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    siki
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    Peace Ayman,
    The sun does not determine day or night. Its job is to generate and emit light, period. The earth makes day by presenting parts of itself to the sun. The part that is hidden from the sun in night. Likewise the part that moon exposes to the sun becomes day there. The moon reflect this sunlight towards us and lights part of the earth. So even at night we get sunlight, though not as strong as direct sunlight. How does sun determine the day and night? Is the sun flip-flopping its position back and forth between two sides of earth to give us night and day?

    sun does not determine day or night? o ,

    let us see, there is no sun, what would it be on earth?

    If earth does no rotate, but sun is still there, would there be day and night on earth?

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      You have a comprehension problem. You react without understanding a matter. This is why your concept and the article is flawed. The SUN does not decide where on earth the day is. It is determined by the earth. Hope you get this simple matter. Otherwise tell us how we get a day on earth.

      only Allah swt determines day and night. thanks

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        You have a comprehension problem. You react without understanding a matter. This is why your concept and the article is flawed. The SUN does not decide where on earth the day is. It is determined by the earth. Hope you get this simple matter. Otherwise tell us how we get a day on earth.

        Brother , if there was no sun, it will be all darkness, no day/night, where as if earth did not rotate , there will still be day and night (permanent) on earth.

        siki

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          quickduck
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          You have a comprehension problem. You react without understanding a matter. This is why your concept and the article is flawed. The SUN does not decide where on earth the day is. It is determined by the earth. Hope you get this simple matter. Otherwise tell us how we get a day on earth.

          i'd make to you a tutorial video if only i had time. Because you seem having big problems with plain text !

          One more time, please how Old are you ?

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            Peace,

            sun does not determine day or night? o ,

            let us see, there is no sun, what would it be on earth?

            If earth does no rotate, but sun is still there, would there be day and night on earth?

            All Ayman alike people have understanding problem. Here is one of them.

            The answer to the first question is the earth decide which of its side gets the day and NOT the sun.

            The answer to the second question is dark earth, it will get some light from star.

            The answer to the third question was already provided. You don't read/understand. See red text below.

            Quote from ayman on September 11, 2009, 031657 PM

            We can?t count the days and use lunar months as a marker because 1712 doesn?t mention the moon at all.

            1712 doesn't mention SUN either. Why aren't you highlighting this fact like you do for the moon. It doesn't talk about long day or short night, it simply says we rendered the night and the day two signs. The fact is day and night is caused by earth spin. Therefore, if the earth did not spin then half of it will be lighted and other half will remain dark all the time. We use night and day to calculated fractions of lunar month. And that is the proper use. Twelve months gives us one lunar year. The new moon serve as the beginning marker and it needs sunlight to perform this job. You are making hadith when you connect the night and day to the sun and use it to satisfy your imagination. Remember there is no sun in 1712. You are beating around the bush to make your point.

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              Peace Hope,

              Sorry this may be a little off topic, but I am a little curious now to the meaning of 'Kaaba'. If you don't mind can you please explain. Thank you for your continued patients on this thread. May God be pleased with you.

              Thank you for your question. In Arabic, the masculine and the feminine have the same meaning but the feminine can add some intensification. The Arabic word "kaab" has the same basic meaning as "kaaba". In Arabic the word "kaab" is used in expressions like "kaab al-wadi" to mean "the base of the valley" and in "kaab al-hithaa" to mean "the base of the shoe". So the word "kaab" essentially means "base". The "base" being a safe place for gathering is a well-known universal concept that everyone understands, including children who play hide and seek. On the other hand, there is nothing inherently safe or condusive to gathering about any cube, no matter how special.

              Peace,

              Ayman

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                siki
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                Peace,
                All Ayman alike people have understanding problem. Here is one of them.

                The answer to the first question is the earth decide which of its side gets the day and NOT the sun.

                The answer to the second question is dark earth, it will get some light from star.

                The answer to the third question was already provided. You don't read/understand. See red text below.

                It is basically the sun sun which is responsible for creating day and night , earth only helps it self by spreading this evenly.

                Does God talk about day and night (in that particular aya )in reference to where you live on globe ?

                Moreover what the fuss is all about ? It is a business between sun and the earth, Your friend MOON has got nothing to do with day and night.

                siki

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                  Peace Hope,

                  Thank you for your question. In Arabic, the masculine and the feminine have the same meaning but the feminine can add some intensification. The Arabic word "kaab" has the same basic meaning as "kaaba". In Arabic the word "kaab" is used in expressions like "kaab al-wadi" to mean "the base of the valley" and in "kaab al-hithaa" to mean "the base of the shoe". So the word "kaab" essentially means "base". The "base" being a safe place for gathering is a well-known universal concept that everyone understands, including children who play hide and seek. On the other hand, there is nothing inherently safe or condusive to gathering about any cube, no matter how special.

                  Peace,

                  Ayman

                  Thank you Ayman for taking time out to answer. Sorry to everyone for going off topic.

                  Peace

                  Hope

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                    i'd make to you a tutorial video if only i had time. Because you seem having big problems with plain text !

                    One more time, please how Old are you ?

                    You have no knowledge of earth sun moon relationship. Sun produces light, it does not decide who gets the light. Just like if you going to a light shield room. You decided to deprive yourself of sunlight. The earth does the similar think in accordance with Gos's law. Get it. Other wise explain how the sun makes the decision as to who gets the sunlight.

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                      siki
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                      You have no knowledge of earth sun moon relationship. Sun produces light, it does not decide who gets the light. Just like if you going to a light shield room. You decided to deprive yourself of sunlight. The earth does the similar think in accordance with Gos's law. Get it. Other wise explain how the sun makes the decision as to who gets the sunlight.

                      let me repeat once again,

                      God talks about day and night in general , Not about the decision regarding who gets the light.

                      siki

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                        hope4
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                        You have no knowledge of earth sun moon relationship. Sun produces light, it does not decide who gets the light. Just like if you going to a light shield room. You decided to deprive yourself of sunlight. The earth does the similar think in accordance with Gos's law. Get it. Other wise explain how the sun makes the decision as to who gets the sunlight.

                        Peace Guest

                        I think you and others are going off topic. The sun, moon and earth do not pick light or anything else. They are bodies in motion. The Earth orbits around the sun. The earth also spins on its axis. The moon orbits the Earth. God created the universe and everything in it and outside of it. I feel there are reasons why the earth orbits the sun, moon orbits the earth and why earth spins on its axis. You can argue that this is a natural cycle which determines our night and day as well as our seasons and calendars. I think most grown up people will know the general motions of these bodies and we can move on to main topic. Thank you. Please do not be offended.

                        Peace

                        Hope

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                          You have no knowledge of earth sun moon relationship. Sun produces light, it does not decide who gets the light. Just like if you going to a light shield room. You decided to deprive yourself of sunlight. The earth does the similar think in accordance with Gos's law. Get it. Other wise explain how the sun makes the decision as to who gets the sunlight.

                          Light determines day and night.

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                            arista
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                            Salam,

                            rotfl rotfl rotfl brickwall

                            The answer to the first question is the earth decide which of its side gets the day and NOT the sun and the earth decide which of its gets the night NOT THE MOON.
                            The answer to the second question is dark earth, it will get some light from star NOT FROM MOON NOT FROM SUN (ouch wait a minute, is it sun also a star? rotfl brickwall brickwall brickwall.

                            then, where is your moon?

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                              Peace Belal,

                              This is because you didn't read them carefully.
                              Read line (iii) 4th word and line (ix) 4th word in Abraha's inscription. (warkh)
                              Read the sixth line, second word in the Raqush inscription. (yarkh)

                              Is this what do you call Arabic!!! You have lost your Brain...Can any one tell me if this looks like any writtings of Quran

                              http//www.mnh.si.edu/epigraphy/figs-stones/x-large/color_xl_jpeg/fig04.jpg

                              Let us see if Free- Minds Moderators will do something about this

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                                belH
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                                These are Ayman Evidence that Month does not mean Shahar but Warkhan

                                m a'in d m / gh z w t n / r b a'in t n /
                                b w r kh n / z th b t n / k f s d w / k l / b n ya a'in m r m

                                Ma'ndam / Ghazwatn / rab'atan / b'warkhan / Zthbatan /Kafa saadu / kl/ bani amrm

                                against the tribe of Ma'ad ( in ) the battle of al-Rabiya in the
                                month of "Dhu al Thabithan" (April) and fight (against) all the (tribes) of Bani A'amir.

                                If Ayman saying the truth, Why non of the above Words has been used in Quran? Why the style of Writing (The way it looks) is not the same as the Quran?

                                CAN YOU UNDERSTAND THAT AYMAN IS MISLEADING YOU.

                                He knows that Shahar = Month in Arabic...And instead of admitting, he is quoting from Pagan Language that is not related to Arabic

                                I think I'm 100% that these guys are the followers of some Dark Side, which there main objective is to mislead Humans from God's Path.

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                                  belH
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                                  Peace Hope,

                                  Thank you for your question. In Arabic, the masculine and the feminine have the same meaning but the feminine can add some intensification. The Arabic word "kaab" has the same basic meaning as "kaaba". In Arabic the word "kaab" is used in expressions like "kaab al-wadi" to mean "the base of the valley" and in "kaab al-hithaa" to mean "the base of the shoe". So the word "kaab" essentially means "base". The "base" being a safe place for gathering is a well-known universal concept that everyone understands, including children who play hide and seek. On the other hand, there is nothing inherently safe or condusive to gathering about any cube, no matter how special.

                                  Peace,

                                  Ayman

                                  So your answer is There is no Hajj nor a Place for Hajj.

                                  If this is true, then I truly mean the following

                                  1091
                                  1092
                                  1093
                                  1094
                                  1095
                                  1096

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                                    quickduck
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                                    I think I'm 100% that these guys are the followers of some Dark Side, which there main objective is to mislead Humans from God's Path.

                                    So now you share farida's accusations. you're not "out of it " anymore.

                                    Ok, let me put this clear

                                    WE ARE FOLLOWERS OF A DARK SIDE ORGANISATION, AND WE ARE HERE TO MISLEAD HUMANS FROM GOD'S PATH. NOT ALL HUMANS, ONLY THE IDIOTS. SMART PEOPLE LIKE YOU AND FARIDA ALWAYS SEE IT COMING AND AVOID IT. BUT PLEASE, DONT TELL ANYONE AND LET US FINISH OUR JOB, IF WE DONT HIRE AT LEAST 10 IDIOTS PER DAY, WE WILL BE FIRED, AND NO ORGANISATION WILL ACCEPT US ANYMORE IN ANY OTHER JOB.
                                    PLEASE I HAVE A FAMILY TO FEED. DONT RUIN MY LIFE !!!!!

                                    Salam

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                                      noble
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                                      Peace BelH,
                                      stop being a drama queen, a few spoken languages have been known to change their scripts, even in contemporary times, like
                                      Turkish...
                                      and the Quran was revealed in the arabic tongue, and could be written by the way in any written arabic script...

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                                        WE ARE FOLLOWERS OF A DARK SIDE ORGANISATION, AND WE ARE HERE TO MISLEAD HUMANS FROM GOD'S PATH. NOT ALL HUMANS, ONLY THE IDIOTS. SMART PEOPLE LIKE YOU AND FARIDA ALWAYS SEE IT COMING AND AVOID IT. BUT PLEASE, DONT TELL ANYONE AND LET US FINISH OUR JOB, IF WE DONT HIRE AT LEAST 10 IDIOTS PER DAY, WE WILL BE FIRED, AND NO ORGANISATION WILL ACCEPT US ANYMORE IN ANY OTHER JOB.
                                        PLEASE I HAVE A FAMILY TO FEED. DONT RUIN MY LIFE !!!!!

                                        rotfl Who is darth vader? Who is Luke Skywalker? and I supose the idiots are the storm troopers rotfl jedi
                                        May the force be with you and protect you all from the death star jedi peace

                                        When did this thread get out of hand lol giveup

                                        Peace

                                        Hope

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                                          belH
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                                          http//www.mnh.si.edu/epigraphy/figs-stones/x-large/color_xl_jpeg/fig04.jpg

                                          Peace,

                                          The above language, which Ayman used to refute that the Arabic meaning of month is Shahar, contains the following words

                                          Begin Quote

                                          w yement / wa r'a rab hamw / Twadam / w thamat / satro / zn / satran / K'ghazow

                                          Ma'ndam / Ghazwatn / rab'atan / b'warkhan / Zthbatan /Kafa saadu / kl/ bani amrm

                                          Wazaki/ malikn/ abjabar / b ainam/ kadat/ wain/ w basharm / bin hasahanm/ bainm

                                          San dam/ wa mardam / wa hadaru/ qadami / jayshan/
                                          alia bani yamram/ kadat/ wail/ b wad /samrakh / wa mardam/ wa sadam/ b wad..

                                          B manhaj / tarban/ w zabahow / wa sarw /
                                          w ghanamw / zaisam / wa makhdah/ malakin/ b halban/ wa danw

                                          Ka zalam/ maidam / wrahanw / wa badanahaw /
                                          nwa sa'aham mw / amram / bin/ mazran.

                                          Wa rahanamw / bin haw / wa sata khalafw / ala/ ma'dam/ wa qafalw/ bin/ hal.

                                          ( bi)n / (b) akhayal / rahman / wa rakhaw / zalan / salthany / w sathya/ ws

                                          End Quote

                                          Can anyone, including Ayman and his followers, quote any of the above words in Quran...If you cannot, and you will not, then would this make you feel that Ayman is underestimating your intelligence by claiming that the above language is Authantic Arabic like the Quran Language.

                                          rotfl This is stupidity as it can be... rotfl

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