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Sex is not permitted during fasting, is masturbation as well?

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    Meteora
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    Masturbation perse is haram.

    There's not even a single "sahih" hadith that states this. Some sunnis conclude that because Muhammad advised adolescents to fast when they're horny, masturbation falls in the category of forbidden things. This is not true, and I can mention a lot of instances where they don't use this kind of logic. For example Allah telling us to pay alms on the day of harvest/day you get your paycheck but the sunnis have made it once a year. Had they utilized the same logic then giving alms on any day other than when you get your wealth falls in the category of forbidden things, and it's also forbidden not to give alms on the day of harvest anyway.

    Others hold the opinion that it is not haram as long as you are doing it to avoid what's definitely haram and that's sex with someone other than your wife.

    Ok...isn't this why muslim men masturbate? Why else would you masturbate if you didn't have a hot woman living in your house? Duh. nope

    Most also, not surprisingly misuse the verse telling you who you can have sex with. They think "masturbation" falls in the category of "wara-a zalika" (more than this). What they fail to comprehend is that the verse before it is talking about "gaurding your private parts" and how can you "ungaurd" it by touching or stroking it? You can't gaurd your genitals from yourself. You have to rub it clean in the shower and so on. By gaurding your private part from yourself you'd have one dirty penis.

    -M

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      procrastinator
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      There's not even a single "sahih" hadith that states this. Some sunnis conclude that because Muhammad advised adolescents to fast when they're horny,

      lol laugh

      By gaurding your private part from yourself you'd have one dirty penis.

      LOOOOOOL rotfl

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        By gaurding your private part from yourself you'd have one dirty penis.

        & & rotfl

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          Meteora
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          Actually, I cracked myself up as well when I was writing those 2 parts. I'm awesome...;D

          -M

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            liquiddharma
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            TheNabi's post scares the hell out of me - I'm going to me purpetually in fear of sitting next to someone on a train who's reading a sports magazine, lest they agree with his theory about "indulgence in the feeling"!

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              TheNabi's post scares the hell out of me - I'm going to me purpetually in fear of sitting next to someone on a train who's reading a sports magazine, lest they agree with his theory about "indulgence in the feeling"!

              Maybe they will ban magazines as well as everything else.

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                WOW!! As a former Catholic, I am astounded at the openness to masturbation here. The pope and his minions consider masturbation as bad as murder...it is what they call a 'mortal sin.' Mortal sins are worshipping other gods beside God (that is ironic), trashing sacred relics and statues, murder, fornication, adultery, masturbation, stealing, telling lies about a neighbor, etc...etc...There is no distinction between these sins, and the sinner is doomed to hell if he is not absolved by the priest in what is called a 'confessional.' If a person eats and drinks the eucharist without confessing such serious sins to a priest before the distribution, then that is a mortal sin too. The rituals of the Catholic church are set up to beat you down at every turn.

                Happy masturbating!! O0 yay rotfl

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                  Dariush
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                  TheNabi's post scares the hell out of me - I'm going to me purpetually in fear of sitting next to someone on a train who's reading a sports magazine, lest they agree with his theory about "indulgence in the feeling"!

                  Hahaha! This is coming from a guy named liquid dharma!!! rotfl laugh hmm hypno

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                    A person I know thinks that it is alright to use mouth spray while fasting...I tried telling them that the liquid mixes into your saliva and when you swallow your saliva mixed with the liquid from the mouth spray your fast will be invalidated. but the person keeps asking for proof and does not believe me...can u guys help me to convince the person that mouth spray invalidates your fast

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                      A person I know thinks that it is alright to use mouth spray while fasting...I tried telling them that the liquid mixes into your saliva and when you swallow your saliva mixed with the liquid from the mouth spray your fast will be invalidated. but the person keeps asking for proof and does not believe me...can u guys help me to convince the person that mouth spray invalidates your fast

                      But the real question is there fast valid since they are fasting in wrong months and dates. \sorry no evidence you can find that in fatwas '(

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                        liquiddharma
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                        Hahaha! This is coming from a guy named liquid dharma!!!

                        You have a dirty mind confused peace

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                          Rev_John
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                          You have a dirty mind confused peace

                          Don't we all at times?

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                            liquiddharma
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                            Some more than others!

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                              Rev_John
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                              Some more than others!

                              True, a lot depends on the type of sense of humour you have

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                                Dariush
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                                True, a lot depends on the type of sense of humour you have

                                rotfl rotfl rotfl bravo hypno laugh

                                Liquid dharma.....

                                rotfl rotfl bravo rotfl bravo yay laugh

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                                  rotfl rotfl rotfl bravo hypno laugh

                                  Liquid dharma.....

                                  rotfl rotfl bravo rotfl bravo yay laugh

                                  That is cruel. rotfl rotfl

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                                    No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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                                    Peace the word is not secretly it is ikhtaana which means to betray oneself, as it concerns the fast. It could be talking about whether they felt as if they were betraying themselves knowning that they had been fasting or it could be referring to the fast that they were allowed to have sex but would have prohibited themselves, there by also betraying themselves(what they really wanted to do). The word doesn't mean secret anything.

                                    Godbless,
                                    Anwar

                                    Before the revelation of the Quran, fasting was ordained by God and practiced, however, sex, during all of the fasting month, was prohibited. The people, however, although there was a prohibition, had sex. The Quranic verse is allowing sex during the nights of Ramadan.

                                    Peace

                                    I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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                                      But the real question is there fast valid since they are fasting in wrong months and dates. \sorry no evidence you can find that in fatwas '(

                                      Yes according to quran we have to make up the missed fasts so even if someone fasts in the wrong period its still rewarded (God willing)

                                      "...Those who are ill or traveling may substitute the same number of other days. GOD wishes for you convenience, not hardship, that you may fulfill your obligations, and to glorify GOD for guiding you, and to express your appreciation." 2185

                                      PEACE

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                                        liquiddharma
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                                        Before the revelation of the Quran, fasting was ordained by God and practiced, however, sex, during all of the fasting month, was prohibited. The people, however, although there was a prohibition, had sex. The Quranic verse is allowing sex during the nights of Ramadan.

                                        Peace

                                        It doesn't make much sense to me. If that logic was followed, we would get rid of all rules that people don't bother to follow. For a logically coherent moral system, we have to presume that rules are there for a logical purpose, and so there needs to be a darn good reason for something to change. It cannot be because God decides to be more forgiving, as that would imply he made a wrong decision previously, which is inconsistent with monotheism.

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                                          Yes according to quran we have to make up the missed fasts so even if someone fasts in the wrong period its still rewarded (God willing)

                                          "...Those who are ill or traveling may substitute the same number of other days. GOD wishes for you convenience, not hardship, that you may fulfill your obligations, and to glorify GOD for guiding you, and to express your appreciation." 2185

                                          PEACE

                                          o The whole month laugh

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