based discussion.

                            However, as per your observation, and my reference, it would seem "Mr Humble" is not one to actually bring evidence to the table.

                            All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                              Soof
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                              mech eng is so bloody hard. glad I didn't go down that route lol.

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                                phoenix1
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                                By "this" I meant the original post. Unless you were expecting "Mr Humble" to participate, thus initiate an evidence based discussion.

                                However, as per your observation, and my reference, it would seem "Mr Humble" is not one to actually bring evidence to the table.

                                yes, now I see your point. I gave it a shot. Let's see if he responds.
                                peace

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                                  phoenix1
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                                  mech eng is so bloody hard. glad I didn't go down that route lol.

                                  don't remind me!

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                                    Wakas
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                                    Generally speaking, the more difficult something is, the greater the reward. I think this is particularly true when it comes to career/job/profession.

                                    If it's easy, many people can do it, high supply of skillset, lower wages.

                                    If it's difficult, less people can do it, low supply of skillset, higher wages.

                                    All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                                      Angel
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                                      there are loads of fields in Mechanical engineers~ analyzing motor vehicles, aircraft, heating and cooling systems, watercraft, manufacturing plants, industrial equipment and machinery, robotics, medical devices, what exactly would you be trained to do?

                                      with text books that bloody expensive i would expect you to be doing all of that.

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                                        phoenix1
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                                        there are loads of fields in Mechanical engineers~ analyzing motor vehicles, aircraft, heating and cooling systems, watercraft, manufacturing plants, industrial equipment and machinery, robotics, medical devices, what exactly would you be trained to do?

                                        with text books that bloody expensive i would expect you to be doing all of that.

                                        uhhh I have no idea. but if I'm lucky I'll be working with what you call "motor vehicles."

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                                          mr__humble
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                                          unfortunately it's very hard to have a conversation with Rifat because he insists on saying "praise be to Allah" every two minutes (fan of the literal interpretation, i'm assuming). and he keeps calling me arrogant and what not, so...

                                          I'm not sure if it was right of me to post this but I thought it was absolutely ridiculous how he was accusing free-minds of decieving people and I thought i'd bring it out in the open so it can be discussed and the accused can defend themselves.

                                          do you have a problem with me praising Allah every two minutes... i seriusly enjoy talking about the divine qualities of GOD...

                                          Waleed, if i personally called you arrogant, I sincerely apologize! but last time i talked to you in AIM you told me to stop talking stupid... i am entitled to my opinion and i chose to accept what i should and what would benefit me of my purpose in this life and the hereafter.

                                          it seems as if this site has "westernized" Islam because arabic texts have broad interpretation and without examples of how the revelation was revealed unto Prophet Mohmmad(PBUH), who are we to judge what God wants to say?

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