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Number of wives?

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    Muslimtruthrevealed
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    Both words Nisa and Awaj are not used for prophet's wife. Moreover, why does Lord need to address people individually or personally. The purpose of this book is to give general laws of guidance applicable for all times. So why he need to address wifes individually. Furthermore, this is coming from the Lord who is originator of every thing. How come an originator with all encompassing knowledge will act in a reactive manner. The laws are same for ever.

    Badar

    Excellent point Badar....

    We have not instructed the (Prophet) in Poetry, NOR IS IT MEANT FOR HIM. this is no less than a Message and a Qur'an making things clear.

    That it may give admonition to any (who are) alive / hayyan, and that the charge may be proved against those who reject (Truth).

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      Both words Nisa and Awaj are not used for prophet's wife. Moreover, why does Lord need to address people individually or personally. The purpose of this book is to give general laws of guidance applicable for all times. So why he need to address wifes individually. Furthermore, this is coming from the Lord who is originator of every thing. How come an originator with all encompassing knowledge will act in a reactive manner. The laws are same for ever.

      Badar

      Read Quran in context...

      3328-32 You, you the prophet, say to your wives (li-azwajika) "If you were wanting the life the present/worldly life and its decoration/beauty, so come, I make you enjoy, I free you, divorce/freeing gracefully (peaceful/quiet)." And if you were wanting God and His messenger, and the end's (other life's) house/home, so then God prepared to the good doers from you a great reward. You, the prophet's women/wives (nisaa), who commits from you with an evident atrocious deed, the punishment be doubled for her two doubles, and that is on God easy/little. And who from you obeys humbly to God and His messenger and does righteous deeds, We give her reward twice, and We prepared for her an generous provision. You, the prophet's women/wives (nisaa), you are not as anyone from the women (alnnisa). If you keep your duty, then be not soft in speech, lest he in whose heart is a disease should be moved with desire, but speak in an honorable manner.

      3353 You, you those who believe, do not enter the prophet's houses except that (it) be permitted to you, not waiting to (for) food at it, and but if you were invited so enter, so if you ate so spread out (disperse), and not seeing (expecting) to an speech (conversation), that, that was harming mildly the prophet, so he feels shy from you, and God does not shame from the truth, and if you asked them (for) belongings, so ask them from behind a partition, that is purer to your hearts/minds and their hearts/minds, and (it) was not for you that you harm mildly God's messenger, and nor that you marry his wives (azwajahu) from after him ever, that truly that was at God great.

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        FAR
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        Gay communities' got wives?

        confused

        In some cases yes, in other cases - absence from the getting wives.

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          Muslimtruthrevealed
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          @Nun

          Im sorry we are beyond the references of english translations.

          ya ayyuha annabiyyu does NOT mean 'O Prophet, You O' Prophet'

          Ya Nominative Case

          ?Ya? used to express feelings or affection towards someone or something when followed by a verbal noun or Nominative Case. ; Language of the Holy Quran, page 400

          Why cant you accept this?

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            siki
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            Both words Nisa and Awaj are not used for prophet's wife. Moreover, why does Lord need to address people individually or personally. The purpose of this book is to give general laws of guidance applicable for all times. So why he need to address wifes individually. Furthermore, this is coming from the Lord who is originator of every thing. How come an originator with all encompassing knowledge will act in a reactive manner. The laws are same for ever.

            Badar

            Kindly, at least bother to read the BOOK, before you type in such sweeping statements. Here is where God thought it be appropriate to adress prophet's wives.

            33-59 O Prophet! say to your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers that they let down upon them their over-garments; this will be more proper, that they may be known, and thus they will not be given trouble; and Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

            siki

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              siki
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              Sis Maria, indeed sincerity of heart and mind is the prime prerequisite for understanding the book.
              One thing should be clear that the exalted prophet could not and did not marry anybody after been bestowed with prophethood, as this would have been clear violation of the very message he was going to preach. I will try to explore from Alkitab if we can answer how many wifes he had?

              Badar

              It is better to explore first, because otherwise you are Most likely to mislead the innocent minds around. He was told at a certain stage, that NO MORE, but not stopped after prophet hood.

              33-50 O Prophet! surely We have made lawful to you your wives whom you have given their dowries, and those whom your right hand possesses out of those whom Allah has given to you as prisoners of war, and the daughters of your paternal uncles and the daughters of your paternal aunts, and the daughters of your maternal uncles and the daughters of your maternal aunts who fled with you; and a believing woman if she gave herself to the Prophet, if the Prophet desired to marry her -- specially for you, not for the (rest of) believers; We know what We have ordained for them concerning their wives and those whom their right hands possess in order that no blame may attach to you; and Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

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                Muslimtruthrevealed
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                Kindly, at least bother to read the BOOK, before you type in such sweeping statements. Here is where God thought it be appropriate to adress prophet's wives.

                33-59 O Prophet! say to your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers that they let down upon them their over-garments; this will be more proper, that they may be known, and thus they will not be given trouble; and Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

                siki

                33.59...... Ya ayyuha alnnabiyyu qul li azwajika wa banatika /

                Again....

                ya ayyuha annabiyyu does NOT mean 'O Prophet, You O' Prophet'

                Ya Nominative Case

                ?Ya? used to express feelings or affection towards someone or something when followed by a verbal noun or Nominative Case. ; Language of the Holy Quran, page 400

                azwajika / YOUR mate or spouse

                banatika / YOUR daughter

                'ka' is 2nd person pronoun meaning 'You', present tense

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                  It is better to explore first, because otherwise you are Most likely to mislead the innocent minds around. He was told at a certain stage, that NO MORE, but not stopped after prophet hood.

                  33-50 O Prophet! surely We have made lawful to you your wives whom you have given their dowries, and those whom your right hand possesses out of those whom Allah has given to you as prisoners of war, and the daughters of your paternal uncles and the daughters of your paternal aunts, and the daughters of your maternal uncles and the daughters of your maternal aunts who fled with you; and a believing woman if she gave herself to the Prophet, if the Prophet desired to marry her -- specially for you, not for the (rest of) believers; We know what We have ordained for them concerning their wives and those whom their right hands possess in order that no blame may attach to you; and Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

                  33.50.... Ya ayyuha alnnabiyyu inna ahlalna laka azwajaka /

                  Again....

                  ya ayyuha annabiyyu does NOT mean 'O Prophet, You O' Prophet'

                  Ya Nominative Case

                  ?Ya? used to express feelings or affection towards someone or something when followed by a verbal noun or Nominative Case. ; Language of the Holy Quran, page 400

                  azwajika / YOUR mate or spouse

                  'ka' is 2nd person pronoun meaning 'You', present tense

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                    siki
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                    You are welcome, Siki.

                    Indeed it was very intelligent of you to capitalize on such a subtle hint.

                    siki

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                      siki
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                      siki, i just reported your above comment as sexist

                      I agree, guess i need to be careful.

                      siki

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                        bkanwar2
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                        Dear friends let us just analyse this word from 3359 alone

                        How come one can read it as one word "Azwajaka". Please pay attention to alphabets. Peace and love.

                        Badar

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                          farida
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                          Salaam,
                          I have voted for "as one as one can manage" and remember that managing means, be there for her as her husband in all walks of life, supporting her financially and sexually as well as companionably, strong enough to provide for her needs....any example there? angel
                          Not like wealthy Arabs who can only give their wives enough money to shop and are unable to satisfy them, thus leaving many sexually frustrated.
                          peace

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                            afridi220
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                            Salaam,
                            I have voted for "as one as one can manage" and remember that managing means, be there for her as her husband in all walks of life, supporting her financially and sexually as well as companionably, strong enough to provide for her needs....any example there?
                            Not like wealthy Arabs who can only give their wives enough money to shop and are unable to satisfy them, thus leaving many sexually frustrated.
                            peace

                            ) how you know that laugh

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                              farida
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                              ) how you know that laugh

                              And you don't know about this ? )

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                                afridi220
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                                And you don't know about this ? )

                                Yes i know cause im living here with them but how you know ;D

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                                  afridi220
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                                  Salaam,
                                  Not like wealthy Arabs who can only give their wives enough money to shop and are unable to satisfy them, thus leaving many sexually frustrated.
                                  peace

                                  Really I fell down laughing from the chair. It is very true if you go to the court here you will find most of divorce cases are filed by women on the above said allegations.

                                  laugh laugh

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                                    farida
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                                    Yes i know cause im living here with them but how you know ;D

                                    There are enough of them here going on shopping sprees. '(

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                                      farida
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                                      Really I fell down laughing from the chair.
                                      laugh laugh

                                      Now you notice what I wrote wow

                                      It is very true if you go to the court here you will find most of divorce cases are filed by women on the above said allegations.

                                      I hope they dont end up in front a Judge who gives this verdict likr A-A
                                      ?If the gentleman had married one woman, went on to marry another woman, then married a third woman, all three without giving any one of them a talaq, this gentleman is well within the hudood, he has a right accorded to him by Allah to have more than one wife. To speak ill of his conduct is gheebat, his conduct is that of a momin.? brickwall

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                                        afridi220
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                                        Now you notice what I wrote wow

                                        I hope they dont end up in front a Judge who gives this verdict likr A-A
                                        ?If the gentleman had married one woman, went on to marry another woman, then married a third woman, all three without giving any one of them a talaq, this gentleman is well within the hudood, he has a right accorded to him by Allah to have more than one wife. To speak ill of his conduct is gheebat, his conduct is that of a momin.? brickwall

                                        Please don?t break the wall a fortune of knowledge is buried under it.
                                        The women of this country are very bold and strong they know how to get divorce secondly they have very good jobs and don?t care about men superiority at all and the government is very helpful.

                                        voodoo

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                                          SwedenMajidah
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                                          Salaam,
                                          I have voted for "as one as one can manage" and remember that managing means, be there for her as her husband in all walks of life, supporting her financially and sexually as well as companionably, strong enough to provide for her needs....any example there? angel
                                          Not like wealthy Arabs who can only give their wives enough money to shop and are unable to satisfy them, thus leaving many sexually frustrated.
                                          peace

                                          Peace,

                                          Good point sister Farida!!! Men are too greedy, they want too much and cannot manage it ;D

                                          Maria

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