Hot/"ramadan" Answer
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Peace Belal,
It depends on which Arabic you are talking about. Are you talking about Pre-Islamic Arabic or Modern Arabic? I hope that you know that there is a difference.
In the case of the great reading, we are only concerned with Pre-Islamic Arabic. In Pre-Islamic Arabic, the Arabic word for month was ?yarkh? in Northern Arabian dialects and ?warkh? in Southern and Central Arabian dialects. On the other hand, ?shahr? was never used to mean ?month?. This is confirmed by the physical evidence of Pre-Islamic inscriptions
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Southern/Central Arabian dialect (see ?warkh? used to mean month)
http//www.mnh.si.edu/epigraphy/e_pre-islamic/fig04_sabaean.htm -
Northern Arabian dialect (see ?yarkh? used to mean month)
http//www.islamic-awareness.org/History/Islam/Inscriptions/raqush.html
Also, please note that none of the Pre-Islamic inscriptions mention any of the sectarian months? names.
I could not find any reference to WARKH nor YARK in the links you provided.
Moreover, can you find if the word Shahar means Full Moon, and the Word Ramadan Means Scorching Moon in the Pre-Islamic Arabic. And once done, please share the results with us.Quickduck already provided you with the meaning and their meaning has nothing to do with the week. Now your turn please provide evidence from the great reading that the week is 7 days.
Duck still stumbling with the rest of my question--How many days are between two Sabet (Saturday)? A
First, do you agree that ?kaaba? doesn?t mean a stone cube?
I believe brother Layth has provided a clear defination to the word Kabba, which I believe is the most accurate, in his article.
Now, answer the question.
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Peace Ayman,
The day and night are determined by the sun and they have nothing to do with the moon.
The sun does not determine day or night. Its job is to generate and emit light, period. The earth makes day by presenting parts of itself to the sun. The part that is hidden from the sun in night. Likewise the part that moon exposes to the sun becomes day there. The moon reflect this sunlight towards us and lights part of the earth. So even at night we get sunlight, though not as strong as direct sunlight. How does sun determine the day and night? Is the sun flip-flopping its position back and forth between two sides of earth to give us night and day?
Please show us the word SUN in 1712.
Tell this to yourself. Do you even understand what a count is? In order to count, you have to know the population that you are counting out of. Just recycling the names of the months every 12 months is not counting 12, especially since those names are meaningless anyway and so you could call those months anything.
Don't tell me how to do counting using population. You have already demonstrated your ignorance by quoting the use of bathtub curve. I would have used the weibull distribution. Do you know why I would have chosen weibull instead of bathtub curve? I will save more discussion for latter.
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Peace Ayman,
The sun does not determine day or night. Its job is to generate and emit light, period. The earth makes day by presenting parts of itself to the sun. The part that is hidden from the sun in night. Likewise the part that moon exposes to the sun becomes day there. The moon reflect this sunlight towards us and lights part of the earth. So even at night we get sunlight, though not as strong as direct sunlight. How does sun determine the day and night? Is the sun flip-flopping its position back and forth between two sides of earth to give us night and day?There is no Quranic evidence for this neo-astronomy. In the Quran, the Sun moves and determines the day and night.
The phases of the moon comes from the fact that the Sun takes 24 hours to orbit the Earth while the moon takes 24 hr 50 minutes.
You either join us or die! P
I admit. offtopic
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Peace Belal,
I could not find any reference to WARKH nor YARK in the links you provided.
This is because you didn't read them carefully.
Read line (iii) 4th word and line (ix) 4th word in Abraha's inscription. (warkh)
Read the sixth line, second word in the Raqush inscription. (yarkh)Moreover, can you find if the word Shahar means Full Moon, and the Word Ramadan Means Scorching Moon in the Pre-Islamic Arabic. And once done, please share the results with us.
It looks like you were on "sabt"/rest through the 120 pages of this thread. Instead of lazily asking to be spoonfed the answers, read the thread properly and make an effort to look in Classical Arabic dictionaries and you will see that "full-moon" is one of the meanings of "shahr" and that "scorching" is one of the meanings of "ramadhan". So "shahr ramadhan" = "scorching full-moon".
Duck still stumbling with the rest of my question--How many days are between two Sabet (Saturday)? A
In Quranic Arabic, "sabet" doesn't mean Saturday so your question is pure nonsense.
If you are intelligent then tell us how many days in a week according to the great reading.
I believe brother Layth has provided a clear defination to the word Kabba, which I believe is the most accurate, in his article.
This is what Layth says
"The Kaba (cube) which was used as the center of pagan rituals, is an emulation of the Kaba of Abraham which the Nabataens may have certainly come to know through the call of Abraham to the pilgrimage many centuries ago."
He translates "kaaba" as "cube". Is that what you think? I think that any reasonable person would see that the cube has nothing to do with the god's inviolable house and this is nothing but nonsense.
Now, answer the question.
I don't think that anything can help you if you think that some cube is what the god meant by "kaaba".
Peace,
Ayman
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Peace everyone,
The sun does not determine day or night. Its job is to generate and emit light, period. The earth makes day by presenting parts of itself to the sun. The part that is hidden from the sun in night.
As everyone can see from his own contradictory words, Guest is either a hypocrite, mentally challenged or both (most likely).
Peace,
Ayman
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I don't think that anything can help you if you think that some cube is what the god meant by "kaaba".
Peace,
Ayman
Peace Ayman
Sorry this may be a little off topic, but I am a little curious now to the meaning of 'Kaaba'. If you don't mind can you please explain. Thank you for your continued patients on this thread. May God be pleased with you.
Peace
Hope
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Peace everyone,
As everyone can see from his own contradictory words, Guest is either a hypocrite, mentally challenged or both (most likely).
Peace,
Ayman
You have a comprehension problem. You react without understanding a matter. This is why your concept and the article is flawed. The SUN does not decide where on earth the day is. It is determined by the earth. Hope you get this simple matter. Otherwise tell us how we get a day on earth.
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Peace Ayman,
The sun does not determine day or night. Its job is to generate and emit light, period. The earth makes day by presenting parts of itself to the sun. The part that is hidden from the sun in night. Likewise the part that moon exposes to the sun becomes day there. The moon reflect this sunlight towards us and lights part of the earth. So even at night we get sunlight, though not as strong as direct sunlight. How does sun determine the day and night? Is the sun flip-flopping its position back and forth between two sides of earth to give us night and day?sun does not determine day or night? o ,
let us see, there is no sun, what would it be on earth?
If earth does no rotate, but sun is still there, would there be day and night on earth?
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You have a comprehension problem. You react without understanding a matter. This is why your concept and the article is flawed. The SUN does not decide where on earth the day is. It is determined by the earth. Hope you get this simple matter. Otherwise tell us how we get a day on earth.
only Allah swt determines day and night. thanks
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You have a comprehension problem. You react without understanding a matter. This is why your concept and the article is flawed. The SUN does not decide where on earth the day is. It is determined by the earth. Hope you get this simple matter. Otherwise tell us how we get a day on earth.
Brother , if there was no sun, it will be all darkness, no day/night, where as if earth did not rotate , there will still be day and night (permanent) on earth.
siki
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You have a comprehension problem. You react without understanding a matter. This is why your concept and the article is flawed. The SUN does not decide where on earth the day is. It is determined by the earth. Hope you get this simple matter. Otherwise tell us how we get a day on earth.
i'd make to you a tutorial video if only i had time. Because you seem having big problems with plain text !
One more time, please how Old are you ?
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Peace,
sun does not determine day or night? o ,
let us see, there is no sun, what would it be on earth?
If earth does no rotate, but sun is still there, would there be day and night on earth?
All Ayman alike people have understanding problem. Here is one of them.
The answer to the first question is the earth decide which of its side gets the day and NOT the sun.
The answer to the second question is dark earth, it will get some light from star.
The answer to the third question was already provided. You don't read/understand. See red text below.
Quote from ayman on September 11, 2009, 031657 PM
We can?t count the days and use lunar months as a marker because 1712 doesn?t mention the moon at all.
1712 doesn't mention SUN either. Why aren't you highlighting this fact like you do for the moon. It doesn't talk about long day or short night, it simply says we rendered the night and the day two signs. The fact is day and night is caused by earth spin. Therefore, if the earth did not spin then half of it will be lighted and other half will remain dark all the time. We use night and day to calculated fractions of lunar month. And that is the proper use. Twelve months gives us one lunar year. The new moon serve as the beginning marker and it needs sunlight to perform this job. You are making hadith when you connect the night and day to the sun and use it to satisfy your imagination. Remember there is no sun in 1712. You are beating around the bush to make your point.
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Peace Hope,
Sorry this may be a little off topic, but I am a little curious now to the meaning of 'Kaaba'. If you don't mind can you please explain. Thank you for your continued patients on this thread. May God be pleased with you.
Thank you for your question. In Arabic, the masculine and the feminine have the same meaning but the feminine can add some intensification. The Arabic word "kaab" has the same basic meaning as "kaaba". In Arabic the word "kaab" is used in expressions like "kaab al-wadi" to mean "the base of the valley" and in "kaab al-hithaa" to mean "the base of the shoe". So the word "kaab" essentially means "base". The "base" being a safe place for gathering is a well-known universal concept that everyone understands, including children who play hide and seek. On the other hand, there is nothing inherently safe or condusive to gathering about any cube, no matter how special.
Peace,
Ayman
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Peace,
All Ayman alike people have understanding problem. Here is one of them.The answer to the first question is the earth decide which of its side gets the day and NOT the sun.
The answer to the second question is dark earth, it will get some light from star.
The answer to the third question was already provided. You don't read/understand. See red text below.
It is basically the sun sun which is responsible for creating day and night , earth only helps it self by spreading this evenly.
Does God talk about day and night (in that particular aya )in reference to where you live on globe ?
Moreover what the fuss is all about ? It is a business between sun and the earth, Your friend MOON has got nothing to do with day and night.
siki
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Peace Hope,
Thank you for your question. In Arabic, the masculine and the feminine have the same meaning but the feminine can add some intensification. The Arabic word "kaab" has the same basic meaning as "kaaba". In Arabic the word "kaab" is used in expressions like "kaab al-wadi" to mean "the base of the valley" and in "kaab al-hithaa" to mean "the base of the shoe". So the word "kaab" essentially means "base". The "base" being a safe place for gathering is a well-known universal concept that everyone understands, including children who play hide and seek. On the other hand, there is nothing inherently safe or condusive to gathering about any cube, no matter how special.
Peace,
Ayman
Thank you Ayman for taking time out to answer. Sorry to everyone for going off topic.
Peace
Hope
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i'd make to you a tutorial video if only i had time. Because you seem having big problems with plain text !
One more time, please how Old are you ?
You have no knowledge of earth sun moon relationship. Sun produces light, it does not decide who gets the light. Just like if you going to a light shield room. You decided to deprive yourself of sunlight. The earth does the similar think in accordance with Gos's law. Get it. Other wise explain how the sun makes the decision as to who gets the sunlight.
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You have no knowledge of earth sun moon relationship. Sun produces light, it does not decide who gets the light. Just like if you going to a light shield room. You decided to deprive yourself of sunlight. The earth does the similar think in accordance with Gos's law. Get it. Other wise explain how the sun makes the decision as to who gets the sunlight.
let me repeat once again,
God talks about day and night in general , Not about the decision regarding who gets the light.
siki
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You have no knowledge of earth sun moon relationship. Sun produces light, it does not decide who gets the light. Just like if you going to a light shield room. You decided to deprive yourself of sunlight. The earth does the similar think in accordance with Gos's law. Get it. Other wise explain how the sun makes the decision as to who gets the sunlight.
Peace Guest
I think you and others are going off topic. The sun, moon and earth do not pick light or anything else. They are bodies in motion. The Earth orbits around the sun. The earth also spins on its axis. The moon orbits the Earth. God created the universe and everything in it and outside of it. I feel there are reasons why the earth orbits the sun, moon orbits the earth and why earth spins on its axis. You can argue that this is a natural cycle which determines our night and day as well as our seasons and calendars. I think most grown up people will know the general motions of these bodies and we can move on to main topic. Thank you. Please do not be offended.
Peace
Hope
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You have no knowledge of earth sun moon relationship. Sun produces light, it does not decide who gets the light. Just like if you going to a light shield room. You decided to deprive yourself of sunlight. The earth does the similar think in accordance with Gos's law. Get it. Other wise explain how the sun makes the decision as to who gets the sunlight.
Light determines day and night.
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Salam,
rotfl rotfl rotfl brickwall
The answer to the first question is the earth decide which of its side gets the day and NOT the sun and the earth decide which of its gets the night NOT THE MOON.
The answer to the second question is dark earth, it will get some light from star NOT FROM MOON NOT FROM SUN (ouch wait a minute, is it sun also a star? rotfl brickwall brickwall brickwall.then, where is your moon?