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Anthony Wallace - a messenger or not?

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    TheAlinatore
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    Thanks, Progressive. I'm still relatively new to these boards (made an account a long time ago, but just started visiting/reading threads as of 2 weeks ago). I just read that thread you linked - unbelievable. I actually feel bad for him, I think in his own mind, whether due to mental illness, misguidance, instability, etc. he has been mislead into thinking he is God's messenger. Satan is a smart animal , he will use all kinds of manner to trick us into going astray. From my observations and experience, he tries harder on those who at one point or another, attempt to find and follow God.

    This is one reason why some of the greatest atrocities in human history have been committed in the name of God. We, as sincere devotees unto god must always keep our guard up, and always beware of his trickery, for deluding and tricking us into sin is his greatest tool (I have always referred to Satan as 'the great justifier&#039, and I've fallen for it many a time.

    The messenger the Quran spoke of was Muhammad, most of us do not doubt this, but he is long gone, and now only God and God's message remain. Not a single one of us is any better, different, or special with respects to God, we are all equally striving for His guidance, grace, love, and mercy, and not a soul has the right to claim they were chosen as his divine messenger to deliver it.

    God already gave us His message of submission unto Him and Him alone, and it was complete a very long time before any of us got here.

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      anthonywallace
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      Peace,

      If Anthony is a messenger,
      then I have some questions,
      Where da HELL is the Book of Moses?
      What da HECK is the Torah and Injil?
      Where da F*** is the Sacred House?
      When da HELL is Ramadan?
      What da HECK is Salat?
      What da SH*T is Riba?
      What da SCHMUCK is MMA?
      What da...whatever.

      Good Luck with the apocalypse. D

      Peace.

      Out.

      peace

      !
      The Book of Moses is the first five books in the Bible. Which is called the Torah. And the Gospel ( Ingel) is Matthew,Mark, Luke, John, and Acts.
      The Sacred House is in Mecca. Al-Salat ( the daily prayers ) is an ordainment on the believers at certain times. Rahmadan starts in the month of Rahmadan. Usary is like two for one. Or charging interest more than what law requires, or somethin like that. I dont know what MMA is. jedi

      I have a sincere question for you Mr. Wallace, please don't think I'm making fun of you. I do not accept you as a messenger, and do not think you are any different or more chosen/special than anyone else here. We know what the Quran says about denying the messenger. Do you make such claims that those who deny your messengership shall incur divine retribution? This is a sincere question, and one to perhaps open your eyes.

      Whoever follows me , then they are of me. And whoever disobeys me. Then my Lord is Forgiving, Merciful.

      469 Say ?I am no different from the other messengers, nor do I know what will happen to me or to you. I only follow what is inspired to me. I am no more than a clear warner? jedi

      And my name is Anthony Deshaun Wallace D

      My middle name is spelled Deshawn, not Deshaun. peace

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        TheAlinatore
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        Whoever follows me , then they are of me. And whoever disobeys me. Then my Lord is Forgiving, Merciful.

        469 Say ?I am no different from the other messengers, nor do I know what will happen to me or to you. I only follow what is inspired to me. I am no more than a clear warner? jedi

        Brother, I understand your train of thought, however you must know that the Quran is clearly referring to Muhammad, not you. I do believe that you think yourself divinely inspired, and I don't think you are necessarily a bad guy, but beware, Satan will use all manner to trick us. When we obey quran, we are not following you, we are following God. The Quran is a message, and that message was not brought nor carried by you. Please, you mustn't fall for his trickery, Satan whispers unto us as to lead us awry.

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          Brother, I understand your train of thought, however you must know that the Quran is clearly referring to Muhammad, not you. I do believe that you think yourself divinely inspired, and I don't think you are necessarily a bad guy, but beware, Satan will use all manner to trick us. When we obey quran, we are not following you, we are following God. The Quran is a message, and that message was not brought nor carried by you. Please, you mustn't fall for his trickery, Satan whispers unto us as to lead us awry.

          Peace
          If he is not a messenger ,then why does code 19 support him ?
          Regards

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            No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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            Peace
            If he is not a messenger ,then why does code 19 support him ?
            Regards

            lol, the code MAY SEEM support him, but he does not believe in the code.
            Besides, the method that Eid used is one of many. Check with Bahattin Uzunkaya, K.E. Emami and co. for different methods

            I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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              lol, the code MAY SEEM support him, but he does not believe in the code.
              Besides, the method that Eid used is one of many. Check with Bahattin Uzunkaya, K.E. Emami and co. for different methods P

              Peace
              This is how code 19 worshipper prove and deduce.Why is it wrong to deduce his messengership when the same methodology is applied.
              Regards

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                No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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                Peace
                This is how code 19 worshipper prove and deduce.Why is it wrong to deduce his messengership when the same methodology is applied.
                Regards

                Are you serious? Do you seriously want to start a discussion about this? Look at my last post. Maybe you will understand why it does not work.

                I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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                  No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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                  Please look at page 3 of this thread, where Anthony Wallace makes fun of someone who has been sexually abused

                  http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=16162.30

                  Look on this thread to see how Anthony Wallace calls believers "hypocrites" and "satan", etc.

                  http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9597477.30

                  I would not write this kind of stuff if it wasnt a serious issue and if Anthony would not be calling people bad names, making fun of others, having preconceptions/making easy judgments about others, etc.

                  Peace

                  I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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                    Are you serious? Do you seriously want to start a discussion about this? Look at my last post. Maybe you will understand why it does not work.

                    Peace
                    Then why does Code 19 support him ? Why is Code 19 not able to refute him ?
                    Regards

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                      No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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                      Peace
                      Then why does Code 19 support him ? Why is Code 19 not able to refute him ?
                      Regards

                      are you serious?

                      I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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                        Q_student
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                        are you serious?

                        Peace
                        Sure
                        Where is the authenticity of Code 19 which proves the evidence of "fraud messengers" ?
                        Regards

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                          almarh0m
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                          Brother Q_s

                          Do you think that RK was anymore a messenger than Mr. Anthony D Wallace ?

                          Peace

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                            Brother Q_s

                            Do you think that RK was anymore a messenger than Mr. Anthony D Wallace ?

                            Peace

                            Peace
                            Both are equally fraud.RK practically cheated the people with wrong and deceptive translation of the Quran.

                            Regards

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                              anthonywallace
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                              Brother, I understand your train of thought, however you must know that the Quran is clearly referring to Muhammad, not you. I do believe that you think yourself divinely inspired, and I don't think you are necessarily a bad guy, but beware, Satan will use all manner to trick us. When we obey quran, we are not following you, we are following God. The Quran is a message, and that message was not brought nor carried by you. Please, you mustn't fall for his trickery, Satan whispers unto us as to lead us awry.

                              Bring your proof if you truthful. And if I bear false witness, then you are innocent from what I do. And im innocent of what you do. The God will gather us all together and judge between us in what we dispute.

                              I seek refuge wit God from the wispers of the sneaking devils. And I seek refuge in Him lest they should come near.

                              These are my Lords messages to you

                              http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9598266.msg201711#msg201711

                              http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9598255.msg201710#msg201710

                              peace

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                                herbman
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                                euhhh I have a question

                                Is that you in the foto?

                                Peace

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                                  anthonywallace
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                                  euhhh I have a question o

                                  Is that you in the foto?

                                  Peace

                                  yea. What?

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                                    Munzir
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                                    Peace brother Anthony,

                                    You are just cutting and pasting verses from the Quran without the verse numbers, that's no big deal. I can do that, too. I don't see anything remarkably different about you from other members here.

                                    Anyway, its good that we have a messenger in this forum.

                                    Cheers! ADW.

                                    Godless

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                                      No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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                                      Look, Anthony,

                                      I think you missed my post. With all due respect, how do you explain this? (the following is from an earlier post)

                                      Please look at page 3 of this thread, where Anthony Wallace makes fun of someone who has been sexually abused

                                      http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=16162.30

                                      Look on this thread to see how Anthony Wallace calls believers "hypocrites" and "satan", etc.

                                      http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9597477.30

                                      I would not write this kind of stuff if it wasnt a serious issue and if Anthony would not be calling people bad names, making fun of others, having preconceptions/making easy judgments about others, etc.

                                      I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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                                        anthonywallace
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                                        Peace brother Anthony,

                                        You are just cutting and pasting verses from the Quran without the verse numbers, that's no big deal. I can do that, too. I don't see anything remarkably different about you from other members here.

                                        Anyway, its good that we have a messenger in this forum.

                                        Cheers! ADW.

                                        Godless

                                        Peace Bro,

                                        Do you want to know what makes me so different than other members on this forum? Is that I claim to be Gods messenger. jedi

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                                          TheAlinatore
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                                          Brother Anthony,

                                          I have viewed your links, and while I agree with some of your views (and held those beliefs long, long ago), you still bring no new message outside of the Quran, only your understanding of it. The duty of a messenger is to deliver a message, you cannot take someone else's message and claim to deliver it as your own. I simply tell you this so you do not squander God's gift of wisdom, for God grants wisdom to whom He pleases. One cannot simply take their understanding of a message and then claim to have been divinely authorized to deliver it. The Quran is VERY clear that we are to use our own individual reason when studying it, and strongly emphasizes that "No soul shall bear another's burden". In essence, God is telling us NOT to rely on other people for understanding of His word, but to seek guidance individually through Him.

                                          When you take your individual understanding of the Quran Anthony, and try to pass it off on others under the guise of being a 'divinely chosen messenger', you directly contradict what God tells us about using our own reasoning and understanding to understand His word. Furthermore, you simply use the message already in place, tkae your understanding of it, and claim to have brought a message. Brother Wallace, please hear me, you do not have a message, but you already possess God's message brought by Muhammad. This is my proof. We ALL have a different understanding of the Quran to some degree or another, but how DARE we try to pass off our understanding on others under the guise of being a messenger...This is to be gravely astray. Rashad fell into the same trap, in my opinion.

                                          One simply cannot attempt to pass their own understanding off on others, we are COMMANDED by God to not rely on others, forefathers, etc. for our understanding, but God telling us to seek guidance through Him alone. Your message Anthony, is your own understanding, and your claims of messegnership are attributing lies unto God, and this is why I am scared for you...

                                          1017 Who is more wicked than one who invents lies about God or denies His signs? The criminals will never succeed.

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