Anthony Wallace - a messenger or not?
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Yes I have an answer. You just have to practice paitence and wait and not be hasty like most. My computer time is limited right now. O.k...?
Yeah right! You write articles after articles about you being a messenger and how we can't reject you but you can't even give us the message. Isn't that your job, to give us the message? Even just one short sentence? What is a messenger without a message to give?
Dont be a rejecter. It should be enuff clear proof for you that God has sent down the Scripture being recited to you
Thats what we've been telling you. That the Quran is enough. Why do we need you if we have the Quran?
The articles i write are responses. I only claimed to be messenger. Youll the ones who make a big deal out of it. The reason it take so long cause i like to know what im talkin bout when i talk. And for the rejecters one sentance isnt enuff. They must be spoken to with a clear saying.
First of all, you are NOT my messenger Anthony. I reject you and your idolatrous claims (idolatrous because I already accept God and His message and turn to him ALONE for guidance). You have brought NO NEW MESSAGE Anthony, only your interpretation of the Quran (we all have an interpretation of it). Your only difference is that yours is somehow better or more authorized because you are a 'messenger'. How little you reflect, for you are different from most because Satan has caused you to slander God. You also use His words against people for whom they are clearly not speaking (such as verses for denying the messenger when in fact I accept his message). The messengers before 'you' brought a message - you did not.
Also, I did not respond to your above post because it was way too long and my time is extremely limited (I've only been home 1 day in the past 2 weeks and have to leave early again tomorrow).
In summation, you accuse the verse above of talking about me, when in fact it is not. Why, you ask? Because I ACCEPT the humans/messengers (and message) spoke of in the very verse you try to use against me. PROOF POSITIVE it is not talking about me. Proof positive that it is NOT talking about you!
Anyway, you have no basis and never had one for being a messenger in the first place, except for stealing another messenger's message and claiming it as your own. How very sad my friend, how very sad. Good luck with all of that, you may need it in the next life. handshake
I dont care what you think dude.
You will be defeated and gathered towards Hell. What a miserable destiny. You didnt respond cause you caint and you know what i said is the truth and you are a people who set up equals....
Anthony,
DO YOU THINK THAT YOUR "COMMANDMENTS" ARE AUTHORIZED BY GOD?
Besides, whatt is your message? Where is your proof?
If your message is "follow Quran alone" then this is not the place for proclaiming your message. You should be out there and preach "Quran alone" to the people. Look at what Rashad Khalifa did (note i dont care if you think he was a messenger or not) and look at what Prophet Muhammad did - they preached God's message to the people and took risks.@everyone
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9598266.15
Peace
Why do you keep twisting the truth and accusin me falsly?
I didnt say I give the "commandments." And I didnt say that " you all" should not tell me to do anything. I said that " you- the rejecter,hypocrite" do not tell me what to do.
God gives te "commandments. God and His messenger gives the orders. And also those in authority amonst you and the believers give the orders.
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My message
" Serve God and avoid evil."
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Peace
Do you really think that Mr. Anthony Wallace believes that he is a "messenger" ? Is that why he prefers to preach in the safety of the internet , out of harm's way ?
Peace
almarh0m
And what about you? You on the internet, too. And you dont know were I preach. Talk what you know. And im not stupid. And God is my protecter....
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I dont care what you think dude.
You will be defeated and gathered towards Hell. What a miserable destiny. You didnt respond cause you caint and you know what i said is the truth and you are a people who set up equals....
That's good Anthony, you honestly shouldn't care what I think. That said, see how you judge when such a right is reserved for God alone? Also, completely devoid of logic is your statement to tell someone who rejects man and accepts no one but God alone that they are setting up equals with Him. I'm not kidding here, zero logic in your judgment.
Maybe you should put the whole messenger thing on the back burner and sell Shamwows or something, it may prove more successful and useful.
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P.S. Who keeps voting for this guy? I'm guessing you must have 4 accounts here, right Anthony?
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First of all, you are NOT my messenger Anthony. I reject you and your idolatrous claims (idolatrous because I already accept God and His message and turn to him ALONE for guidance). You have brought NO NEW MESSAGE Anthony, only your interpretation of the Quran (we all have an interpretation of it). Your only difference is that yours is somehow better or more authorized because you are a 'messenger'. How little you reflect, for you are different from most because Satan has caused you to slander God. You also use His words against people for whom they are clearly not speaking (such as verses for denying the messenger when in fact I accept his message). The messengers before 'you' brought a message - you did not.
Also, I did not respond to your above post because it was way too long and my time is extremely limited (I've only been home 1 day in the past 2 weeks and have to leave early again tomorrow).
A messenger can "confirm a scripture" but I think messengership/prophethood can be accepted though clear signs (not sure if messengers have to have miracles but I'm 80% sure they do) though obstinance doesn't count as a sign (Wallace), other than that, you pretty much nailed it. I doubt anyone else is reading through all his crap either. After all we have very busy lives, but let me ask, how many here think Wallace is actually a messenger? rotfl
For the record, this thread is ******* hilarious. A messenger on free-minds.org...laugh
But hey you know, I guess there's a chance he could be. After all, he is advocating the Quran alone, right? That's one step forward to being one. bravo
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Why do you keep twisting the truth and accusin me falsly?
I didnt say I give the "commandments." And I didnt say that " you all" should not tell me to do anything. I said that " you- the rejecter,hypocrite" do not tell me what to do.
God gives te "commandments. God and His messenger gives the orders. And also those in authority amonst you and the believers give the orders.
ACCUSING YOU FALSELY?!!
This is what you said (from http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9598266.45)
As for those who only guess at what saqar means, and so on... I will not follow your desires. If you dont know then you should just shut up if you knew what was better for you.
Are you the messenger? Should we obey and follow you? Do you want to learn the Quran? Then why are you talking? Or is it the devil inspiring his supporters to argue with Gods messenger? Whoever challenges God and His messenegrs will lose. And whoever challenges God will be tortured severly. Why do you dispute about things you dont know? And reject Gods signs while you are bearing witness?
@ everyone
Also, please see my posts here
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=16162.30BTW this is something AW said in that thread
Shut up, im bout gettin tired of you and all your false accusationsI have not even falsely accused you of ONE thing, Anthony. In fact, I was the one who held back some comments that I wanted to make in the beginning, while others attacked you. But all you did was accusing me of lying, of accusing you of doing/saying certain things and many more things. You have made fun of people and told me to "shut up" and said that we have to obey you and that none of our opions are valid.
If you truly were a messenger then you would follow this commandment
16125 Invite to the path of your Lord with wisdom and good advice, and argue with them in the best possible manner. Your Lord is fully aware of who is misguided from His path, and He is fully aware of the guided ones.
You should repent and reform - it's not too late.
389 Except those who repent after this and reform, then God is Forgiver, Compassionate
16119 Yet, your Lord, to those who repent and reform after committing evil out of ignorance, your Lord after that is Forgiving, Compassionate.
Peace
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God is our protecter. And I do invite to the path with wisdom and good advice. But most of youll dont like my advice.............
The larger group will be defeated...
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144 And We have not sent any messenger except in the language of his people, so he may clarify to them. But God misguides whom He wills, and He guides whom He wills. And He is the Noble, the Wise.
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I thought you said one sentence isn't enough. Were you sent to us specifically? Because we are already serving God and avoiding evil.
Thats why I say one sentance isnt enuff. Is it not enuff for me to say " Serve God and avoid evil?" If you are serving God and avoiding evil then you are doing good. But that still dont turn the reminder from you. I dont know who recieve the inspiration or message. My only duty is to deliver it. And it it for God to guide or misguide.........................
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Thats why I say one sentance isnt enuff. Is it not enuff for me to say " Serve God and avoid evil?" If you are serving God and avoiding evil then you are doing good. But that still dont turn the reminder from you. I dont know who recieve the inspiration or message. My only duty is to deliver it. And it it for God to guide or misguide.........................
But of course all that is nothing if we don't accept Anthony Wallace as a messenger
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But of course all that is nothing if we don't accept Anthony Wallace as a messenger )
Look, rejecting Gods messengers is evil. Now the truth is from your Lord. So lets just let whoever desires belive and whoever desires reject. God knows who is best guided and who stray........
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Look, rejecting Gods messengers is evil. Now the truth is from your Lord. So lets just let whoever desires belive and whoever desires reject. God knows who is best guided and who stray........
No, you look. I am not going to accept every single person who claims to be a messenger. Especially with no 'clear signs'. Maybe it is because God is guiding me, thank God.
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Look, rejecting Gods messengers is evil. Now the truth is from your Lord. So lets just let whoever desires belive and whoever desires reject. God knows who is best guided and who stray........
Peace,
If you are really a messenger why don't you preach in public in your local area??
It is funny to note that God's messengers are going cyber!
May I introduce you to one of your collegues,
http//www.youtube.com/user/whereistruth
Check the occupation.
She is playing the Pan-Religious BS.
Peace,
Rami
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144 And We have not sent any messenger except in the language of his people, so he may clarify to them. But God misguides whom He wills, and He guides whom He wills. And He is the Noble, the Wise.
Dude...stfu. Anyone can quote this against anyone. Just stop. Even if you are a messenger, it would have no effect. Why? Because you would be just upholding the Quran which we uphold. A messenger's job isn't to disprove another messenger or slander him. Besides, as far as validity? RK is way ahead of you in that category. Brought numerous proofs and reminders. Only ones who grew bitter towards him were sunnis (they would be #1) and then those who want to talk about his past mistakes like what he did with a teenage girl, and then say that he was a liar. I've yet to see any show of this however. One "lie" I will mention is when someone said RK claimed a letter appeared in a verse 8 times when it appeared 7 times in order to get a 19 divisible, completely ignorant of the fact that it could easily have been a personal mistake and ignorant of the fact that the current Qurans today have slight edits in them, as they are not copies of the original scriptures. Even if 19 doesn't suit everything, the number of things that have to do with it (which would be somewhere between 20 to a 100) are all labeled "coincidences" by 19 rejectors, but do they also realize that the Quran doesn't just have to do with 19? There's a site talking about other mathematical miracles within the Quran, and the content is so much to read. It's amazing, but the 19 miracle is by far the greatest imo.
You will not gain anything if anyone believes you're a messenger. It's not like people are going to abide by your tafsir of the Quran, not that a messenger is allowed to do that anyway. It's obvious your main goal is to bash Khalifa, and the best you've managed to do was say because he threw out 128/129 he was a disbeliever, when there are not only numerous mathematical proofs showing it has no place in the Quran, but the fact Allah does not give any of his names (e.g., the merciful) to anyone, not even Muhammad, and there are historical evidence of tampering with the Quran, and it all has to do with the chapter 9. Coincidence? Think again. People who argue this will use the verse "we will perserve the book" but this has nothing to do with the printed books we have, because anyone can make any edits to them at any time or place. However, since we do have the system in which to decipher the Quran, it WILL be perserved. That is the meaning. If anyone can come up with a better meaning, then feel free to tell.