Free-minds is Evil!
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As "Lobster" has brought this subject to our attention we must give our full priority to verify the truth of what Mr. Humble says in a very "humble" manner - which we believe is the manner of Islam. I think it would be great if "Lobster would answer him first,so that we can follow.
Free your minds.Keep up the good work and shun evil from its roots.
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lobster is he the "mr humble" that used to post a very long time ago, i think his name was rifat.
wanna know why some people believe that free-minds is a jewish conspiracy?
well the first modern person to suggest that the ahadith are unreliable was a hungarian jew.
Read his profile
http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignaz_Goldziherhis books look interesting.
should be read by progressive muslims
does anyone know where i could get some english translations of his books?
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does anyone know where i could get some english translations of his books?
Try amazon.co.uk
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Peace,
Respectfully.A guy a know told me that this whole website was made by some Hindus in India in order to mislead people and now that all of you have broguht all these options, like was it Hungarian Jew or this Humble fella or this or that guy .... i'll tell you this forget all that, let's just be Muslims, let's glorify God as much as we can and let's follow and obey Quran before the Time runs out and time is running out.
Let's not waste time.
That's my idea, not waste time.Glory be to our God,
glory be to our God.Peace.
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damn his books are pricey.
Muslim Studies v. 1 by Ignaz Goldziher, S.M. Stern, Hamid Dabashi, and C.R. - ?20.50
Muslim studies (Muhammedanische Studien) by Ignaz Goldziher ?25.00
Introduction to Islamic Theology and Law (Modern Classics in Near Eastern Studies) by Ignaz Goldziher, Andras Hamori, and Ruth Hamori ?17.95
Mythology Among The Hebrews And Its Historical Development by Ignaz Goldziher and J. Martineau ?23.95
The Zahiris Their Doctrine and Their History. A Contribution to the History of Islamic Theology (Brill Classics in Islam) by Ignaz Goldziher, Wolfgang Behn, and Camilla Adang ?45.01
Short History of Classical Arabic Literature by Ignaz Goldziher ?39.49
Introduction to Islamic Theology and Law (Modern classics in Near Eastern studies) by Ignaz Goldziher and Bernard Lewis ?93.30
On the History of Grammar Among the Arabs (Studies in the History of the Language Sciences) by Ignaz Goldziher, Kinga Devenyi, and Tamas Ivanyi ?89.99
I never normally pay more then ?15 for a book.
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Lobster, why are you speaking for Mr. Humble?
Peace Nadeem, long time no see.
I'm not speaking for Mr. Humble. We had a conversation relating to free-minds last week and he said that the people who run free-minds are intentionally posting lies to deceive people. I thought that was ridiculous. I posted this here so that the administrators and the writers of the articles can tell their side of the story and so mr.humble can explain why he thinks that. -
For 120? That must be a very good book. I bet it has pictures too.
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peace
interesting, i've been told also by many hf that this site and anyone who thinks this way is wrong and evil and trying to mislead muslims... i of course would only like to know how exactly? by saying quran doesn't support violence, cutting hands off of thieves, beating wives... ?
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would you pay that much for a book?
a saw one book on palestine written by a christian pastor and it cost ?120. (
hahaha that is (
I would never pay that much for a book. I think the most I've payed is $150 but that was for a stupid text book for college. -
According to this cartoon I recall watching when I was a kid (I might've been , books were so very expensive in Europe a few centuries ago that this guy sold his castle to buy one. I don't know if that's true or if my memory - which praise God is normally phenomenal - of what I saw about 13 years ago I think is a bit distorted.
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Peace Lobster,
If you happen to cross paths with Rifat again, ask him to state his case and post his evidence. Otherwise, there's not much to it, right?
Peace,
Tayunfortunately it's very hard to have a conversation with Rifat because he insists on saying "praise be to Allah" every two minutes (fan of the literal interpretation, i'm assuming). and he keeps calling me arrogant and what not, so...
I'm not sure if it was right of me to post this but I thought it was absolutely ridiculous how he was accusing free-minds of decieving people and I thought i'd bring it out in the open so it can be discussed and the accused can defend themselves.
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gosh thats terrible
what was the text book for?
the most i've ever paid for a text book was ?20
20 pounds is cheap. it was for my stupid engineering class. and that wasn't the only expensive book i've had to buy.
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Posted what? I think I'm a fan of evidence based discussion...
I had a discussion with him online and we concluded that he has to have blind faith to believe what he does, but then he forgot that whole conversation and keeps arguing that his beliefs are the right one and there's plenty of evidence. but he never gives me any.
