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    belH
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    do you mean this month ?

    http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Month

    As you can see, the english word "month" is a human arbitrary subdivision of the year. it has never been the same 29-30 days in all ancient cultures. There are many types of months, not all of them have the same meaning.

    So if you posted this question in BOLD just because you are convinced that month depends EXCLUSIVELEY on the moon, so tell me what do you think about the ? month ? February ?
    Is it depending on the moon ?
    The Quranic teaching for this , is that we should START counting from obvious markers/events (shahr = full moon = front doors) and stop the count @ 12, within a solar year (don?t you really see that the year is solar ??)
    After that, it?s up to you to find a word for the ? time frame ? between two obvious moon markers ??shahar?? .. some call it month , why don?t you ?

    Peace duck,

    Let me make simple for you as I did with Samia

    Translate the following ENGLISH WORD TO ARABIC

    MONTH

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      ayman
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      Peace Belal,

      If Ayman and his followers have some creditability left, please answer this question
      What is the QURANIC ARABIC WORD that is equal to the ENGLISH WORD MONTH?
      Sorry for the big letters, but I want everyone to understand why we are disputing with Ayman and his followers.

      What is the QURANIC ARABIC WORD that is equal to the ENGLISH WORD WEEK?

      Peace,

      Ayman

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        belH
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        Peace Belal,

        There are several problems in your logic (or more appropriately, lack thereof).

        1. The first problem is that you ignore the meaning of the Arabic word "kaaba" and are thus unable to translate it.

        That is the meaning of KABBA

        God has made the KABBA to be the Restricted House; to enforce for the people, and for the restricted month, and for the donations, and for regulation; that is so you may know that God knows what is in the heavens and what is in earth, and that God is aware of all things.
        597

        The Kabba is the Restricted HOUSE...Which I believe is in Jerusalem, where Makam (Tomb) Abraham Stands.

        Thus
        O you who believe, do not kill any game while you are restricted; and whoever of you kills it deliberately, then the recompense is to value what was killed against the livestock, which shall be judged by two equitable persons from you, and to make it as a donation to reach the Kabba. Or, its expiation shall be in using it to feed the needy ones, while he abstains from it; that is to suffer the results of his deed; God forgives what has past. And whoever returns, then God will seek vengeance on him. God is Noble, capable of vengeance.
        595

        The Sacrifice shall be in the Restricted House..Therefore, the Hunting Restriction is During our Hajj to the Restricted House. !

        Now

        WHAT IS THE ARABIC WORD THAT EQUAL THE ENGLISH WORD "MONTH"?

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          quickduck
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          Peace Belal,

          What is the QURANIC ARABIC WORD that is equal to the ENGLISH WORD WEEK?

          Peace,

          Ayman

          Please Ayman, make it simple for him

          @ BelH

          Translate the following ENGLISH WORD TO ARABIC

          WEEK

          I mean , this WEEK

          http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Week

          salam,

          P.S rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl

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            belH
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            Please Ayman, make it simple for him

            @ BelH

            Translate the following ENGLISH WORD TO ARABIC

            WEEK

            I mean , this WEEK

            http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Week

            salam,

            P.S rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl

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              ayman
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              Peace Belal,

              That is the meaning of KABBA
              God has made the KABBA to be the Restricted House; to enforce for the people, and for the restricted month, and for the donations, and for regulation; that is so you may know that God knows what is in the heavens and what is in earth, and that God is aware of all things.
              597
              The Kabba is the Restricted HOUSE...Which I believe is in Jerusalem, where Makam (Tomb) Abraham Stands.
              Thus
              O you who believe, do not kill any game while you are restricted; and whoever of you kills it deliberately, then the recompense is to value what was killed against the livestock, which shall be judged by two equitable persons from you, and to make it as a donation to reach the Kabba. Or, its expiation shall be in using it to feed the needy ones, while he abstains from it; that is to suffer the results of his deed; God forgives what has past. And whoever returns, then God will seek vengeance on him. God is Noble, capable of vengeance.
              595
              The Sacrifice shall be in the Restricted House..Therefore, the Hunting Restriction is During our Hajj to the Restricted House. !

              Are you saying that the sectarians' Kaaba is not the real "kaaba" but they just built a stone cube and hijacked the word "kaaba" from the great reading and named their pagan shrine accordingly? This is very interesting. How do we know that you are also not hijacking the word "kaaba" and slapping it on some rock in Jerusalem? Please tell us what "kaaba" means so that we can see if you are truthful.

              If you don't trust the sectarians on "kaaba" then why trust them on "ramadhan". It is much easier to name an arbitrary abstract month than to make people go on a pilgrimage to a different physical location hundreds of kilometers away in the middle of the desert.

              Now
              WHAT IS THE ARABIC WORD THAT EQUAL THE ENGLISH WORD "MONTH"?

              I see that you took out the word QURANIC. If you did it on purpose then thank you for your honesty and correction. So do you now acknoweldge that the great reading doesn't mention arbitrary manmade calendars and their arbitrary months and weeks?

              Peace,

              Ayman

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                quickduck
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                Correct !

                but can you please quote a verse with ?
                If you don't find, what can we deduce ?
                that it is unquranic ? that it doesn't exist ? or that it is not important as long as we Count 12 full-moons "shahars" in solar year ?

                Good luck !

                P.S please post in bold so everyone could read your answer !

                Salam

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                  belH
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                  Peace Belal,

                  What is the QURANIC ARABIC WORD that is equal to the ENGLISH WORD WEEK?

                  Peace,

                  Ayman

                  God Has mentioned Friday and Saturday in Quran...Now, What is the period between TWO Fridays or Two Saturdays?
                  The arabic Word for this period is

                  Now

                  WHAT IS THE ARABIC WORD THAT EQUAL THE ENGLISH WORD "MONTH"?

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                    belH
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                    Correct !

                    but can you please quote a verse with ?
                    If you don't find, what can we deduce ?
                    that it is unquranic ? that it doesn't exist ? or that it is not important as long as we Count 12 full-moons "shahars" in solar year ?

                    Good luck !

                    P.S please post in bold so everyone could read your answer !

                    Salam

                    I have told you the arabic word that is equal to WEEK, Now

                    WHAT IS THE ARABIC WORD THAT EQUAL THE ENGLISH WORD "MONTH"?

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                      ayman
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                      Peace Belal,

                      God Has mentioned Friday and Saturday in Quran...Now, What is the period between TWO Fridays or Two Saturdays?

                      The name Friday comes from the Old English friged?g, meaning the day of Frige the Anglo-Saxon form of Frigg, a West Germanic translation of Latin dies Veneris, "day (of the planet) Venus."

                      Saturday was named no later than the second century for the planet (Saturn), which controlled the first hour of that day according to Vettius Valens. The planet was named for the Roman god of agriculture Saturn. It has been called dies Saturni ("Saturn's Day&quot, through which form it entered into Old English as S?ternesd?g and gradually evolved into the word "Saturday". Saturday is the only day of the week in which the English name comes from Roman mythology. The English names of all of the other days of the week come from Germanic polytheism.

                      Can you please provide the passages of the great reading where the god mentions the day of the pagan goddess of fertility Frigga (the equivalent of the Roman Venus and the Greek Aphrodite) and the day of Saturn, the Roman pagan god of agriculture?

                      Peace,

                      Ayman

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                        quickduck
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                        WHAT IS THE ARABIC WORD THAT EQUAL THE ENGLISH WORD "MONTH"?

                        i did'nt notice that you changed you initial question (quranic word to arabic word) ?

                        God Has mentioned Friday and Saturday in Quran...Now, What is the period between TWO Fridays or Two Saturdays?

                        the Answer should freak you
                        The time periode between two fridays is also called " 1 friday "
                        eg Belal was traveling for 1 friday . (= for a week)

                        Now i'll answer your big-bold-moving question
                        the time frame between 2 shahrs can also be called "1 shahr".

                        But this is arbitrary, can you understand ?

                        Salam

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                          belH
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                          I see that you took out the word QURANIC. If you did it on purpose then thank you for your honesty and correction. So do you now acknoweldge that the great reading doesn't mention arbitrary manmade calendars and their arbitrary months and weeks?

                          Peace,

                          Ayman

                          Ayman, let us Cut the chase...If you answer the following, I will give you some creditability

                          WHAT IS THE QURAINIC ARABIC WORD THAT EQUAL THE ENGLISH WORD "MONTH"?

                          Peace Belal,

                          The name Friday comes from the Old English friged?g, meaning the day of Frige the Anglo-Saxon form of Frigg, a West Germanic translation of Latin dies Veneris, "day (of the planet) Venus."

                          Saturday was named no later than the second century for the planet (Saturn), which controlled the first hour of that day according to Vettius Valens. The planet was named for the Roman god of agriculture Saturn. It has been called dies Saturni ("Saturn's Day&quot, through which form it entered into Old English as S?ternesd?g and gradually evolved into the word "Saturday". Saturday is the only day of the week in which the English name comes from Roman mythology. The English names of all of the other days of the week come from Germanic polytheism.

                          Do you mean that there is no Saturday nor Friday in Quran?

                          Can you please provide the passages of the great reading where the god mentions the day of the pagan goddess of fertility Frigga (the equivalent of the Roman Venus and the Greek Aphrodite) and the day of Saturn, the Roman pagan god of agriculture?

                          Peace,

                          Ayman

                          2-65, 4-47, 4-154, 7-163, 16-124, 7-163, 62-9

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                            ayman
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                            Peace Quickduck,

                            i did'nt notice that you changed you initial question (quranic word to arabic word) ?

                            He did it after I asked him about the QURANIC ARABIC word for WEEK. )

                            The time periode between two fridays is also called " 1 friday "
                            eg Belal was traveling for 1 friday . (= for a week)

                            Belal's question about Friday and Saturday is as irrelevant as asking about January and February.

                            Peace,

                            Ayman

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                              belH
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                              Now i'll answer your big-bold-moving question
                              the time frame between 2 shahrs can also be called "1 shahr".

                              But this is arbitrary, can you understand ?

                              Thank you for concurring to this valuable meaning

                              SHAHER is the ARABIC WORD FOR the ENGLISH WORD MONTH

                              Now, SHAHAR RAMADAN equal the ENGLISH WORDS MONTH of RAMADAN

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                                ayman
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                                Peace Belal,

                                Ayman, let us Cut the chase...If you answer the following, I will give you some creditability
                                WHAT IS THE QURAINIC ARABIC WORD THAT EQUAL THE ENGLISH WORD "MONTH"?

                                This is an easy question. The god doesn't mention the word "month" in the great reading in the same way that he doesn't mention the word "week" (as you realize by now) and many other things.

                                Do you mean that there is no Saturday nor Friday in Quran?
                                2-65, 4-47, 4-154, 7-163, 16-124, 7-163, 62-9

                                Those passages don't mention anything about Frigga day or Saturn day. If you knew what the Arabic words "juma'a" and "sabt" mean then you wouldn't be asking this question.

                                Peace,

                                Ayman

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                                  belH
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                                  Peace Belal,

                                  This is an easy question. The god doesn't mention the word "month" in the great reading in the same way that he doesn't mention the word "week" (as you realize by now) and many other things.

                                  WHAT IS THE ARABIC WORD THAT IS EQUAL TO THE ENGLISH WORD MONTH

                                  Those passages don't mention anything about Frigga day or Saturn day. If you knew what the Arabic words "juma'a" and "sabt" mean then you wouldn't be asking this question.

                                  wow Can you teach us the correct meaning PLEASE, but after answering the above question as duck did.

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                                    belH
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                                    Ayman, after answering my BIG Question, can you also teach us the true meaning of 5-95, specially these ARABIC WORDS

                                    Thank you for your effort in educating us ;D

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                                      belH
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                                      the time frame between 2 shahrs can also be called "1 shahr".

                                      Peace,
                                      I know your time is valuable, but can you tell us HOW MANY DAYS ARE IN 1 SHAHR?

                                      Duck, I know you will not let us down by not answering in a straight forward way.

                                      handshake

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                                        quickduck
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                                        Peace,
                                        I know your time is valuable, but can you tell us HOW MANY DAYS ARE IN 1 SHAHR?

                                        Duck, I know you will not let us down by not answering in a straight forward way.

                                        handshake

                                        All actual arabic "months" are 29-30 days .
                                        All gregorian "months" all 30-31 days except fberuary 28-29.

                                        Time frame between 2 "shahrs" events ( full moons ) can be called as 1 shahr period (month).
                                        The same way as the time frame between 2 women menstruating "events" can be called as 1 menstruation "period" .

                                        I hope i was as clear as you could understand .

                                        Salam

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                                          belH
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                                          All actual arabic "months" are 29-30 days .
                                          All gregorian "months" all 30-31 days except fberuary 28-29.

                                          Time frame between 2 "shahrs" events ( full moons ) can be called as 1 shahr period (month).
                                          The same way as the time frame between 2 women menstruating "events" can be called as 1 menstruation "period" .

                                          I hope i was as clear as you could understand .

                                          Salam

                                          Thank you duck for your post.
                                          By the way I will correct the above red words to the following red words ;D

                                          All actual Lunar "months" are 29-30 days .

                                          Thank you...I'm done with you for now

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