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Dates for fasting 2006.

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    ayman
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    Peace sister,

    This doesn't make it easier when you talk about different dates of fasting.

    I mean is it in July or September?

    Read the following article so that you know the basis for the July date for this year

    http//www.free-minds.org/articles/science/timing.htm

    Read the following article so that you know the basis for the September date

    http//www.free-minds.org/articles/science/calendars.htm

    Compare the understanding in the two articles and follow the one that you see is best.

    Peace,

    Ayman

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      SwedenMajidah
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      Salam Br Ayman,

      Thanks for your help!

      I must say that I found your article very interesting.

      I'm in the northern athmosphere because I live in Sweden, right!?

      Peace Sis Maria

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        zenje
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        I'll be on the look out for the moon. For everyone who's going to begin abstinence tomorrow... may it bring benefit physically, mentaly and spiritually.

        PEACE.

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          ayman
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          Peace brother Zein,

          I'll be on the look out for the moon. For everyone who's going to begin abstinence tomorrow... may it bring benefit physically, mentaly and spiritually.

          I wish you well on the abstinence too. This topic is also being discussed here

          http//www.free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=6238.0

          Peace and all best wishes,

          Ayman

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            truth
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            Peace Ayman,

            I no longer have a license for the program but I had used Starry Night Pro 4.5 which calculated those dates and I confirmed by visual examination.

            It seems to be confirmed by other calculators, so I believe there still can be discrepancy of one day or so and there are arguments for both starting earlier or later but it probably matters little overall.

            If you observe the following page you will see that the Full moon is July 11 as I had written earlier

            http//aa.usno.navy.mil/data/docs/MoonPhase.html

            NEW MOON FIRST QUARTER FULL MOON LAST QUARTER

            d h m d h m d h m d h m

            JAN. 6 18 56 JAN. 14 9 48 JAN. 22 15 14
            JAN. 29 14 15 FEB. 5 6 29 FEB. 13 4 44 FEB. 21 7 17
            FEB. 28 0 31 MAR. 6 20 16 MAR. 14 23 35 MAR. 22 19 11
            MAR. 29 10 15 APR. 5 12 01 APR. 13 16 40 APR. 21 3 28
            APR. 27 19 44 MAY 5 5 13 MAY 13 6 51 MAY 20 9 21
            MAY 27 5 26 JUNE 3 23 06 JUNE 11 18 03 JUNE 18 14 08
            JUNE 25 16 05 JULY 3 16 37 JULY 11 3 02 JULY 17 19 13
            JULY 25 4 31 AUG. 2 8 46 AUG. 9 10 54 AUG. 16 1 51
            AUG. 23 19 10 AUG. 31 22 57 SEPT. 7 18 42 SEPT. 14 11 15
            SEPT. 22 11 45 SEPT. 30 11 04 OCT. 7 3 13 OCT. 14 0 26
            OCT. 22 5 14 OCT. 29 21 25 NOV. 5 12 58 NOV. 12 17 45
            NOV. 20 22 18 NOV. 28 6 29 DEC. 5 0 25 DEC. 12 14 32
            DEC. 20 14 01 DEC. 27 14 48

            SO those who wish to may start as calculated above.

            My best regards,

            Oben

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              zenje
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              Thanks Br. Ayman,

              I found out a day late... but I'm in it now! )

              Peace

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                Read the following article so that you know the basis for the September date

                http//www.free-minds.org/articles/science/calendars.htm

                Peace Ayman,

                I don't see how this article supports a date in September?

                Ramadhan is the month of scorching heat, thus the fast begins with the first crescent moon after the summer solstice

                The first crescent after the summer solstice should be on June 26 or so? Right?

                Since the summer soltice is on June 21?

                Just got confused... Any ideas?

                Peace!

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                  ayman
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                  Peace Erik,

                  Read the following article so that you know the basis for the September date
                  http//www.free-minds.org/articles/science/calendars.htm
                  I don't see how this article supports a date in September?

                  Ramadhan is the month of scorching heat, thus the fast begins with the first crescent moon after the summer solstice

                  The first crescent after the summer solstice should be on June 26 or so? Right?
                  Since the summer soltice is on June 21?
                  Just got confused... Any ideas?

                  Since I posted my response to you, brother Layth has rewritten the article. His new version is more in line with my understanding in the other article that I pointed you to. The two main differences are as follow

                  1. Layth uses the new crescent moon as opposed to the full-moon as the meaning of "shahr".
                  2. Layth propsoes that the restriction period is before the scorching "shahr" as opposed to after it.

                  As I said earlier, the best thing to do is to read both articles along with the debates that Layth and I have been having here over the past month on this subject and then follow what is best.

                  I hope this helps.

                  Peace,

                  Ayman

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                    Insignia
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                    Peace Truth
                    Have you noticed this?
                    http//www.free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=6458.0

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                      No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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                      These dates avoid the historical truth. Not to mention there is a month of fasting. While The Prophet (SAW) was alive, ramadan coincided with the hebrew month of Kislev every year. It was only Omar 6 years after the death of Muhammad (PBUH) who decided not to put in the two intercaliary months needed by that time and the system has had 12 ever since. Why is truth so difficult for some to see?

                      If this is true, then Layth's position on Laylatul Qadr and fasting is correct, since the Kislev is arond the time of (the end of) November until December. And guess what...Hannukah was on December 21st in 2008. Another intersting fact is that Kislev is the 9th month in the Hebrew calendar, just like Ramadan is in the Hijri calendar.

                      I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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                        No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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                        Addition to my last post I am not sure if his idea of the calendar and ramadan is correct. I still follow the traditional calendar for Ramadan. Though, I have made an interesting observation as stated in my previous post.

                        I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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