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Free-minds is Evil!

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    Samia
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    does anyone know where i could get some english translations of his books?

    Try amazon.co.uk

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      Alen
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      Peace,
      Respectfully.

      A guy a know told me that this whole website was made by some Hindus in India in order to mislead people and now that all of you have broguht all these options, like was it Hungarian Jew or this Humble fella or this or that guy .... i'll tell you this forget all that, let's just be Muslims, let's glorify God as much as we can and let's follow and obey Quran before the Time runs out and time is running out.

      Let's not waste time.
      That's my idea, not waste time.

      Glory be to our God,
      glory be to our God.

      Peace.

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        Angel
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        damn his books are pricey.

        Muslim Studies v. 1 by Ignaz Goldziher, S.M. Stern, Hamid Dabashi, and C.R. - ?20.50

        Muslim studies (Muhammedanische Studien) by Ignaz Goldziher ?25.00

        Introduction to Islamic Theology and Law (Modern Classics in Near Eastern Studies) by Ignaz Goldziher, Andras Hamori, and Ruth Hamori ?17.95

        Mythology Among The Hebrews And Its Historical Development by Ignaz Goldziher and J. Martineau ?23.95

        The Zahiris Their Doctrine and Their History. A Contribution to the History of Islamic Theology (Brill Classics in Islam) by Ignaz Goldziher, Wolfgang Behn, and Camilla Adang ?45.01

        Short History of Classical Arabic Literature by Ignaz Goldziher ?39.49

        Introduction to Islamic Theology and Law (Modern classics in Near Eastern studies) by Ignaz Goldziher and Bernard Lewis ?93.30

        On the History of Grammar Among the Arabs (Studies in the History of the Language Sciences) by Ignaz Goldziher, Kinga Devenyi, and Tamas Ivanyi ?89.99

        I never normally pay more then ?15 for a book.

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          phoenix1
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          Lobster, why are you speaking for Mr. Humble?

          Peace Nadeem, long time no see.
          I'm not speaking for Mr. Humble. We had a conversation relating to free-minds last week and he said that the people who run free-minds are intentionally posting lies to deceive people. I thought that was ridiculous. I posted this here so that the administrators and the writers of the articles can tell their side of the story and so mr.humble can explain why he thinks that.

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            phoenix1
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            I never normally pay more then ?15 for a book.

            Because you are cheap!

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              Angel
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              would you pay that much for a book?

              a saw one book on palestine written by a christian pastor and it cost ?120. (

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                Lost_Philosopher
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                For 120? That must be a very good book. I bet it has pictures too.

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                  nerspi
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                  peace

                  interesting, i've been told also by many hf that this site and anyone who thinks this way is wrong and evil and trying to mislead muslims... i of course would only like to know how exactly? by saying quran doesn't support violence, cutting hands off of thieves, beating wives... ?

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                    phoenix1
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                    would you pay that much for a book?

                    a saw one book on palestine written by a christian pastor and it cost ?120. (

                    hahaha that is (
                    I would never pay that much for a book. I think the most I've payed is $150 but that was for a stupid text book for college.

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                      Angel
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                      gosh thats terrible

                      what was the text book for?

                      the most i've ever paid for a text book was ?20

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                        Wakas
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                        The most I spent on a book was ?170/$340, which was Lane's Lexicon. When I got it I sent it away to be cut/separated and scanned, and never used it again.

                        Best money I ever spent.

                        All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                          Supernaut
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                          According to this cartoon I recall watching when I was a kid (I might've been , books were so very expensive in Europe a few centuries ago that this guy sold his castle to buy one. I don't know if that's true or if my memory - which praise God is normally phenomenal - of what I saw about 13 years ago I think is a bit distorted.

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                            Tay
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                            Peace Lobster,

                            If you happen to cross paths with Rifat again, ask him to state his case and post his evidence. Otherwise, there's not much to it, right?

                            Peace,
                            Tay

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                              phoenix1
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                              Peace Lobster,

                              If you happen to cross paths with Rifat again, ask him to state his case and post his evidence. Otherwise, there's not much to it, right?

                              Peace,
                              Tay

                              unfortunately it's very hard to have a conversation with Rifat because he insists on saying "praise be to Allah" every two minutes (fan of the literal interpretation, i'm assuming). and he keeps calling me arrogant and what not, so...

                              I'm not sure if it was right of me to post this but I thought it was absolutely ridiculous how he was accusing free-minds of decieving people and I thought i'd bring it out in the open so it can be discussed and the accused can defend themselves.

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                                phoenix1
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                                gosh thats terrible

                                what was the text book for?

                                the most i've ever paid for a text book was ?20

                                20 pounds is cheap. it was for my stupid engineering class. and that wasn't the only expensive book i've had to buy.
                                and you can't buy em used because they change the edition every year. effing scam.

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                                  Wakas
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                                  peace Lobster,

                                  I'm surprised you actually posted this as I thought you were a fan of evidence based discussion.

                                  Once Mr Humble brings forth some actual evidence, then we can discuss. I pointed this out to him here, he never responded.

                                  All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                                    phoenix1
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                                    Posted what? I think I'm a fan of evidence based discussion...
                                    I had a discussion with him online and we concluded that he has to have blind faith to believe what he does, but then he forgot that whole conversation and keeps arguing that his beliefs are the right one and there's plenty of evidence. but he never gives me any.

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                                      Angel
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                                      there are loads of fields in engineering, which one are you doing?

                                      and bring rifat back!

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                                        phoenix1
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                                        there are loads of fields in engineering, which one are you doing?

                                        and bring rifat back!

                                        I'm doing mechanical engineering. yes, that's very cool.

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                                          Wakas
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                                          By "this" I meant the original post. Unless you were expecting "Mr Humble" to participate, thus initiate an evidence based discussion.

                                          However, as per your observation, and my reference, it would seem "Mr Humble" is not one to actually bring evidence to the table.

                                          All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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