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    belH
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    How about a deal?

    • If I fail to provide proof of this root ( ) for the verb I step down as moderator and you have your peace of mind.

    Samia.... & do not fail & otherwise, Al Araf will Kick all of us out of the Forum, so he can Rest... Samia, should I panic?

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      Samia
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      Samia.... & do not fail & otherwise, Al Araf will Kick all of us out of the Forum, so he can Rest... Samia, should I panic?

      hehehe! I was asleep! It was almost midnight when I posted my "offer"! It's now 633 a.m. Only about 7 hours passed
      Waiting for Al's acceptance of the offer.

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        Samia
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        Nine hours and no reponse? I take it you can't make a decision, and I understand. However, I will not wait indefinitely for your acceptance.
        Here's my response

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        From this site of a collection of CA

        http//www.baheth.info/all.jsp?term=

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          Roshan
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          salam roshan. before you post you should check the quran in your hand.

          if you spoke english better, you would know multiple wives is not polygamy. it is polygyny. mistake number one.

          if you had actually read the quran, you would have seen the word "azwaajan" or wives, plural. allah speaks of that which he has established for mankind. allah has spoken of azwajan, allah has not stated azwajan as fawahish, makruh, or haram. allah has stated in the quran that the messengers had azwajan.

          if you do not read the quran you will not see the proof.

          allah is the one who proves.

          1. Using God's name in vain does not make your point any more or less incorrect.
          2. Polygamy is a term used for multiple marriages and hence is a broader term that encompasses polygyny - big deal (I could also correct your grammar, punctuation but that it not the point of the discussion - go figure why you have pointed out this irrelevancy).
          3. As was mentioned at the beginning of the discussion the taking of more than one wife may be allowed, but only under certain circumstances. This is mentioned in God's revelation ('if you have orphans you feel you cannot deal with etc'.). You seem to have ignored this in God's revelation, yet then go on to write 'allah is the one who proves' (see point 1.).
          4. It was only after I had posted that I realized some others had also pointed out the fallacies of your 'argument'. It is better for everyone if we all maintain our humility and grow spiritually as we are all seeking to better understand God's message.

          Roshan

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            afridi220
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            Samia.... & do not fail & otherwise, Al Araf will Kick all of us out of the Forum, so he can Rest... Samia, should I panic?

            ALLAH IS THE LAW GIVER jedi

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              Jasmin
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              I do not know why Samia is taking so long to provide the proof? oh...maybe she is waiting for Al to accept her Challenge rotfl
              Come on Al, do not be afraid from a Woman...you the Man yes

              Al come on! be a man and accept the challenge muscle

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                afridi220
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                Al come on! be a man and accept the challenge muscle

                Are you inviting him for wrestling? wow

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                  Jasmin
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                  Are you inviting him for wrestling? wow

                  hahahahahah....Princess J does not wrestle ;D

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                    afridi220
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                    hahahahahah....Princess J does not wrestle ;D

                    Ok princess then who is you Allah din? ;D

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                      Jasmin
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                      Ok princess then who is you Allah din? ;D

                      ;D ;D.....??

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                        afridi220
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                        ;D ;D.....??

                        Ok you dont want to tell no prob.. But im sure AL will say it is haram !

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                          Jasmin
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                          Ok you dont want to tell no prob.. But im sure AL will say it is haram !

                          LOL ;D i think your right!....might aswell avoid a lecture.. angel

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                            liquiddharma
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                            This thread was inspired by 'Hope'...all due credit goes to her for coming up with such a genius idea! ;D sun

                            So guys...what do you really think?...

                            (I forgot to add that mothers/sisters/grandmothers...etc are excluded)

                            There's also platonic love for female friends whom you do not have sex with.

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                              mmkhan
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                              Salaam brother Al Araf,

                              salam belh and mmkhan.

                              both of you claimthere is no verse of the quran that says "quran is the final laws"

                              mmkhan you saythere is no verse of the quran that says "nothing is left out of the book"
                              there is no verse of the quran that says "the present torah does not have the nur and guidance"
                              there is no verse in the quran that says "they were given the same as us"

                              did shaitan whisper this in your ears?
                              did you add these words to the quran?

                              allah separates falsehood from the truth.

                              I am surprised to hear from you... Allah says "... wa lahum a'ayunun la yubsiroona biha..." Don't you see what I have quoted the aayat numbers with it?

                              May Allah guide you and all of us towards the correct path. pr

                              Khan

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                                Jasmin
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                                There's also platonic love for female friends whom you do not have sex with.

                                thats what etc. stands for... ;D

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                                  Al_Araf
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                                  salam samia. i asked you before, when you misled people claiming the root of mhymna is hmn, why you didnt "ban yourself" for a week, as you should have done. i said this because you said people "ban themselves" by your rule you should have banned yourself. of course you are being deceitful by trying to make a deal. this is not a souk where you are going to haggle with me over ever last piaster. forget your deals. you have deceitfully evaded the issue. i knew you would.

                                  since you have made the same error as before i will give you the same answer to begin with. you claimed before, that you were using lisan ul arab for your definitions, i told you at that time throw your lisan ul arab in the trash. instead of throwing it in the trash, you went back to it again, and made another mistake. stop translating arabic, or discussing the meaning of arabic words.

                                  the adjective mhymna predates arabic, it is originally an aramaic adjective. both arabic and aramaic use exactly the same letters to form exactly the same word. the root verb of mhymna is hymna which means belief in aramaic. some sources state that the older root of hymna is amn.

                                  i saw your ridiculous claim that the root is hmn, where did you throw the y? did it fall off the page all of a sudden?

                                  adj. trustworthy (---> ? part.pass., ; CPA \f7mhymN\f1 LSp 11, SA Ham 523156+) sg. he was found trustworthy FPT Dt 338; TN ib.; > {}<> > in order to be called trustworthy Git 47a(24); a trustworthy person EchRG 1433; TN Num 2716; pl. <>{} three trustworthy leaders FPT Gen 4012; TN ib.

                                  http//cal1.cn.huc.edu/cgi-bin/jpaoff.cgi?off=1275258

                                  hymn vb. to believe

                                  quad 1 to believe Com. 2 to entrust with Palm, Sam, Syr. 3 to bring faith to Syr. 4 to make familiar Syr. 5 to make into a eunuch Syr. 6 to admit as evidence JBA. 7 p.p. see s.v. mhymn adj. Com.

                                  quad T 1 to be believed Syr. 2 to be confirmed Sam, Syr. 3 to be reliable Syr. 4 to be committed to Syr. 5 to be done with confidence Syr. 6 to promise Syr. 7 to be commissioned Sam.

                                  http//cal1.cn.huc.edu/searchroots.php

                                  Strong's Number 01968 Original Word Word Origin !myh probably from (0539)
                                  Transliterated Word TDNT Entry Heyman None Phonetic Spelling Parts of Speech hay-mawn' Proper Name Masculine
                                  Definition Heman = "faithful"

                                  http//classicbst.crosswalk.com/Lexicons/Hebrew/heb.cgi?number=01968&version=kjv

                                  Strong's Number 0539 Original Word Word Origin !ma a primitive root
                                  Transliterated Word TDNT Entry 'aman TWOT - 116
                                  Phonetic Spelling Parts of Speech

                                  aw-man' Verb

                                  Definition

                                  1. to support, confirm, be faithful a. (Qal)
                                  2. to support, confirm, be faithful, uphold, nourish 1a
                                    b. foster-father (subst.) 1a
                                    c. foster-mother, nurse 1a
                                    d. pillars, supporters of the door
                                    e. (Niphal)
                                  3. to be established, be faithful, be carried, make firm 1b
                                    f. to be carried by a nurse 1b
                                    g. made firm, sure, lasting 1b
                                    h. confirmed, established, sure 1b
                                    i. verified, confirmed 1b
                                    j. reliable, faithful, trusty
                                    k. (Hiphil)
                                  4. to stand firm, to trust, to be certain, to believe in 1c
                                    l. stand firm 1c
                                    m. trust, believe

                                  http//classicbst.crosswalk.com/Lexicons/Hebrew/heb.cgi?number=539&version=kjv

                                  allah taught man the names of all things

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                                    Alen
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                                    Peace,
                                    Respectfully.

                                    This calls for a script for possible realities if a man is single, then he can and will love more then one woman, God willing.
                                    But if this same man suddenlly falls for a woman of his imagination and she exxists in his zip code, God willing, then he can and will love only her - only one woman.
                                    Right now i'm happily in love with the most beautiful woman on the planet, Thank God and may God accelerate the process of us getting together, God willing.

                                    Glory be to our God.
                                    Peace.

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                                      nerspi
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                                      peace

                                      This calls for a script for possible realities if a man is single, then he can and will love more then one woman, God willing.
                                      But if this same man suddenlly falls for a woman of his imagination and she exxists in his zip code, God willing, then he can and will love only her - only one woman.
                                      Right now i'm happily in love with the most beautiful woman on the planet, Thank God and may God accelerate the process of us getting together, God willing.
                                      Glory be to our God.
                                      Peace.

                                      stop stealing my ideas man ;D
                                      God willing there will be such a movie (called almost a love song), which i plan to make )

                                      but to answer the original question i'd say it depends on the man, some could, some not.

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                                        anna
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                                        i have a question for the men, and try to clear you minds from all beleifs for a moment, if it was legal and accepted by society as a norm would men love more then one and marry ??

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                                          liquiddharma
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                                          All men are different, Anna. Some men, like me, wouldn't. Other men wouldn't be in love with many women, but would marry them anyway for the sex, like the rich arabs in Saudi Arabia.

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