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Samia.... & do not fail & otherwise, Al Araf will Kick all of us out of the Forum, so he can Rest... Samia, should I panic?
hehehe! I was asleep! It was almost midnight when I posted my "offer"! It's now 633 a.m. Only about 7 hours passed
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Nine hours and no reponse? I take it you can't make a decision, and I understand. However, I will not wait indefinitely for your acceptance.
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salam roshan. before you post you should check the quran in your hand.
if you spoke english better, you would know multiple wives is not polygamy. it is polygyny. mistake number one.
if you had actually read the quran, you would have seen the word "azwaajan" or wives, plural. allah speaks of that which he has established for mankind. allah has spoken of azwajan, allah has not stated azwajan as fawahish, makruh, or haram. allah has stated in the quran that the messengers had azwajan.
if you do not read the quran you will not see the proof.
allah is the one who proves.
- Using God's name in vain does not make your point any more or less incorrect.
- Polygamy is a term used for multiple marriages and hence is a broader term that encompasses polygyny - big deal (I could also correct your grammar, punctuation but that it not the point of the discussion - go figure why you have pointed out this irrelevancy).
- As was mentioned at the beginning of the discussion the taking of more than one wife may be allowed, but only under certain circumstances. This is mentioned in God's revelation ('if you have orphans you feel you cannot deal with etc'.). You seem to have ignored this in God's revelation, yet then go on to write 'allah is the one who proves' (see point 1.).
- It was only after I had posted that I realized some others had also pointed out the fallacies of your 'argument'. It is better for everyone if we all maintain our humility and grow spiritually as we are all seeking to better understand God's message.
Roshan
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This thread was inspired by 'Hope'...all due credit goes to her for coming up with such a genius idea! ;D sun
So guys...what do you really think?...
(I forgot to add that mothers/sisters/grandmothers...etc are excluded)
There's also platonic love for female friends whom you do not have sex with.
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Salaam brother Al Araf,
salam belh and mmkhan.
both of you claimthere is no verse of the quran that says "quran is the final laws"
mmkhan you saythere is no verse of the quran that says "nothing is left out of the book"
there is no verse of the quran that says "the present torah does not have the nur and guidance"
there is no verse in the quran that says "they were given the same as us"did shaitan whisper this in your ears?
did you add these words to the quran?allah separates falsehood from the truth.
I am surprised to hear from you... Allah says "... wa lahum a'ayunun la yubsiroona biha..." Don't you see what I have quoted the aayat numbers with it?
May Allah guide you and all of us towards the correct path. pr
Khan
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salam samia. i asked you before, when you misled people claiming the root of mhymna is hmn, why you didnt "ban yourself" for a week, as you should have done. i said this because you said people "ban themselves" by your rule you should have banned yourself. of course you are being deceitful by trying to make a deal. this is not a souk where you are going to haggle with me over ever last piaster. forget your deals. you have deceitfully evaded the issue. i knew you would.
since you have made the same error as before i will give you the same answer to begin with. you claimed before, that you were using lisan ul arab for your definitions, i told you at that time throw your lisan ul arab in the trash. instead of throwing it in the trash, you went back to it again, and made another mistake. stop translating arabic, or discussing the meaning of arabic words.
the adjective mhymna predates arabic, it is originally an aramaic adjective. both arabic and aramaic use exactly the same letters to form exactly the same word. the root verb of mhymna is hymna which means belief in aramaic. some sources state that the older root of hymna is amn.
i saw your ridiculous claim that the root is hmn, where did you throw the y? did it fall off the page all of a sudden?
adj. trustworthy (---> ? part.pass., ; CPA \f7mhymN\f1 LSp 11, SA Ham 523156+) sg. he was found trustworthy FPT Dt 338; TN ib.; > {}<> > in order to be called trustworthy Git 47a(24); a trustworthy person EchRG 1433; TN Num 2716; pl. <>{} three trustworthy leaders FPT Gen 4012; TN ib.
http//cal1.cn.huc.edu/cgi-bin/jpaoff.cgi?off=1275258
hymn vb. to believe
quad 1 to believe Com. 2 to entrust with Palm, Sam, Syr. 3 to bring faith to Syr. 4 to make familiar Syr. 5 to make into a eunuch Syr. 6 to admit as evidence JBA. 7 p.p. see s.v. mhymn adj. Com.
quad T 1 to be believed Syr. 2 to be confirmed Sam, Syr. 3 to be reliable Syr. 4 to be committed to Syr. 5 to be done with confidence Syr. 6 to promise Syr. 7 to be commissioned Sam.
http//cal1.cn.huc.edu/searchroots.php
Strong's Number 01968 Original Word Word Origin !myh probably from (0539)
Transliterated Word TDNT Entry Heyman None Phonetic Spelling Parts of Speech hay-mawn' Proper Name Masculine
Definition Heman = "faithful"http//classicbst.crosswalk.com/Lexicons/Hebrew/heb.cgi?number=01968&version=kjv
Strong's Number 0539 Original Word Word Origin !ma a primitive root
Transliterated Word TDNT Entry 'aman TWOT - 116
Phonetic Spelling Parts of Speechaw-man' Verb
Definition
- to support, confirm, be faithful a. (Qal)
- to support, confirm, be faithful, uphold, nourish 1a
b. foster-father (subst.) 1a
c. foster-mother, nurse 1a
d. pillars, supporters of the door
e. (Niphal) - to be established, be faithful, be carried, make firm 1b
f. to be carried by a nurse 1b
g. made firm, sure, lasting 1b
h. confirmed, established, sure 1b
i. verified, confirmed 1b
j. reliable, faithful, trusty
k. (Hiphil) - to stand firm, to trust, to be certain, to believe in 1c
l. stand firm 1c
m. trust, believe
http//classicbst.crosswalk.com/Lexicons/Hebrew/heb.cgi?number=539&version=kjv
allah taught man the names of all things
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Peace,
Respectfully.This calls for a script for possible realities if a man is single, then he can and will love more then one woman, God willing.
But if this same man suddenlly falls for a woman of his imagination and she exxists in his zip code, God willing, then he can and will love only her - only one woman.
Right now i'm happily in love with the most beautiful woman on the planet, Thank God and may God accelerate the process of us getting together, God willing.Glory be to our God.
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This calls for a script for possible realities if a man is single, then he can and will love more then one woman, God willing.
But if this same man suddenlly falls for a woman of his imagination and she exxists in his zip code, God willing, then he can and will love only her - only one woman.
Right now i'm happily in love with the most beautiful woman on the planet, Thank God and may God accelerate the process of us getting together, God willing.
Glory be to our God.
Peace.stop stealing my ideas man ;D
God willing there will be such a movie (called almost a love song), which i plan to make )but to answer the original question i'd say it depends on the man, some could, some not.
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All men are different, Anna. Some men, like me, wouldn't. Other men wouldn't be in love with many women, but would marry them anyway for the sex, like the rich arabs in Saudi Arabia.
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salam siki. no akhi that translation is a complete mistake.
the arabic word for supersede is "alagh" and supersedes is "yalghi" neither alagh or yalghi are in that sura.
54 wanzalna alayka alkitab balhaq musadiqa lama bayn yadyh min alkitab. this translates to sent upon you is the book of truth confirming that before of the book.
the word musadiqa means confirming. it does not mean superseding. the word kitab means book. it does not mean scripture. there is mistake after mistake. i cannot agree with the above.
therefore 54 is saying the kitab given to muhamad confirms the kitab given to musa, daud, and isa.
allah is the knower.
peace al araf
thanks for this comment. i have been wondering if the quran confirms or supersedes or both the previous scriptures.
now if the correct rendering would only be that it confirms, then whatever is in the quran must be found in the previous scriptures (e.g. meat of pig is forbidden, etc.) & that whatever is not in the quran must not be found in the other scriptures (e.g. Lot sleeping with his daughters, the "story" of Samson & Delilah, etc.).
it could be that the translation relating to "supersedes" is a derivation of "confirms". it could be that since the quran has everything that is in the previous scriptures, then following it (viz. supersedes) is following what is written in the previous scriptures.
God knows best.
salamun alaykum everyone...
ramon jedi O0