Hot/"ramadan" Answer
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You have a comprehension problem. You react without understanding a matter. This is why your concept and the article is flawed. The SUN does not decide where on earth the day is. It is determined by the earth. Hope you get this simple matter. Otherwise tell us how we get a day on earth.
Brother , if there was no sun, it will be all darkness, no day/night, where as if earth did not rotate , there will still be day and night (permanent) on earth.
siki
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You have a comprehension problem. You react without understanding a matter. This is why your concept and the article is flawed. The SUN does not decide where on earth the day is. It is determined by the earth. Hope you get this simple matter. Otherwise tell us how we get a day on earth.
i'd make to you a tutorial video if only i had time. Because you seem having big problems with plain text !
One more time, please how Old are you ?
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Peace,
sun does not determine day or night? o ,
let us see, there is no sun, what would it be on earth?
If earth does no rotate, but sun is still there, would there be day and night on earth?
All Ayman alike people have understanding problem. Here is one of them.
The answer to the first question is the earth decide which of its side gets the day and NOT the sun.
The answer to the second question is dark earth, it will get some light from star.
The answer to the third question was already provided. You don't read/understand. See red text below.
Quote from ayman on September 11, 2009, 031657 PM
We can?t count the days and use lunar months as a marker because 1712 doesn?t mention the moon at all.
1712 doesn't mention SUN either. Why aren't you highlighting this fact like you do for the moon. It doesn't talk about long day or short night, it simply says we rendered the night and the day two signs. The fact is day and night is caused by earth spin. Therefore, if the earth did not spin then half of it will be lighted and other half will remain dark all the time. We use night and day to calculated fractions of lunar month. And that is the proper use. Twelve months gives us one lunar year. The new moon serve as the beginning marker and it needs sunlight to perform this job. You are making hadith when you connect the night and day to the sun and use it to satisfy your imagination. Remember there is no sun in 1712. You are beating around the bush to make your point.
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Peace Hope,
Sorry this may be a little off topic, but I am a little curious now to the meaning of 'Kaaba'. If you don't mind can you please explain. Thank you for your continued patients on this thread. May God be pleased with you.
Thank you for your question. In Arabic, the masculine and the feminine have the same meaning but the feminine can add some intensification. The Arabic word "kaab" has the same basic meaning as "kaaba". In Arabic the word "kaab" is used in expressions like "kaab al-wadi" to mean "the base of the valley" and in "kaab al-hithaa" to mean "the base of the shoe". So the word "kaab" essentially means "base". The "base" being a safe place for gathering is a well-known universal concept that everyone understands, including children who play hide and seek. On the other hand, there is nothing inherently safe or condusive to gathering about any cube, no matter how special.
Peace,
Ayman
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Peace,
All Ayman alike people have understanding problem. Here is one of them.The answer to the first question is the earth decide which of its side gets the day and NOT the sun.
The answer to the second question is dark earth, it will get some light from star.
The answer to the third question was already provided. You don't read/understand. See red text below.
It is basically the sun sun which is responsible for creating day and night , earth only helps it self by spreading this evenly.
Does God talk about day and night (in that particular aya )in reference to where you live on globe ?
Moreover what the fuss is all about ? It is a business between sun and the earth, Your friend MOON has got nothing to do with day and night.
siki
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Peace Hope,
Thank you for your question. In Arabic, the masculine and the feminine have the same meaning but the feminine can add some intensification. The Arabic word "kaab" has the same basic meaning as "kaaba". In Arabic the word "kaab" is used in expressions like "kaab al-wadi" to mean "the base of the valley" and in "kaab al-hithaa" to mean "the base of the shoe". So the word "kaab" essentially means "base". The "base" being a safe place for gathering is a well-known universal concept that everyone understands, including children who play hide and seek. On the other hand, there is nothing inherently safe or condusive to gathering about any cube, no matter how special.
Peace,
Ayman
Thank you Ayman for taking time out to answer. Sorry to everyone for going off topic.
Peace
Hope
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i'd make to you a tutorial video if only i had time. Because you seem having big problems with plain text !
One more time, please how Old are you ?
You have no knowledge of earth sun moon relationship. Sun produces light, it does not decide who gets the light. Just like if you going to a light shield room. You decided to deprive yourself of sunlight. The earth does the similar think in accordance with Gos's law. Get it. Other wise explain how the sun makes the decision as to who gets the sunlight.
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You have no knowledge of earth sun moon relationship. Sun produces light, it does not decide who gets the light. Just like if you going to a light shield room. You decided to deprive yourself of sunlight. The earth does the similar think in accordance with Gos's law. Get it. Other wise explain how the sun makes the decision as to who gets the sunlight.
let me repeat once again,
God talks about day and night in general , Not about the decision regarding who gets the light.
siki
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You have no knowledge of earth sun moon relationship. Sun produces light, it does not decide who gets the light. Just like if you going to a light shield room. You decided to deprive yourself of sunlight. The earth does the similar think in accordance with Gos's law. Get it. Other wise explain how the sun makes the decision as to who gets the sunlight.
Peace Guest
I think you and others are going off topic. The sun, moon and earth do not pick light or anything else. They are bodies in motion. The Earth orbits around the sun. The earth also spins on its axis. The moon orbits the Earth. God created the universe and everything in it and outside of it. I feel there are reasons why the earth orbits the sun, moon orbits the earth and why earth spins on its axis. You can argue that this is a natural cycle which determines our night and day as well as our seasons and calendars. I think most grown up people will know the general motions of these bodies and we can move on to main topic. Thank you. Please do not be offended.
Peace
Hope
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You have no knowledge of earth sun moon relationship. Sun produces light, it does not decide who gets the light. Just like if you going to a light shield room. You decided to deprive yourself of sunlight. The earth does the similar think in accordance with Gos's law. Get it. Other wise explain how the sun makes the decision as to who gets the sunlight.
Light determines day and night.
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Salam,
rotfl rotfl rotfl brickwall
The answer to the first question is the earth decide which of its side gets the day and NOT the sun and the earth decide which of its gets the night NOT THE MOON.
The answer to the second question is dark earth, it will get some light from star NOT FROM MOON NOT FROM SUN (ouch wait a minute, is it sun also a star? rotfl brickwall brickwall brickwall.then, where is your moon?
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Peace Belal,
This is because you didn't read them carefully.
Read line (iii) 4th word and line (ix) 4th word in Abraha's inscription. (warkh)
Read the sixth line, second word in the Raqush inscription. (yarkh)Is this what do you call Arabic!!! You have lost your Brain...Can any one tell me if this looks like any writtings of Quran
http//www.mnh.si.edu/epigraphy/figs-stones/x-large/color_xl_jpeg/fig04.jpg
Let us see if Free- Minds Moderators will do something about this
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These are Ayman Evidence that Month does not mean Shahar but Warkhan
m a'in d m / gh z w t n / r b a'in t n /
b w r kh n / z th b t n / k f s d w / k l / b n ya a'in m r mMa'ndam / Ghazwatn / rab'atan / b'warkhan / Zthbatan /Kafa saadu / kl/ bani amrm
against the tribe of Ma'ad ( in ) the battle of al-Rabiya in the
month of "Dhu al Thabithan" (April) and fight (against) all the (tribes) of Bani A'amir.If Ayman saying the truth, Why non of the above Words has been used in Quran? Why the style of Writing (The way it looks) is not the same as the Quran?
CAN YOU UNDERSTAND THAT AYMAN IS MISLEADING YOU.
He knows that Shahar = Month in Arabic...And instead of admitting, he is quoting from Pagan Language that is not related to Arabic
I think I'm 100% that these guys are the followers of some Dark Side, which there main objective is to mislead Humans from God's Path.
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Peace Hope,
Thank you for your question. In Arabic, the masculine and the feminine have the same meaning but the feminine can add some intensification. The Arabic word "kaab" has the same basic meaning as "kaaba". In Arabic the word "kaab" is used in expressions like "kaab al-wadi" to mean "the base of the valley" and in "kaab al-hithaa" to mean "the base of the shoe". So the word "kaab" essentially means "base". The "base" being a safe place for gathering is a well-known universal concept that everyone understands, including children who play hide and seek. On the other hand, there is nothing inherently safe or condusive to gathering about any cube, no matter how special.
Peace,
Ayman
So your answer is There is no Hajj nor a Place for Hajj.
If this is true, then I truly mean the following
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I think I'm 100% that these guys are the followers of some Dark Side, which there main objective is to mislead Humans from God's Path.
So now you share farida's accusations. you're not "out of it " anymore.
Ok, let me put this clear
WE ARE FOLLOWERS OF A DARK SIDE ORGANISATION, AND WE ARE HERE TO MISLEAD HUMANS FROM GOD'S PATH. NOT ALL HUMANS, ONLY THE IDIOTS. SMART PEOPLE LIKE YOU AND FARIDA ALWAYS SEE IT COMING AND AVOID IT. BUT PLEASE, DONT TELL ANYONE AND LET US FINISH OUR JOB, IF WE DONT HIRE AT LEAST 10 IDIOTS PER DAY, WE WILL BE FIRED, AND NO ORGANISATION WILL ACCEPT US ANYMORE IN ANY OTHER JOB.
PLEASE I HAVE A FAMILY TO FEED. DONT RUIN MY LIFE !!!!!Salam
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Peace BelH,
stop being a drama queen, a few spoken languages have been known to change their scripts, even in contemporary times, like
Turkish...
and the Quran was revealed in the arabic tongue, and could be written by the way in any written arabic script... -
WE ARE FOLLOWERS OF A DARK SIDE ORGANISATION, AND WE ARE HERE TO MISLEAD HUMANS FROM GOD'S PATH. NOT ALL HUMANS, ONLY THE IDIOTS. SMART PEOPLE LIKE YOU AND FARIDA ALWAYS SEE IT COMING AND AVOID IT. BUT PLEASE, DONT TELL ANYONE AND LET US FINISH OUR JOB, IF WE DONT HIRE AT LEAST 10 IDIOTS PER DAY, WE WILL BE FIRED, AND NO ORGANISATION WILL ACCEPT US ANYMORE IN ANY OTHER JOB.
PLEASE I HAVE A FAMILY TO FEED. DONT RUIN MY LIFE !!!!!rotfl Who is darth vader? Who is Luke Skywalker? and I supose the idiots are the storm troopers rotfl jedi
May the force be with you and protect you all from the death star jedi peaceWhen did this thread get out of hand lol giveup
Peace
Hope
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http//www.mnh.si.edu/epigraphy/figs-stones/x-large/color_xl_jpeg/fig04.jpg
Peace,
The above language, which Ayman used to refute that the Arabic meaning of month is Shahar, contains the following words
Begin Quote
w yement / wa r'a rab hamw / Twadam / w thamat / satro / zn / satran / K'ghazow
Ma'ndam / Ghazwatn / rab'atan / b'warkhan / Zthbatan /Kafa saadu / kl/ bani amrm
Wazaki/ malikn/ abjabar / b ainam/ kadat/ wain/ w basharm / bin hasahanm/ bainm
San dam/ wa mardam / wa hadaru/ qadami / jayshan/
alia bani yamram/ kadat/ wail/ b wad /samrakh / wa mardam/ wa sadam/ b wad..B manhaj / tarban/ w zabahow / wa sarw /
w ghanamw / zaisam / wa makhdah/ malakin/ b halban/ wa danwKa zalam/ maidam / wrahanw / wa badanahaw /
nwa sa'aham mw / amram / bin/ mazran.Wa rahanamw / bin haw / wa sata khalafw / ala/ ma'dam/ wa qafalw/ bin/ hal.
( bi)n / (b) akhayal / rahman / wa rakhaw / zalan / salthany / w sathya/ ws
End Quote
Can anyone, including Ayman and his followers, quote any of the above words in Quran...If you cannot, and you will not, then would this make you feel that Ayman is underestimating your intelligence by claiming that the above language is Authantic Arabic like the Quran Language.
rotfl This is stupidity as it can be... rotfl
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Peace BelH,
stop being a drama queen, a few spoken languages have been known to change their scripts, even in contemporary times, like
Turkish...
and the Quran was revealed in the arabic tongue, and could be written by the way in any written arabic script...Peace,
How long did it take for it to change to thishttp//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/93/Qur%27anic_Manuscript_-3-Hijazi_script.jpg/494px-Qur%27anic_Manuscript-3-_Hijazi_script.jpg
That is a quite change between the above and what Ayman posted
http//www.mnh.si.edu/epigraphy/figs-stones/x-large/color_xl_jpeg/fig04.jpg
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peace belH
this looks to me like a genealogical tree, so with people's names i need more samples with actual text renderings of actual descriptions
to make a final judgment.
here you are just questioning a pre-islamic exhibit whether it is the arabic tongue or not, right?
regarding the actual logic and rationality of the luni-solar calendar, i believe it is pretty impressive, and can only be divine, not satanic
as you try to suggest.
besides, you call us Ayman followers, but you seem to be a Layth follower regarding other matters? are you not?
i think you are very much emotionally attached to the traditional ramadan mythology, that is why you and those like you defend it
so fiercely, throwing out all kinds of desperate excuses, even going as far as using character assassination, this was a ploy used by disbelievers against Messengers, so you are not in good company, sorry...err...
now for what i do not accept...
ka'aba in the part of the world i spent my formative years in (sahara desert), in arabic tribal sahraoui, reckoned to be very close to the pure Arabic tongue, ka'aba refers to a swelling, or something that has form/shape, and the rock in the dome of the rock in Jerusalem, together with other clues in the Qur'an fits that very well. (off topic)