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Praying with the Hijab

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    drfazl
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    Prayer is realizing and understanding who God is and then rehearsing all the time in His remembrance and believing in Him alone. He is the One and the only who had revealed to us of our needs in both the worlds in the first place. We should not repeat to Him with our own physical words as dua, as our language is full of limitations that can only fit in to the physical things and ask from Him only the material benefits in this world; and we forbid ourselves the wisdom of unseen world tomorrow, the real Wish of Allah in our hearts.

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    When your Hajj is thus Blessed, remember Allah even more, as you used to remember your fathers. Some say ?O God! Give us everything in this world.? For such there is no good in the hereafter.
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    Yet, some among them say ? O our God, give us good things in this life; and good things in the hereafter; and save us from the torment of fire.?

    We must follow the verse 2 201 and shall be doubly careful when we make our dua, the language we use mainly cater to this material world. It is best to receive the Wish from Allah as such and believe in it as if it were granted to us already. This is the way to dignify Allah, for when Allah decrees on something all that He has to say to it is "Be!" And it is! Now it is there in our hearts as our deepest Wishes; preserve the "Be!" of Him and thereafter wait in patience for the hereafter. This is prayerful dua.

    Prayer is realizing and understanding who Allah is; and dua is believing in His Might and Power over all things. Prayerful dua is believing in God send messages i.e the deep wishes and keeping up patience thereafter.
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      pcborg
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      Salaam,

      I have dealt with the topic of women covering their head in the Qur'an in depth along with the topic of salaat, my papers can be found on my website, www.detailedquran.com

      if you have any questions then email me from the site.

      Regarding covering the head in prayer per say, there is no mention of it in the qur'an to the best of my knowledge. However if you are out or in public, then you must wear it as part of the guidance of Allah for woman's dress code.

      salaam.

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        Soraya
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        Assalamu Alaykum,
        today while performing my salat fajr, I worn a 3/4 short and a top since when I woke up I wore that and if I would take time to look for proper and decent clothes, am definitely gonna be late for work...My question is Are my salats accepted??

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          TAJ
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          Peace,

          Assalamu Alaykum,
          today while performing my salat fajr, I worn a 3/4 short and a top since when I woke up I wore that and if I would take time to look for proper and decent clothes, am definitely gonna be late for work...My question is Are my salats accepted??

          What has salat got to do with clothes?

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            Soraya
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            Yes that's true..U have cleared my doubts actually.

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              No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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              Assalamu Alaykum,
              today while performing my salat fajr, I worn a 3/4 short and a top since when I woke up I wore that and if I would take time to look for proper and decent clothes, am definitely gonna be late for work...My question is Are my salats accepted??

              That's perfectly fine. If you uphold the salat by yourself, then I'd say that it is up to you what you wear. If you are around others, then you should follow the following guidelines

              2431 Tell the acknowledging women to lower their gaze and guard their private parts, and that they should not show off their attraction except what is apparent thereof, and let them cast their clothes over their cleavage...

              I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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                BornAgain
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                So, based on the discussion so far, wearing a veil is not prescribed in the Quran, but rather in the Bible... All my life, I have been wearing a veil that covers the whole of my body when I salat... It is rather difficult to start praying without one, it has become a habit actually. Will it be a sin to continue praying with veil one, knowing the fact that it is not prescribed in the Quran? I mean, sure it is not prescribed, but it is forbidden to wear one while praying (with cultural and habitual aspects as the reason)?

                Thanks

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                  afridi220
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                  So, based on the discussion so far, wearing a veil is not prescribed in the Quran, but rather in the Bible... All my life, I have been wearing a veil that covers the whole of my body when I salat... It is rather difficult to start praying without one, it has become a habit actually. Will it be a sin to continue praying with veil one, knowing the fact that it is not prescribed in the Quran? I mean, sure it is not prescribed, but it is forbidden to wear one while praying (with cultural and habitual aspects as the reason)?

                  Thanks

                  It is not forbidden also and not a bad thing at all until and unless it is forced upon you. police

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                    Layth
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                    Salam,

                    Will it be a sin to continue praying with veil one, knowing the fact that it is not prescribed in the Quran? I mean, sure it is not prescribed, but it is forbidden to wear one while praying (with cultural and habitual aspects as the reason)?

                    As long as you know that it is not a requirement from God, then there is no harm (it becomes a personal choice/preference - just like the foods Jacob forbade for himself).

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                      abdalquran
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                      Salam,

                      How can Jacob forbid anything for himself? He was a nabiy and therefore only judged with Allah's law. Israil is not Jacob. Please read the bible and you'll see the how Jacob got to be renamed israil. There's nothing quranic about it.

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                        Layth
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                        Salam,

                        How can Jacob forbid anything for himself? He was a nabiy and therefore only judged with Allah's law. Israil is not Jacob. Please read the bible and you'll see the how Jacob got to be renamed israil. There's nothing quranic about it.

                        I do not read the bible to understand God's system - we have the Quran which is sufficient as well as overriding.

                        Being a nabi does not mean that a person is receiving divine instruction all the time.

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                          Q_student
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                          Peace,

                          What has salat got to do with clothes?

                          Peace
                          Mashallah
                          Every action and duty has some Etiquettes.
                          What an office has to do with clothes ,you can go naked or in shorts ,No problem.

                          Regards

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                            afridi220
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                            Peace
                            Mashallah
                            Every action and duty has some Etiquettes.
                            What an office has to do with clothes ,you can go naked or in shorts ,No problem.

                            Regards

                            Yes you can if your office is in you private apartment and if there are no cctv cameras. ;D

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                              Q_student
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                              Yes you can if your office is in you private apartment and if there are no cctv cameras. ;D

                              Peace
                              I think it happens in "Pakhtoon Khah"
                              Regards

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                                Ahmad_Bilal
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                                That's perfectly fine. If you uphold the salat by yourself, then I'd say that it is up to you what you wear. If you are around others, then you should follow the following guidelines

                                2431 Tell the acknowledging women to lower their gaze and guard their private parts, and that they should not show off their attraction except what is apparent thereof, and let them cast their clothes over their cleavage...

                                After looking more into that passage, I'm thinking that's not a really good translation of the verse. Firstly, it tells the believing women to lower their gaze and guard their chastity, instructing them to hide (or not make apparent) their beauty. Other passages also tell them not to show their beauty, saying it's like the ignorant people of past times (i.e. Q. 3333). Also, 2431 says "illa ma zahara min-ha"/except what appears thereof. This most likely applies to what it customary for the women to wear, most likely referring to their faces and hands. Therefore, "clothes over their cleavage" is not a good translation of the passage. The word "khimaar" means head-covering. So, when appearing in public, women should cover their heads. I kind of agree with the interpretation by "pcborg" on his website.
                                http//www.detailedquran.com/
                                It makes the most sense on this subject...

                                Now, this is only talking about modesty in public or around other people. So, obviously, in the privacy of your own home, there's no uniform for observing "al-salaat", and people should do what makes them feel most comfortable.

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                                  abdalquran
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                                  Salam,

                                  I do not read the bible to understand God's system - we have the Quran which is sufficient as well as overriding.

                                  Agreed. However, with the Quran alone, you can never reason that Israil is Ya'qoob who forbade things for himself. Take a look

                                  Quran 393

                                  What does the 'torah' have anything to do with Jacob? And where can one find the equivocation that Israil is actually Yaqoob? Your reasoning is from the bible, im sorry to say.

                                  Being a nabi does not mean that a person is receiving divine instruction all the time.

                                  It's not about recieving divine instruction 'all the time'. It's about making things forbidden for himself outside God's command. Being a nabiy isnt a 9 to 5 job where the guy can go home, get out of his nabiy uniform, break out a six-pack and once a week (although watching football is ok), have poker night with the boys. He's entitled to have his preferences sure, but he's not allowed to make things forbidden outside God's forbiddings. The Nabiy was actually told off for doing this (661-2)

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                                    afridi220
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                                    Peace
                                    I think it happens in "Pakhtoon Khah"
                                    Regards

                                    Yes it can happen their too if your office is their.

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                                      Layth
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                                      Salam,

                                      Agreed. However, with the Quran alone, you can never reason that Israil is Ya'qoob who forbade things for himself. Take a look

                                      Quran 393

                                      What does the 'torah' have anything to do with Jacob? And where can one find the equivocation that Israil is actually Yaqoob? Your reasoning is from the bible, im sorry to say.

                                      Here is why I find Jacob to be Israel

                                      1. According to 393 and 1958, Israel is a person who exsted before the Torah was revealed.
                                      2. According to 512 and 7160, the 'children of Israel' are made-up of twelve tribes/people.
                                      3. According to 124, Jacob had 12 sons.
                                      4. According to 1299, it was Joseph who brought his family and brothers to live in Egypt.
                                      5. According to 2047, the first time we read about the 'children of Israel' is in Egypt where Moses is sent.

                                      As you can see, my conclusion has nothing to do with the bible...just by putting together the clus given to us in the Quran.

                                      It's not about recieving divine instruction 'all the time'. It's about making things forbidden for himself outside God's command. Being a nabiy isnt a 9 to 5 job where the guy can go home, get out of his nabiy uniform, break out a six-pack and once a week (although watching football is ok), have poker night with the boys. He's entitled to have his preferences sure, but he's not allowed to make things forbidden outside God's forbiddings. The Nabiy was actually told off for doing this (661-2)

                                      not so, prophets are human and they can forbid and make mitakes like other humans (see 1267 where Jacob tells his sons to enter in certain mannor, yet in 1268 we are told this makes no difference to the will of God - or, see 661 were the prophet forbids what God made awful just to please his wives). When we are speaking of prophets, that is a state of being, when we are speaking of a messenger, that is a spcific function.

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                                        Wakas
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                                        AB,

                                        I recommend the following
                                        http//misconceptions-about-islam.com/dress-code-women-veil.htm

                                        It smashes the myth of the traditional women's dress code, including headcover.

                                        All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                                          Ahmad_Bilal
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                                          I recommend the following
                                          http//misconceptions-about-islam.com/dress-code-women-veil.htm

                                          It smashes the myth of the traditional women's dress code, including headcover.

                                          Hmmm... hmm Thanks for the link; it's very interesting and informative...

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