Has anyone ever accused you of "questioning the Qur'an"....
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2462 The believers are those who believe in God and His messenger,Peace,
I am frequently wrong and in this instance may very well be but it was my understanding that mumineen and muslimeen are two different things. Mumineen are held to a higher standard than Muslimeen. So in order to be a Muslim all that is required is to believe in God, the last day and do good works. The requirements for Mumin are more stringent. Anyone else?
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Verily those who believe, and those who are Judaised, and the Sabians and the Nazarenes - whosoever believeth in Allah and the Last Day and worketh righteously, no fear shall come on them, nor shall they grieve.
the above verse applies to those who believe in God and in all that has been revealed by Him to his messengers
Jews and Christians have to believe in quran and prophet Mohammad only then they can be considered on right path otherwise they are only in the opposition.
2135 And they say Be Jews or Christians, you will be on the right course. Say Nay! (we follow) the religion of Ibrahim, the Hanif, and he was not one of the polytheists
2136 Say We believe in Allah and (in) that which had been revealed to us, and (in) that which was revealed to Ibrahim and Ismail and Ishaq and Yaqoub and the tribes, and (in) that which was given to Musa and Isa, and (in) that which was given to the prophets from their Lord, we do not make any distinction between any of them, and to Him do we submit.
2137 If then they believe as you believe in Him, they are indeed on the right course, and if they turn back, then they are only in great opposition, so Allah will suffice you against them, and He is the Hearing, the Knowing.
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I am frequently wrong and in this instance may very well be but it was my understanding that mumineen and muslimeen are two different things.
Yes one could apparently be a muslim since it is physical/apparent aspect, way and code of life. The proper way is to first become a believer and then put that belief into physical action. Believers are asked not to die untill and unless they were in the state of being muslim. Believing is ideology, Deen is action. An action has weight and meaning only if it is done under the attraction of an idea, otherwise it is just that thing which is done by any animal. Weight is the unit of attraction the earth has for that thing, therefore, all those acts would go waste and fruitless and will be of no weight and value if not done in the love and under the influence/attraction of belief. Belief and Deen are complimentary, one without the other is meaningless proposition. The belief will be of no avail without acts and acts will be of no avail without belief.
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Verily those who believe, and those who are Judaised, and the Sabians and the Nazarenes - whosoever believeth in Allah and the Last Day and worketh righteously, no fear shall come on them, nor shall they grieve.
the above verse applies to those who believe in God and in all that has been revealed by Him to his messengers
Jews and Christians have to believe in quran and prophet Mohammad only then they can be considered on right path otherwise they are only in the opposition.
2135 And they say Be Jews or Christians, you will be on the right course. Say Nay! (we follow) the religion of Ibrahim, the Hanif, and he was not one of the polytheists
2136 Say We believe in Allah and (in) that which had been revealed to us, and (in) that which was revealed to Ibrahim and Ismail and Ishaq and Yaqoub and the tribes, and (in) that which was given to Musa and Isa, and (in) that which was given to the prophets from their Lord, we do not make any distinction between any of them, and to Him do we submit.
2137 If then they believe as you believe in Him, they are indeed on the right course, and if they turn back, then they are only in great opposition, so Allah will suffice you against them, and He is the Hearing, the Knowing.
I'm confused. If Jews & Christians believe in Prophet Muhammad (saw) and the Qur'an, then they'd no longer be Jews & Christians, right??!!
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I'm confused. If Jews & Christians believe in Prophet Muhammad (saw) and the Qur'an, then they'd no longer be Jews & Christians, right??!!
???thats why is also included in the verse. God did not give them these names, God said 2135 Say Nay! (we follow) the religion of Ibrahim, the Hanif, and he was not one of the polytheists.
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God has given Jews identity of Bani Israel. As for Christians are concerned, it is they who identify themselves as Nisaara. There are believers/Momin amongst Bani Israel/Jews but for identification they retain as being of Bani Israel. Quran has divided humanity into six identified groups in 2217. Hell is however divided into seven parts, each part for one group. One part, the worst one is for the seventh group who have no identity in the world neither here nor there, they are Munafiqeen, RK was one of them.
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God has given Jews identity of Bani Israel. As for Christians are concerned, it is they who identify themselves as Nisaara. There are believers/Momin amongst Bani Israel/Jews but for identification they retain as being of Bani Israel. Quran has divided humanity into six identified groups in 2217. Hell is however divided into seven parts, each part for one group. One part, the worst one is for the seventh group who have no identity in the world neither here nor there, they are Munafiqeen, RK was one of them.
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thanks for the info but who is talking about RK here?
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Attending to two sections made this mention inadvertantly.
rotfl rotfl rotfl I am sorry but that was too funny!
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RasulHamsa and Mazhar
You two bring verses that do not contain the name Muhammad. You two believe that Muhammad came with a different message, inspite of this verse quoted in RasulHamsa's post
2135 And they say Be Jews or Christians, you will be on the right course. Say Nay! (we follow) the religion of Ibrahim, the Hanif, and he was not one of the polytheists
Your confusion is that you seem to not know what the message is. If you do, it's the same since Abraham, and whoever follows it and lives by it shall have no fear come near them nor will they grieve, no matter who brought it to them -
RasulHamsa and Mazhar
You two bring verses that do not contain the name Muhammad. You two believe that Muhammad came with a different message, inspite of this verse quoted in RasulHamsa's post
2135 And they say Be Jews or Christians, you will be on the right course. Say Nay! (we follow) the religion of Ibrahim, the Hanif, and he was not one of the polytheists
Your confusion is that you seem to not know what the message is. If you do, it's the same since Abraham, and whoever follows it and lives by it shall have no fear come near them nor will they grieve, no matter who brought it to themNo, I do not believe he brought any different message. The original message remains the same. In time and space what happened was that conjecture fabricators polluted the message and deshaped and invented over a period of time a self made Deen but propagating it to be from Allah. A new Messenger came with the Book, he affirmed and confirmed that which was sent before him and thus segregated the truth from the falsehood and in this way again firmly established the message/Aa'ya'at of Allah. This system kept on and on before Muhammad s.a.s. with Grand Qur'aan was sent. They are current in time and space being the last message, since no one has yet introduced a new Book to public claiming it to be Message/Book of Allah.
The current demand and verdict applicable to people present in this time and space is given
This covers the whole time period of men. Only those who believe this are eligible to join the race for paradise.
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Peace,
My family (especially dad) thinks that I am being 'misled' by Satan the rebel. I have tried to explain my position by using the Quran many times but he fails to understand brickwall. He keeps telling me that the Mullahs on TV know much more than me and that we should follow them blindly. The Saudi petro funded Wahabism is reaching new heights since now they are using the media quite effectively to brainwash the masses to their view of 'Islam'. He has also warned me about not 'misleading' my two sisters. I have not given up though! God Willing we will increase in numbers and in influence and God's promise shall come to pass!
God Bless!
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RasulHamsa and Mazhar
You two bring verses that do not contain the name Muhammad. You two believe that Muhammad came with a different message, inspite of this verse quoted in RasulHamsa's post
2135 And they say Be Jews or Christians, you will be on the right course. Say Nay! (we follow) the religion of Ibrahim, the Hanif, and he was not one of the polytheists
Your confusion is that you seem to not know what the message is. If you do, it's the same since Abraham, and whoever follows it and lives by it shall have no fear come near them nor will they grieve, no matter who brought it to themSalaam
how do you understand the following verse
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2947 And thus have We revealed the Book to you. So those whom We have given the Book believe in it, and of these there are those who believe in it, and none deny Our sings except the unbelievers.
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Peace,
My family (especially dad) thinks that I am being 'misled' by Satan the rebel. I have tried to explain my position by using the Quran many times but he fails to understand brickwall. He keeps telling me that the Mullahs on TV know much more than me and that we should follow them blindly. The Saudi petro funded Wahabism is reaching new heights since now they are using the media quite effectively to brainwash the masses to their view of 'Islam'. He has also warned me about not 'misleading' my two sisters. I have not given up though! God Willing we will increase in numbers and in influence and God's promise shall come to pass!
God Bless!
SaidThe mullahs pretend to know everything...They might even say that hitting two sticks is haraam! rotfl
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I'm confused. If Jews & Christians believe in Prophet Muhammad (saw) and the Qur'an, then they'd no longer be Jews & Christians, right??!!
???Even if they believe in Allah as the ONLY ONE Whom allegiance is due, things will change. By printing on currency notes does not mean that they truly believe in Allah.
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Peace,
My family (especially dad) thinks that I am being 'misled' by Satan the rebel. I have tried to explain my position by using the Quran many times but he fails to understand brickwall. He keeps telling me that the Mullahs on TV know much more than me and that we should follow them blindly. The Saudi petro funded Wahabism is reaching new heights since now they are using the media quite effectively to brainwash the masses to their view of 'Islam'. He has also warned me about not 'misleading' my two sisters. I have not given up though! God Willing we will increase in numbers and in influence and God's promise shall come to pass!
God Bless!
SaidI've heard that before, that I'm being "misled", or going "down the wrong path". You can only explain to him if he's open to understanding ... my MIL is the same way, think the mullahs/scholars are so wise and we should be following them. She thinks that Bukhari was a great, religious man.