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    SwedenMajidah
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    rotfl

    Peace sister Taj,

    Happy to see you laugh at quotes like that of br afridi

    Maria

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      Alen
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      Salam Aleikum

      Can anybody please tell me where it says in the Quran that women have to cover their head when praying?
      I searched the Site and Forum for it but didn`t find anything.

      Thanks in advance
      Salam
      warda

      Peace,
      Respectfully.

      The God doesn't mention praying with hijab is obligatory.
      I believe that sunnis have carried on with the tradition of head wear and i also believe that hijab is not compulsory for a woman.
      Read The Quran.

      Glory be to our God.
      Peace.

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        TheNabi
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        Peace

        well my 1st question is what's the difference between these two?

        Anyone can do du'a, salaat is more of a requirement of a distinct group of people and is not necessarily something anyone can or will do.

        My second question is do u feel really at ease when not covering your head with a hijab?coz frankly I cant..nor will i be able to concentrate..am gonna feel something is missing from me,really..u might find it funny though

        I'd advice you to get you head straight. Unless you're praying about the horrible condition of your headscarf and are asking your god to help you in some way with it you should focus on the intent of your prayer/s. God knows what you feel, how you look inside and out, what you hide and what you reveal. I think your feeling uncomfortable before your rabb is just you being in ignorance of your lord. Hopefully what you will find missing, a missing burden, will be a tradition that overshadows God's guidance.

        Joe

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          drfazl
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          Prayer is realizing and understanding who God is and then rehearsing all the time in His remembrance and believing in Him alone. He is the One and the only who had revealed to us of our needs in both the worlds in the first place. We should not repeat to Him with our own physical words as dua, as our language is full of limitations that can only fit in to the physical things and ask from Him only the material benefits in this world; and we forbid ourselves the wisdom of unseen world tomorrow, the real Wish of Allah in our hearts.

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          When your Hajj is thus Blessed, remember Allah even more, as you used to remember your fathers. Some say ?O God! Give us everything in this world.? For such there is no good in the hereafter.
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          Yet, some among them say ? O our God, give us good things in this life; and good things in the hereafter; and save us from the torment of fire.?

          We must follow the verse 2 201 and shall be doubly careful when we make our dua, the language we use mainly cater to this material world. It is best to receive the Wish from Allah as such and believe in it as if it were granted to us already. This is the way to dignify Allah, for when Allah decrees on something all that He has to say to it is "Be!" And it is! Now it is there in our hearts as our deepest Wishes; preserve the "Be!" of Him and thereafter wait in patience for the hereafter. This is prayerful dua.

          Prayer is realizing and understanding who Allah is; and dua is believing in His Might and Power over all things. Prayerful dua is believing in God send messages i.e the deep wishes and keeping up patience thereafter.
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            pcborg
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            Salaam,

            I have dealt with the topic of women covering their head in the Qur'an in depth along with the topic of salaat, my papers can be found on my website, www.detailedquran.com

            if you have any questions then email me from the site.

            Regarding covering the head in prayer per say, there is no mention of it in the qur'an to the best of my knowledge. However if you are out or in public, then you must wear it as part of the guidance of Allah for woman's dress code.

            salaam.

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              Soraya
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              Assalamu Alaykum,
              today while performing my salat fajr, I worn a 3/4 short and a top since when I woke up I wore that and if I would take time to look for proper and decent clothes, am definitely gonna be late for work...My question is Are my salats accepted??

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                TAJ
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                Peace,

                Assalamu Alaykum,
                today while performing my salat fajr, I worn a 3/4 short and a top since when I woke up I wore that and if I would take time to look for proper and decent clothes, am definitely gonna be late for work...My question is Are my salats accepted??

                What has salat got to do with clothes?

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                  Soraya
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                  Yes that's true..U have cleared my doubts actually.

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                    No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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                    Assalamu Alaykum,
                    today while performing my salat fajr, I worn a 3/4 short and a top since when I woke up I wore that and if I would take time to look for proper and decent clothes, am definitely gonna be late for work...My question is Are my salats accepted??

                    That's perfectly fine. If you uphold the salat by yourself, then I'd say that it is up to you what you wear. If you are around others, then you should follow the following guidelines

                    2431 Tell the acknowledging women to lower their gaze and guard their private parts, and that they should not show off their attraction except what is apparent thereof, and let them cast their clothes over their cleavage...

                    I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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                      BornAgain
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                      So, based on the discussion so far, wearing a veil is not prescribed in the Quran, but rather in the Bible... All my life, I have been wearing a veil that covers the whole of my body when I salat... It is rather difficult to start praying without one, it has become a habit actually. Will it be a sin to continue praying with veil one, knowing the fact that it is not prescribed in the Quran? I mean, sure it is not prescribed, but it is forbidden to wear one while praying (with cultural and habitual aspects as the reason)?

                      Thanks

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                        afridi220
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                        So, based on the discussion so far, wearing a veil is not prescribed in the Quran, but rather in the Bible... All my life, I have been wearing a veil that covers the whole of my body when I salat... It is rather difficult to start praying without one, it has become a habit actually. Will it be a sin to continue praying with veil one, knowing the fact that it is not prescribed in the Quran? I mean, sure it is not prescribed, but it is forbidden to wear one while praying (with cultural and habitual aspects as the reason)?

                        Thanks

                        It is not forbidden also and not a bad thing at all until and unless it is forced upon you. police

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                          Layth
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                          Salam,

                          Will it be a sin to continue praying with veil one, knowing the fact that it is not prescribed in the Quran? I mean, sure it is not prescribed, but it is forbidden to wear one while praying (with cultural and habitual aspects as the reason)?

                          As long as you know that it is not a requirement from God, then there is no harm (it becomes a personal choice/preference - just like the foods Jacob forbade for himself).

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                            abdalquran
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                            Salam,

                            How can Jacob forbid anything for himself? He was a nabiy and therefore only judged with Allah's law. Israil is not Jacob. Please read the bible and you'll see the how Jacob got to be renamed israil. There's nothing quranic about it.

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                              Layth
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                              Salam,

                              How can Jacob forbid anything for himself? He was a nabiy and therefore only judged with Allah's law. Israil is not Jacob. Please read the bible and you'll see the how Jacob got to be renamed israil. There's nothing quranic about it.

                              I do not read the bible to understand God's system - we have the Quran which is sufficient as well as overriding.

                              Being a nabi does not mean that a person is receiving divine instruction all the time.

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                                Q_student
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                                Peace,

                                What has salat got to do with clothes?

                                Peace
                                Mashallah
                                Every action and duty has some Etiquettes.
                                What an office has to do with clothes ,you can go naked or in shorts ,No problem.

                                Regards

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                                  afridi220
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                                  Peace
                                  Mashallah
                                  Every action and duty has some Etiquettes.
                                  What an office has to do with clothes ,you can go naked or in shorts ,No problem.

                                  Regards

                                  Yes you can if your office is in you private apartment and if there are no cctv cameras. ;D

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                                    Q_student
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                                    Yes you can if your office is in you private apartment and if there are no cctv cameras. ;D

                                    Peace
                                    I think it happens in "Pakhtoon Khah"
                                    Regards

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                                      Ahmad_Bilal
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                                      That's perfectly fine. If you uphold the salat by yourself, then I'd say that it is up to you what you wear. If you are around others, then you should follow the following guidelines

                                      2431 Tell the acknowledging women to lower their gaze and guard their private parts, and that they should not show off their attraction except what is apparent thereof, and let them cast their clothes over their cleavage...

                                      After looking more into that passage, I'm thinking that's not a really good translation of the verse. Firstly, it tells the believing women to lower their gaze and guard their chastity, instructing them to hide (or not make apparent) their beauty. Other passages also tell them not to show their beauty, saying it's like the ignorant people of past times (i.e. Q. 3333). Also, 2431 says "illa ma zahara min-ha"/except what appears thereof. This most likely applies to what it customary for the women to wear, most likely referring to their faces and hands. Therefore, "clothes over their cleavage" is not a good translation of the passage. The word "khimaar" means head-covering. So, when appearing in public, women should cover their heads. I kind of agree with the interpretation by "pcborg" on his website.
                                      http//www.detailedquran.com/
                                      It makes the most sense on this subject...

                                      Now, this is only talking about modesty in public or around other people. So, obviously, in the privacy of your own home, there's no uniform for observing "al-salaat", and people should do what makes them feel most comfortable.

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                                        abdalquran
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                                        Salam,

                                        I do not read the bible to understand God's system - we have the Quran which is sufficient as well as overriding.

                                        Agreed. However, with the Quran alone, you can never reason that Israil is Ya'qoob who forbade things for himself. Take a look

                                        Quran 393

                                        What does the 'torah' have anything to do with Jacob? And where can one find the equivocation that Israil is actually Yaqoob? Your reasoning is from the bible, im sorry to say.

                                        Being a nabi does not mean that a person is receiving divine instruction all the time.

                                        It's not about recieving divine instruction 'all the time'. It's about making things forbidden for himself outside God's command. Being a nabiy isnt a 9 to 5 job where the guy can go home, get out of his nabiy uniform, break out a six-pack and once a week (although watching football is ok), have poker night with the boys. He's entitled to have his preferences sure, but he's not allowed to make things forbidden outside God's forbiddings. The Nabiy was actually told off for doing this (661-2)

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                                          afridi220
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                                          Peace
                                          I think it happens in "Pakhtoon Khah"
                                          Regards

                                          Yes it can happen their too if your office is their.

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