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Anthony Wallace - a messenger or not?

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    No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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    Peace
    If he is not a messenger ,then why does code 19 support him ?
    Regards

    lol, the code MAY SEEM support him, but he does not believe in the code.
    Besides, the method that Eid used is one of many. Check with Bahattin Uzunkaya, K.E. Emami and co. for different methods

    I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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      Q_student
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      lol, the code MAY SEEM support him, but he does not believe in the code.
      Besides, the method that Eid used is one of many. Check with Bahattin Uzunkaya, K.E. Emami and co. for different methods P

      Peace
      This is how code 19 worshipper prove and deduce.Why is it wrong to deduce his messengership when the same methodology is applied.
      Regards

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        No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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        Peace
        This is how code 19 worshipper prove and deduce.Why is it wrong to deduce his messengership when the same methodology is applied.
        Regards

        Are you serious? Do you seriously want to start a discussion about this? Look at my last post. Maybe you will understand why it does not work.

        I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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          No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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          Please look at page 3 of this thread, where Anthony Wallace makes fun of someone who has been sexually abused

          http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=16162.30

          Look on this thread to see how Anthony Wallace calls believers "hypocrites" and "satan", etc.

          http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9597477.30

          I would not write this kind of stuff if it wasnt a serious issue and if Anthony would not be calling people bad names, making fun of others, having preconceptions/making easy judgments about others, etc.

          Peace

          I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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            Q_student
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            Are you serious? Do you seriously want to start a discussion about this? Look at my last post. Maybe you will understand why it does not work.

            Peace
            Then why does Code 19 support him ? Why is Code 19 not able to refute him ?
            Regards

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              No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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              Peace
              Then why does Code 19 support him ? Why is Code 19 not able to refute him ?
              Regards

              are you serious?

              I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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                are you serious?

                Peace
                Sure
                Where is the authenticity of Code 19 which proves the evidence of "fraud messengers" ?
                Regards

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                  almarh0m
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                  Brother Q_s

                  Do you think that RK was anymore a messenger than Mr. Anthony D Wallace ?

                  Peace

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                    Brother Q_s

                    Do you think that RK was anymore a messenger than Mr. Anthony D Wallace ?

                    Peace

                    Peace
                    Both are equally fraud.RK practically cheated the people with wrong and deceptive translation of the Quran.

                    Regards

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                      anthonywallace
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                      Brother, I understand your train of thought, however you must know that the Quran is clearly referring to Muhammad, not you. I do believe that you think yourself divinely inspired, and I don't think you are necessarily a bad guy, but beware, Satan will use all manner to trick us. When we obey quran, we are not following you, we are following God. The Quran is a message, and that message was not brought nor carried by you. Please, you mustn't fall for his trickery, Satan whispers unto us as to lead us awry.

                      Bring your proof if you truthful. And if I bear false witness, then you are innocent from what I do. And im innocent of what you do. The God will gather us all together and judge between us in what we dispute.

                      I seek refuge wit God from the wispers of the sneaking devils. And I seek refuge in Him lest they should come near.

                      These are my Lords messages to you

                      http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9598266.msg201711#msg201711

                      http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9598255.msg201710#msg201710

                      peace

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                        herbman
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                        euhhh I have a question

                        Is that you in the foto?

                        Peace

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                          anthonywallace
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                          euhhh I have a question o

                          Is that you in the foto?

                          Peace

                          yea. What?

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                            Munzir
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                            Peace brother Anthony,

                            You are just cutting and pasting verses from the Quran without the verse numbers, that's no big deal. I can do that, too. I don't see anything remarkably different about you from other members here.

                            Anyway, its good that we have a messenger in this forum.

                            Cheers! ADW.

                            Godless

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                              No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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                              Look, Anthony,

                              I think you missed my post. With all due respect, how do you explain this? (the following is from an earlier post)

                              Please look at page 3 of this thread, where Anthony Wallace makes fun of someone who has been sexually abused

                              http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=16162.30

                              Look on this thread to see how Anthony Wallace calls believers "hypocrites" and "satan", etc.

                              http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9597477.30

                              I would not write this kind of stuff if it wasnt a serious issue and if Anthony would not be calling people bad names, making fun of others, having preconceptions/making easy judgments about others, etc.

                              I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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                                anthonywallace
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                                Peace brother Anthony,

                                You are just cutting and pasting verses from the Quran without the verse numbers, that's no big deal. I can do that, too. I don't see anything remarkably different about you from other members here.

                                Anyway, its good that we have a messenger in this forum.

                                Cheers! ADW.

                                Godless

                                Peace Bro,

                                Do you want to know what makes me so different than other members on this forum? Is that I claim to be Gods messenger. jedi

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                                  TheAlinatore
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                                  Brother Anthony,

                                  I have viewed your links, and while I agree with some of your views (and held those beliefs long, long ago), you still bring no new message outside of the Quran, only your understanding of it. The duty of a messenger is to deliver a message, you cannot take someone else's message and claim to deliver it as your own. I simply tell you this so you do not squander God's gift of wisdom, for God grants wisdom to whom He pleases. One cannot simply take their understanding of a message and then claim to have been divinely authorized to deliver it. The Quran is VERY clear that we are to use our own individual reason when studying it, and strongly emphasizes that "No soul shall bear another's burden". In essence, God is telling us NOT to rely on other people for understanding of His word, but to seek guidance individually through Him.

                                  When you take your individual understanding of the Quran Anthony, and try to pass it off on others under the guise of being a 'divinely chosen messenger', you directly contradict what God tells us about using our own reasoning and understanding to understand His word. Furthermore, you simply use the message already in place, tkae your understanding of it, and claim to have brought a message. Brother Wallace, please hear me, you do not have a message, but you already possess God's message brought by Muhammad. This is my proof. We ALL have a different understanding of the Quran to some degree or another, but how DARE we try to pass off our understanding on others under the guise of being a messenger...This is to be gravely astray. Rashad fell into the same trap, in my opinion.

                                  One simply cannot attempt to pass their own understanding off on others, we are COMMANDED by God to not rely on others, forefathers, etc. for our understanding, but God telling us to seek guidance through Him alone. Your message Anthony, is your own understanding, and your claims of messegnership are attributing lies unto God, and this is why I am scared for you...

                                  1017 Who is more wicked than one who invents lies about God or denies His signs? The criminals will never succeed.

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                                    Munzir
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                                    Peace Bro Anthony,

                                    That's no big deal either. Messengers come and messengers go.Simple as that!

                                    Godbless.

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                                      herbman
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                                      yea. What?

                                      Take it easy, it was just out of curiosity.

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                                        Q_student
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                                        Brother Anthony,

                                        I have viewed your links, and while I agree with some of your views (and held those beliefs long, long ago), you still bring no new message outside of the Quran, only your understanding of it. The duty of a messenger is to deliver a message, you cannot take someone else's message and claim to deliver it as your own. I simply tell you this so you do not squander God's gift of wisdom, for God grants wisdom to whom He pleases. One cannot simply take their understanding of a message and then claim to have been divinely authorized to deliver it. The Quran is VERY clear that we are to use our own individual reason when studying it, and strongly emphasizes that "No soul shall bear another's burden". In essence, God is telling us NOT to rely on other people for understanding of His word, but to seek guidance individually through Him.

                                        When you take your individual understanding of the Quran Anthony, and try to pass it off on others under the guise of being a 'divinely chosen messenger', you directly contradict what God tells us about using our own reasoning and understanding to understand His word. Furthermore, you simply use the message already in place, tkae your understanding of it, and claim to have brought a message. Brother Wallace, please hear me, you do not have a message, but you already possess God's message brought by Muhammad. This is my proof. We ALL have a different understanding of the Quran to some degree or another, but how DARE we try to pass off our understanding on others under the guise of being a messenger...This is to be gravely astray. Rashad fell into the same trap, in my opinion.

                                        One simply cannot attempt to pass their own understanding off on others, we are COMMANDED by God to not rely on others, forefathers, etc. for our understanding, but God telling us to seek guidance through Him alone. Your message Anthony, is your own understanding, and your claims of messegnership are attributing lies unto God, and this is why I am scared for you...

                                        1017 Who is more wicked than one who invents lies about God or denies His signs? The criminals will never succeed.

                                        Peace
                                        Which book was revealed to RK?
                                        Regards

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                                          MUNZIR_ALI
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                                          every body on this forum is a messenger in my opinion

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