Women are more independant,(e.g career,education) in the society.
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Men never asked to be treated as equal to women and we never ask women to be treated as equal to men. It is the women themselves who demand to be treated equal. And nobody is perfect both sexes have plus and minus. Mkay?
what man would ask to be equal to a woman, when men do there job go out and work they are doing what god has asked of them to take care of the family what woman would be agaisnt that, but when women do there job as in having children raising them taking care of the home and mind you, this is a much harder job then mens work, i have worked in all kinds of jobs mens included as in warehouse work, were we are lifting 50 pound boxes 10 hours a day, but at the end of the day we get paid, who pays women for being mothers for waking up at night 2 and 3 times to breastfeed, or to clean up after our children or to take them to school........ a mothers job is a 24 hour job with no pay, and im talking as in money, and men come at the end of the day not appreciating what women do, as far as men are concerned the food that is ready on the table was magically put there and the house that is clean, a snap of the finger........all there wives do is have coffee with the ladies and talk about men. i beleive that why women are fed up with men and want equallity because they are never appreciated for what god created them for, and if men give ther women money they now think they have the right to oppress them, its not like we were living on the street before they married us.
i once over heard a man on the phone arguing with his wife and i will never forget what he said to her, " dont i have a roof over your head" whatever man, we can talk and debate about equality forever,god knows what equality is and humans will never learn, it will always be like this till the end of time, i have siad it once i will say it again......men are those who break or make this world, they have not only broken it but it is shattered, and everyone women, children, and the old are all paying for there greed and power............the only man who will ever succeed in this world is that who follows gods word 100%.............good luck to us finding them...... -
what man would ask to be equal to a woman, when men do there job go out and work they are doing what god has asked of them to take care of the family what woman would be agaisnt that, but when women do there job as in having children raising them taking care of the home and mind you, this is a much harder job then mens work, i have worked in all kinds of jobs mens included as in warehouse work, were we are lifting 50 pound boxes 10 hours a day, but at the end of the day we get paid, who pays women for being mothers for waking up at night 2 and 3 times to breastfeed, or to clean up after our children or to take them to school........ a mothers job is a 24 hour job with no pay, and im talking as in money, and men come at the end of the day not appreciating what women do, as far as men are concerned the food that is ready on the table was magically put there and the house that is clean, a snap of the finger........all there wives do is have coffee with the ladies and talk about men. i beleive that why women are fed up with men and want equallity because they are never appreciated for what god created them for, and if men give ther women money they now think they have the right to oppress them, its not like we were living on the street before they married us.
i once over heard a man on the phone arguing with his wife and i will never forget what he said to her, " dont i have a roof over your head" whatever man, we can talk and debate about equality forever,god knows what equality is and humans will never learn, it will always be like this till the end of time, i have siad it once i will say it again......men are those who break or make this world, they have not only broken it but it is shattered, and everyone women, children, and the old are all paying for there greed and power............the only man who will ever succeed in this world is that who follows gods word 100%.............good luck to us finding them......Salam,
bravo I love u sister, u really said it all, the truths about most of the males.
Maria
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Thank you for not saying all the males like anna said ;D
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Peace,
He he well I still have hope therefore I didn't said ALL the males
Maria
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what man would ask to be equal to a woman, when men do there job go out and work they are doing what god has asked of them to take care of the family what woman would be agaisnt that, but when women do there job as in having children raising them taking care of the home and mind you, this is a much harder job then mens work, i have worked in all kinds of jobs mens included as in warehouse work, were we are lifting 50 pound boxes 10 hours a day, but at the end of the day we get paid, who pays women for being mothers for waking up at night 2 and 3 times to breastfeed, or to clean up after our children or to take them to school........ a mothers job is a 24 hour job with no pay, and im talking as in money, and men come at the end of the day not appreciating what women do, as far as men are concerned the food that is ready on the table was magically put there and the house that is clean, a snap of the finger........all there wives do is have coffee with the ladies and talk about men. i beleive that why women are fed up with men and want equallity because they are never appreciated for what god created them for, and if men give ther women money they now think they have the right to oppress them, its not like we were living on the street before they married us.
i once over heard a man on the phone arguing with his wife and i will never forget what he said to her, " dont i have a roof over your head" whatever man, we can talk and debate about equality forever,god knows what equality is and humans will never learn, it will always be like this till the end of time, i have siad it once i will say it again......men are those who break or make this world, they have not only broken it but it is shattered, and everyone women, children, and the old are all paying for there greed and power............the only man who will ever succeed in this world is that who follows gods word 100%.............good luck to us finding them......Why so serious? ;D
Anyway, I agree with everything you said however I dont exactly understand why you are angry at my comment because it was merely a reply to a previous post that said men should be made equal to women which I disagreed, mkay? I dont wanna be made equal to women and I dont need women to be made equal to men but as I said the fact is that its the women themselves who keep asking to be treated equal as men, mkay? And I fully support the idea that women and men should be treated equal. But as I already stated in my previous post the problem is that many if not most women expect to be treated equal at workplaces but also demand special treatment which makes no sense. So I dont understand, mkay? D
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I think this topic is quite interesting so I made a little research related to Anna's complain and I found this story from a stay-at-home dad on Yahoo AnswerStay at home dad and divorce?
I am a stay at home dad and my wife all of a sudden resents me for this arrangement, even though we agreed on it before the children were born. She says she wants me to work while she stays at home but she has a pretty good paying job and I would not be able to match the salarie that she is making and we are currently barely making it. She doesn't think my contributions (taking care of a 2year old and a 8month old, cleaning, cooking, shopping, working part time nights on the weekend) are of any value and is very dismissive of my sacrifice and hard work. She basically doesn't respect me or appreciate me anymore.
So two days before Christmas I'm facing divorce, the problem is I am not in a financial position to stand up for myself and walk out that door. I plan on getting a job asap but we have the whole child care issue and It's very expensive around my area.
My question is what should I do in this situation? Has anyone else gone through this? Any information/advice would be helpfulAdditional Details
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I work as a bouncer on the weekend nights to have some extra cash. I though about swing shift but then I would never have any time with her and I'm already exhausted most of the time as it is!10 months ago
She is the one who wants to end it and I refuse to continually beg someone to love me.Her critical attitude towards me has effected my self esteem and confidence. I feel so unappreciated and taken for granted, she makes me feel like a piece of crap sometimes. I have never done anything wrong to her even though she has to me. I go out of my way to make her feel beautiful and wanted but she is just sick of me i guess.
http//answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AlhY3Tq7VNYO6_qY_fqNNTkjzKIX;_ylv=3?qid=20071223154732AAaAVkmSo this is what we call 'The Power of Situation'. Men arent really inherently unappreciative. Its just that what you perceive about your role is what determines your behavior. When you have a career and work hard and make money to feed your family you feel that you are in power. When women are put in the same role not surprisingly they turn out to be just exactly the same ...
The same thing about the accusation that men destroy the world. Well, have you read much of history? Many women have become heads of states. But were they any different than men? No. Margaret Thatcher, Indira Ghandi, Queen Isabella, Queen Elizabeth or Golda Meir were no less warmongers ...
So please dont demonize men, mkay? )
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Precisely, you do not understand. May be if you got the same treatment as women you would. Great novelty that most men do not ask for it. Of course they don't just as usually children do not ask for summerholidays to be over. Women do not ask for the deal they get either,but they get it anyway. If everybody got the women's treatment at least there would be a fair sharing of the burden by all.
I do not like either your talking in the name of men as if they were all the same and they shared your views. Some men are honourable and fair and just, they also bear the burden of the abuse and irresponsibility of the large number of those whose only god on this earth is their comfort and convenience. And woo to those who trespass on that comfort and convenience... but we know already how illogical and evil women are, don't we?... They are always asking for unreasonable things, there is no way to make them happy they want the all the advantges but they are not ready to take shoulder the inconveniences... In what world do you live?
Salaam
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In other words women dont wanna be treated equal as men. As simple as that. They only want equal or more pay.
lets make something clear men and women are equal only in taqwa each to there beleif and there strength in faith, only one problem very few follow faith.......... very few,
lets put it this way all people with good hearts tend to get stepped on be it women or men and its not till after the fact that we realize that are hearts have to be strengthened, but then you wonder why would i need to stregthen my heart towards my spouse are we not to work as one , one heart one pocket one mind for the sake of our lives and the lives of our children. i beleive there is men out there who are as i put them great men, and to me as a female i worship the word man indirectly in other words i only worship god but the word man has great responsibitly and meaning, he should have the heart of a lion yet kind and loving.......... there is no more of that these days its all about money, we can talk religion all we want but nowadays anyone would be kidding themselves if they said that life is anything then money.........corruption from men...........if there were great men, (that i one day hope to meet in heaven), on this earth i will gladly accept my role as female wife mother and accept whatever comes, but to do all that then get treated miserably by men...............they are diffinetly not worth it....................im sorry im not angry at anyone i just like to also bring reality into the forum and reality is much more uglier then one imagines. as much as we would like to live happy the only happiness that we will get is when we all have faith in god alone, and i truley am thankful that i found this forum, you ppl have no idea.
when i speak of men, i speak in general, but i know there are some good men out there and some are great but agai they are very very few. no matter how bad a woman gets when she has a strong husband he will put her in place in the right way in the respectable way, not to throw her like garbage. he is the man afterall his word should be the last, if he is good to his wife she should accept his word as last as well. -
I think the constant fight between the sexes is a waste of time. Both sexes never stop vilifying each other.
But you wanna know the truth? The truth is that both male and female babies cry when they are born but one baby will eventually face a world which discourages him to cry while the other baby will face a world which encourages her to cry. In other words it is all about the conditioning in society. So unless all of us decide to see what the others see we all will remain blind.
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I think the constant fight between the sexes is a waste of time. Both sexes never stop vilifying each other.
But you wanna know the truth? The truth is that both male and female babies cry when they are born but one baby will eventually face a world which discourages him to cry while the other baby will face a world which encourages her to cry. In other words it is all about the conditioning in society. So unless all of us decide to see what the others see we all will remain blind.
Now you are getting serious. Wha you say is partially it. Only partially, because you still make the blunder of taking all males as a single piece. They are not a single piece. There are males, men, able to appreciate women for something else than the advantage they entail for them, and who, to protect women or to protect themselves must stand against other men, who ONLY see the advantages they can get from women in exchange for as little or nothing they can get away with. Those former men are not like the latter, not at all. The laws and the customs during centuries and even now support consistently the latter men as the standard of maleness, while they punish the former, because if the standard had been the former men, most probably there would never have been a need to long for a wome's lib, and that is what I mean when I say with womens lib what was done was the wrong way, trying to make women as beastly as men and not men as non beastly as women. It is self evident, that women cannot compete with men when it comes to beastlyness, because physiologically they don't have the means, therefore the bargain for women and for upright men is a loosing one, and therfore will attract larger number of men to the beastly field instead of to the decent field. So it is not a battle of the sexes, but of the predators against the preys and those who really have the balls (men or women) to stand to the predators. And please do not bring the argument that women do the same because they don't, they can't, not in significant numbers. When they can and they do, then it can be brought up. Now it would be a sneaky way of sidestepping issues large enough to include everybody.
SALAAM
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Peace all
To all females; what is your understanding of the following verses(
When she was delivered she said "O my Lord! behold! I am delivered of a female child!" And Allah knew best what she brought forth, "And the male is not like the female. I have named her Mary and I commend her and her offspring to Thy protection from the Evil One, the Rejected." (3-36)( ( ( ( ( (
Or that We created the angels female, and they are witnesses (thereto)? (150) Is it not that they say from their own invention (151) "Allah has begotten children"? But they are liars! (152) Did He choose Females over Males? (153) What is the matter with you? How judge ye? (154) Will ye not then receive admonition? (37-155) -
Peace all
To all females; what is your understanding of the following verses(
When she was delivered she said "O my Lord! behold! I am delivered of a female child!" And Allah knew best what she brought forth, "And the male is not like the female. I have named her Mary and I commend her and her offspring to Thy protection from the Evil One, the Rejected." (3-36)( ( ( ( ( (
Or that We created the angels female, and they are witnesses (thereto)? (150) Is it not that they say from their own invention (151) "Allah has begotten children"? But they are liars! (152) Did He choose Females over Males? (153) What is the matter with you? How judge ye? (154) Will ye not then receive admonition? (37-155)Peace Br Belal,
As I have said before Allah not favour any of the genders. The only thing is that the genders are different from eachothers and that gives the answer to that the diffrencies attract eachother. God did create us like this for reproductions and for worshipping Him Alone.
Maria
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Peace Br Belal,
As I have said before Allah not favour any of the genders. The only thing is that the genders are different from eachothers and that gives the answer to that the diffrencies attract eachother. God did create us like this for reproductions and for worshipping Him Alone.
Maria
Now; are Angels Females?
And the most important Question what is your understading of these verses( (
Did He choose Females over Males? (153) What is the matter with you? How judge ye? (154)
Peace
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Now; are Angels Females?
And the most important Question what is your understading of these verses( (
Did He choose Females over Males? (153) What is the matter with you? How judge ye? (154)
Peace
Peace,
What I understand are the Angels genderless.
Humans make genders a big issue not God and therefore these verses exist to remind us that we are equal.
Maria
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Peace,
What I understand are the Angels genderless.
Humans make genders a big issue not God and therefore these verses exist to remind us that we are equal.
Maria
Ok; I will agree that Angels are not Females.
And for the second comment, Gender is a big isuee in our religion; after all, there are some guidences unique for Female and others for Male; thus, they are not equal, according to God, when it comes to guidences.
And finally, Females are creatuers that God blessed humans whe creating them. They are the Most Mercful being within Humans; and that is why I love them more than males, and I will keep doing this untill I die sun -
Ok; I will agree that Angels are not Females.
And for the second comment, Gender is a big isuee in our religion; after all, there are some guidences unique for Female and others for Male; thus, they are not equal, according to God, when it comes to guidences.
And finally, Females are creatuers that God blessed humans whe creating them. They are the Most Mercful being within Humans; and that is why I love them more than males, and I will keep doing this untill I die sunPeace,
I am of course pleased to know that you love females more than you love males. The fact we have different task to do in our life not makes us less equal to eachother. God says we are equal in front of Him.
Maria
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Peace,
I am of course pleased to know that you love females more than you love males. The fact we have different task to do in our life not makes us less equal to eachother. God says we are equal in front of Him.
Maria
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But also note that if I was not a Male, I would not love Females that much...I think confused rotfl -
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But also note that if I was ot a Male, I would not love Females that much...T think confused rotflI love both males and females group
And Belal, don't mix sexual needs into this please
Maria