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Anthony Wallace - a messenger or not?

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    No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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    Anthony,

    do you believe your "commandments" are authorized by God?

    I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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      Where are your clear proofs then?

      You skipped my post. Do you have an answer?

      Yes I have an answer. You just have to practice paitence and wait and not be hasty like most. My computer time is limited right now. O.k...?

      Dont be a rejecter. It should be enuff clear proof for you that God has sent down the Scripture being recited to you. And if not, then no matter what proof I show you , you wont be able to see it. It should be enuff proof that what my rejecters say matches what the rejecters say in Quran. It should be enuff proof for you that TheAlinatore said to his messenger " Should mere human beings guide us?" Similarly this is what those who rejected said before to their messengers " Shall mere human beings guide us?" If thats not enuff proof for you then just contine to wait, and I will wait.

      Do you want to know what the clear proof is? It is a messenger from God who recites purifyed Scripts.

      Dont be a rejecter, denyer.

      1410 Their messengers said ?Is there doubt regarding God, the initiator of the heavens and the Earth? He invites you so that He may forgive some of your sins, and grant you until a predetermined time.? They said ?You are but humans like us, you wish to turn us away from what our fathers used to serve. So come to us with clear proof.?

      981 Those who rejected amongst the people of the Scripture and those who set up partners would not leave until proof came to them.
      982 A messenger from God reciting purified scripts.
      983 In them are valuable books.
      984 And those who had previously received the Scripture did not divide except after the proof came to them.
      985 And they were not commanded except to serve God and be loyal to His system, monotheists, and uphold the communion and contribute towards betterment. Such is the valuable system.

      Anthony,

      do you believe your "commandments" are authorized by God?

      What do you mean , dude?

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        No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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        What do you mean , dude?

        Well, you said that you're the one who gives the so-called "commandments" and we should not tell you to do anything.
        So I ask you DO YOU THINK THAT YOUR "COMMANDMENTS" ARE AUTHORIZED BY GOD?

        Besides, waht is your message? Where is your proof?
        If your message is "follow Quran alone" then this is not the place for proclaiming your message. You should be out there and preach "Quran alone" to the people. Look at what Rashad Khalifa did (note i dont care if you think he was a messenger or not) and look at what Prophet Muhammad did - they preached God's message to the people and took risks.

        I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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          nsws1988
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          Yes I have an answer. You just have to practice paitence and wait and not be hasty like most. My computer time is limited right now. O.k...?

          Yeah right! You write articles after articles about you being a messenger and how we can't reject you but you can't even give us the message. Isn't that your job, to give us the message? Even just one short sentence? What is a messenger without a message to give?

          Dont be a rejecter. It should be enuff clear proof for you that God has sent down the Scripture being recited to you

          Thats what we've been telling you. That the Quran is enough. Why do we need you if we have the Quran?

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            TheAlinatore
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            TheAlinatore said to his messenger " Should mere human beings guide us?" Similarly this is what those who rejected said before to their messengers " Shall mere human beings guide us?" If thats not enuff proof for you then just contine to wait, and I will wait.

            First of all, you are NOT my messenger Anthony. I reject you and your idolatrous claims (idolatrous because I already accept God and His message and turn to him ALONE for guidance). You have brought NO NEW MESSAGE Anthony, only your interpretation of the Quran (we all have an interpretation of it). Your only difference is that yours is somehow better or more authorized because you are a 'messenger'. How little you reflect, for you are different from most because Satan has caused you to slander God. You also use His words against people for whom they are clearly not speaking (such as verses for denying the messenger when in fact I accept his message). The messengers before 'you' brought a message - you did not.

            Also, I did not respond to your above post because it was way too long and my time is extremely limited (I've only been home 1 day in the past 2 weeks and have to leave early again tomorrow).

            In summation, you accuse the verse above of talking about me, when in fact it is not. Why, you ask? Because I ACCEPT the humans/messengers (and message) spoke of in the very verse you try to use against me. PROOF POSITIVE it is not talking about me. Proof positive that it is NOT talking about you!

            Anyway, you have no basis and never had one for being a messenger in the first place, except for stealing another messenger's message and claiming it as your own. How very sad my friend, how very sad. Good luck with all of that, you may need it in the next life. handshake

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              No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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              Anthony,

              DO YOU THINK THAT YOUR "COMMANDMENTS" ARE AUTHORIZED BY GOD?

              Besides, whatt is your message? Where is your proof?
              If your message is "follow Quran alone" then this is not the place for proclaiming your message. You should be out there and preach "Quran alone" to the people. Look at what Rashad Khalifa did (note i dont care if you think he was a messenger or not) and look at what Prophet Muhammad did - they preached God's message to the people and took risks.

              @everyone

              http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9598266.15

              Peace

              I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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                Peace

                Anthony,

                DO YOU THINK THAT YOUR "COMMANDMENTS" ARE AUTHORIZED BY GOD?

                Besides, whatt is your message? Where is your proof?
                If your message is "follow Quran alone" then this is not the place for proclaiming your message. You should be out there and preach "Quran alone" to the people. Look at what Rashad Khalifa did (note i dont care if you think he was a messenger or not) and look at what Prophet Muhammad did - they preached God's message to the people and took risks.

                @everyone

                http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9598266.15

                Peace

                Do you really think that Mr. Anthony Wallace believes that he is a "messenger" ? Is that why he prefers to preach in the safety of the internet , out of harm's way ?

                Peace

                almarh0m

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                  Yes I have an answer. You just have to practice paitence and wait and not be hasty like most. My computer time is limited right now. O.k...?

                  Yeah right! You write articles after articles about you being a messenger and how we can't reject you but you can't even give us the message. Isn't that your job, to give us the message? Even just one short sentence? What is a messenger without a message to give?

                  Dont be a rejecter. It should be enuff clear proof for you that God has sent down the Scripture being recited to you

                  Thats what we've been telling you. That the Quran is enough. Why do we need you if we have the Quran?

                  The articles i write are responses. I only claimed to be messenger. Youll the ones who make a big deal out of it. The reason it take so long cause i like to know what im talkin bout when i talk. And for the rejecters one sentance isnt enuff. They must be spoken to with a clear saying.

                  First of all, you are NOT my messenger Anthony. I reject you and your idolatrous claims (idolatrous because I already accept God and His message and turn to him ALONE for guidance). You have brought NO NEW MESSAGE Anthony, only your interpretation of the Quran (we all have an interpretation of it). Your only difference is that yours is somehow better or more authorized because you are a 'messenger'. How little you reflect, for you are different from most because Satan has caused you to slander God. You also use His words against people for whom they are clearly not speaking (such as verses for denying the messenger when in fact I accept his message). The messengers before 'you' brought a message - you did not.

                  Also, I did not respond to your above post because it was way too long and my time is extremely limited (I've only been home 1 day in the past 2 weeks and have to leave early again tomorrow).

                  In summation, you accuse the verse above of talking about me, when in fact it is not. Why, you ask? Because I ACCEPT the humans/messengers (and message) spoke of in the very verse you try to use against me. PROOF POSITIVE it is not talking about me. Proof positive that it is NOT talking about you!

                  Anyway, you have no basis and never had one for being a messenger in the first place, except for stealing another messenger's message and claiming it as your own. How very sad my friend, how very sad. Good luck with all of that, you may need it in the next life. handshake

                  I dont care what you think dude.

                  You will be defeated and gathered towards Hell. What a miserable destiny. You didnt respond cause you caint and you know what i said is the truth and you are a people who set up equals....

                  Anthony,

                  DO YOU THINK THAT YOUR "COMMANDMENTS" ARE AUTHORIZED BY GOD?

                  Besides, whatt is your message? Where is your proof?
                  If your message is "follow Quran alone" then this is not the place for proclaiming your message. You should be out there and preach "Quran alone" to the people. Look at what Rashad Khalifa did (note i dont care if you think he was a messenger or not) and look at what Prophet Muhammad did - they preached God's message to the people and took risks.

                  @everyone

                  http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9598266.15

                  Peace

                  Why do you keep twisting the truth and accusin me falsly?

                  I didnt say I give the "commandments." And I didnt say that " you all" should not tell me to do anything. I said that " you- the rejecter,hypocrite" do not tell me what to do.

                  God gives te "commandments. God and His messenger gives the orders. And also those in authority amonst you and the believers give the orders.

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                    anthonywallace
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                    My message

                    " Serve God and avoid evil."

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                      anthonywallace
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                      Peace

                      Do you really think that Mr. Anthony Wallace believes that he is a "messenger" ? Is that why he prefers to preach in the safety of the internet , out of harm's way ?

                      Peace

                      almarh0m

                      And what about you? You on the internet, too. And you dont know were I preach. Talk what you know. And im not stupid. And God is my protecter....

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                        I dont care what you think dude.

                        You will be defeated and gathered towards Hell. What a miserable destiny. You didnt respond cause you caint and you know what i said is the truth and you are a people who set up equals....

                        That's good Anthony, you honestly shouldn't care what I think. That said, see how you judge when such a right is reserved for God alone? Also, completely devoid of logic is your statement to tell someone who rejects man and accepts no one but God alone that they are setting up equals with Him. I'm not kidding here, zero logic in your judgment.

                        Maybe you should put the whole messenger thing on the back burner and sell Shamwows or something, it may prove more successful and useful.

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                          TheAlinatore
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                          P.S. Who keeps voting for this guy? I'm guessing you must have 4 accounts here, right Anthony?

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                            TAJ
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                            Peace,

                            P.S. Who keeps voting for this guy? I'm guessing you must have 4 accounts here, right Anthony?

                            Quite obvious ;D

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                              Peace,

                              This thread is like beating a dead horse. I would really like those who are in favor of Anthony Wallace, who voted for him, his followers, to come along and write in his defense. Otherwise, there is no point in continuing.

                              peace

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                                First of all, you are NOT my messenger Anthony. I reject you and your idolatrous claims (idolatrous because I already accept God and His message and turn to him ALONE for guidance). You have brought NO NEW MESSAGE Anthony, only your interpretation of the Quran (we all have an interpretation of it). Your only difference is that yours is somehow better or more authorized because you are a 'messenger'. How little you reflect, for you are different from most because Satan has caused you to slander God. You also use His words against people for whom they are clearly not speaking (such as verses for denying the messenger when in fact I accept his message). The messengers before 'you' brought a message - you did not.

                                Also, I did not respond to your above post because it was way too long and my time is extremely limited (I've only been home 1 day in the past 2 weeks and have to leave early again tomorrow).

                                A messenger can "confirm a scripture" but I think messengership/prophethood can be accepted though clear signs (not sure if messengers have to have miracles but I'm 80% sure they do) though obstinance doesn't count as a sign (Wallace), other than that, you pretty much nailed it. I doubt anyone else is reading through all his crap either. After all we have very busy lives, but let me ask, how many here think Wallace is actually a messenger? rotfl

                                For the record, this thread is ******* hilarious. A messenger on free-minds.org...laugh

                                But hey you know, I guess there's a chance he could be. After all, he is advocating the Quran alone, right? That's one step forward to being one. bravo

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                                  No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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                                  Why do you keep twisting the truth and accusin me falsly?

                                  I didnt say I give the "commandments." And I didnt say that " you all" should not tell me to do anything. I said that " you- the rejecter,hypocrite" do not tell me what to do.

                                  God gives te "commandments. God and His messenger gives the orders. And also those in authority amonst you and the believers give the orders.

                                  ACCUSING YOU FALSELY?!!

                                  This is what you said (from http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9598266.45)

                                  As for those who only guess at what saqar means, and so on... I will not follow your desires. If you dont know then you should just shut up if you knew what was better for you.

                                  Are you the messenger? Should we obey and follow you? Do you want to learn the Quran? Then why are you talking? Or is it the devil inspiring his supporters to argue with Gods messenger? Whoever challenges God and His messenegrs will lose. And whoever challenges God will be tortured severly. Why do you dispute about things you dont know? And reject Gods signs while you are bearing witness?

                                  @ everyone
                                  Also, please see my posts here
                                  http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=16162.30

                                  BTW this is something AW said in that thread
                                  Shut up, im bout gettin tired of you and all your false accusations

                                  I have not even falsely accused you of ONE thing, Anthony. In fact, I was the one who held back some comments that I wanted to make in the beginning, while others attacked you. But all you did was accusing me of lying, of accusing you of doing/saying certain things and many more things. You have made fun of people and told me to "shut up" and said that we have to obey you and that none of our opions are valid.

                                  If you truly were a messenger then you would follow this commandment

                                  16125 Invite to the path of your Lord with wisdom and good advice, and argue with them in the best possible manner. Your Lord is fully aware of who is misguided from His path, and He is fully aware of the guided ones.

                                  You should repent and reform - it's not too late.

                                  389 Except those who repent after this and reform, then God is Forgiver, Compassionate

                                  16119 Yet, your Lord, to those who repent and reform after committing evil out of ignorance, your Lord after that is Forgiving, Compassionate.

                                  Peace

                                  I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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                                    anthonywallace
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                                    God is our protecter. And I do invite to the path with wisdom and good advice. But most of youll dont like my advice.............

                                    The larger group will be defeated...

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                                      nsws1988
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                                      And for the rejecters one sentance isnt enuff.

                                      My message

                                      " Serve God and avoid evil."

                                      I thought you said one sentence isn't enough. Were you sent to us specifically? Because we are already serving God and avoiding evil.

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                                        144 And We have not sent any messenger except in the language of his people, so he may clarify to them. But God misguides whom He wills, and He guides whom He wills. And He is the Noble, the Wise.

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                                          anthonywallace
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                                          I thought you said one sentence isn't enough. Were you sent to us specifically? Because we are already serving God and avoiding evil.

                                          Thats why I say one sentance isnt enuff. Is it not enuff for me to say " Serve God and avoid evil?" If you are serving God and avoiding evil then you are doing good. But that still dont turn the reminder from you. I dont know who recieve the inspiration or message. My only duty is to deliver it. And it it for God to guide or misguide.........................

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