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Did Jesus Christ have a father?

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    nerspi
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    check out the link posted by belH in a post before mine )

    besides, must it be mentioned he had a father? not every messenger's father is mentioned in it... nor should it be.
    a lot of things are not mentioned in the quran

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      Freemind0
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      of course he had a father, this world is not a playground for God, it's a serious place where there are rules, laws and there will always be a father and mother to every child.

      and what is this

      Mary says "O my Lord! How shall I have a son when no man hath touched me?" verse 47.

      Why did she say no man has touched her. If she already had a husband as you said, of course he had touched her.

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        nerspi
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        i say it's either a mistranslation or misinterpretation or both.
        because it goes against other parts of the quran, one for example being that jesus was created like adam (mankind), that verse is not there to uphold a false belief that christians distorted, but to correct his image, jesus was created just like all other humans (adam)...

        and i can't go throwing that away just because this one verse says somethign that might seem to contradict it atfirst glance, especially when you look at the quran from a certain point of view and see what it actually says about miracles and such things, and nature and a system that God created in which are set laws and nothing changes, so it can't be billions of people born one way and just this one human born another way...

        so then you'd have to rethink that particular verse, because it's the one that falls out of place.

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          Freemind0
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          i say it's either a mistranslation or misinterpretation or both.
          because it goes against other parts of the quran, one for example being that jesus was created like adam (mankind), that verse is not there to uphold a false belief that christians distorted, but to correct his image, jesus was created just like all other humans (adam)...

          and i can't go throwing that away just because this one verse says somethign that might seem to contradict it atfirst glance, especially when you look at the quran from a certain point of view and see what it actually says about miracles and such things, and nature and a system that God created in which are set laws and nothing changes, so it can't be billions of people born one way and just this one human born another way...

          so then you'd have to rethink that particular verse, because it's the one that falls out of place.

          so what is the correct translation for that verse. I do not know arabic. please provide a correct translation. I wonder why God would send us verses as difficult as this which 10000 persons would interpret it as Jesus had no father while among them one person will be found who says this is a wrong translation. jedi and he had a father.

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            Jafar
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            In traditional Christianity his father was God. In non-traditional Christianity his father was Joseph

            I vote for Joseph..
            Jesus needs a Y chromosom from somewhere..
            He was Joseph's sperm, how does his sperm (or at least his Y chromosom) get into Mary's ovary or egg without any sexual interaction, that's the miracle..

            Salam / Peace

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              Jafar
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              Peace,
              Respectfully.

              I don't think he had a father - God knows best but The Quran doesn't mention him, does it?
              We must always provide Quranic evidence, right?
              Glory be to The MOST Merciful.

              Peace.

              Not necessarily, a scientific evidence from natural observation could be better..
              As said in the Quran God's verses / symbols / ayat is written everywhere, in the heaven and the earth..
              I don't see there are any differences between Law Of Nature and Law Of God.

              Salam / Peace

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                Q_student
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                Peace
                Male and female mating is not essential for procreation.
                Parthenogenesis in plants
                Cloning in animals is a well recognised phenomenon.

                Some are saying "from where did Jesus AH get Y -chromosome ? if he had no father.For their information no doubt normally you always need genotype
                XY = male
                XX = Female

                But there is a condition called as Sex Reversal .In this condition there are
                XY = females
                XX = Males
                http//www.lds-mormon.com/gender1.shtml

                Secondly
                Adam is Adam not Banu Adam
                Banu Adam is Banu Adam (man kind).
                Allah know language much better than you and me.He knows the difference and usage of these two words.

                Regards

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                  TheJoker
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                  mention the verse which indicates he had a father!

                  mention the verse which indicates Moses had a father

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                    Jafar
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                    mention the verse which indicates Moses had a father

                    mention the verse which says Salih had a father and mother..
                    laugh

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                      Jafar
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                      Peace

                      But there is a condition called as Sex Reversal .In this condition there are
                      XY = females
                      XX = Males
                      http//www.lds-mormon.com/gender1.shtml

                      From the same mormon's article it is also said

                      "There are also individuals who are chromosomal females with XX chromosomes but who develop as males. Again, the condition may not be evident until puberty."

                      Thus Jesus was borned female? and became male after puberty?
                      Or perhaps Jesus was actually female after all! <-- there are people who also believe as such.

                      http//gallery.photo.net/photo/6743113-md.jpg

                      To me the proposed scenario above was.... less likely..

                      In a Quran it is clearly stated that Mary had a baby boy..

                      Salam / Peace

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                        unknownuser
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                        We have enjoined on man kindness to his parents

                        Jesus had no father, he was not a human.

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                          Q_student
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                          We have enjoined on man kindness to his parents

                          Jesus had no father, he was not a human.

                          Peace
                          The same Question applies to Adam. Was he having father and mother ? or He was not a human being ?
                          regards

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                            unknownuser
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                            Peace
                            The same Question applies to Adam. Was he having father and mother ? or He was not a human being ?
                            regards

                            salaam brother

                            if he too had no parent he too was not a human.

                            would you please translate the following for me

                            http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9598981.msg219956#msg219956

                            peace

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                              Meteora
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                              Belief in the Quran means belief Jesus hadn't a father. Factaymo.

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                                Q_student
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                                salaam brother

                                if he too had no parent he too was not a human.

                                would you please translate the following for me

                                http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9598981.msg219956#msg219956

                                peace

                                What it has to do with birth of Jesus AH ?
                                Secondly I am not Arabic or Quran expert just a "student".
                                BTW Tomorrow when some Cloned babies are born ,from where you will bring "waalidan" for them ?
                                Regards

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                                  TheJoker
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                                  What it has to do with birth of Jesus AH ?
                                  Secondly I am not Arabic or Quran expert just a "student".
                                  BTW Tomorrow when some Cloned babies are born ,from where you will bring "waalidan" for them ?
                                  Regards

                                  Wrong thread

                                  http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9598981.msg219956#msg219956

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                                    Freemind0
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                                    mention the verse which indicates Moses had a father

                                    what is the real meaning of this verse Mary says "O my Lord! How shall I have a son when no man hath touched me?" verse 47. What does it really mean? why did she say no man has ever touched me. just stick to this verse.

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                                      TheJoker
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                                      At that point no 'bashar' had touched her...

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                                        Freemind0
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                                        At that point no 'bashar' had touched her...

                                        can you be clear. you mean she said this to her Lord before she had married?

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                                          unknownuser
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                                          What it has to do with birth of Jesus AH ?
                                          Secondly I am not Arabic or Quran expert just a "student".
                                          BTW Tomorrow when some Cloned babies are born ,from where you will bring "waalidan" for them ?
                                          Regards

                                          salaam brother

                                          I've checked all the newspapers of today and none has mentioned that tomorrow any cloned baby is gonna born, so your information is not correct. secondly I asked you to translate not to tease you but I admire your knowledge of arabic language elhamdulillah.

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