62:5 donkey carrying books...
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Peace
Who's not following the Quran?
Majority of the Moslims.
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FM The example of those who were given the Torah, but then failed to uphold it, is like the donkey that is carrying a cargo of books. Miserable indeed is the example of the people who denied the revelations of God. And God does not guide the wicked people.By not following quran, do we fall under this category?
Yes you are allready under that category '(
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Majority of the Moslims.
I agree, I was talking about this with someone the other day. You see some Muslims who wont follow any commandments from the Quran until they go to IHOP after a night of drinking and ask for turkey sausage because if they eat pork they'll go to HELL
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FM The example of those who were given the Torah, but then failed to uphold it, is like the donkey that is carrying a cargo of books. Miserable indeed is the example of the people who denied the revelations of God. And God does not guide the wicked people.By not following quran, do we fall under this category?
yes those that dont follow Quran do fall under this description, IMHO.
if you look at what the jews did they were given Torah from Moses, they already had laws and traditions, they added the hadith of Moses (oral Torah) all lumped together becomes the talmud complete with rabbanical laws, hadiths, traditions and a tinsy bit of what god actually said bogged down with heaps of what He didnt say. Apply the same to Quran hadith fiqh etc etc you get Judaism-ized Islam, the Islam of today.
scrape it all away and see the light that is Gods Words that is Quran, or do as the jews did by letting schollars 'change it with their tongues'
003.078 There is among them a section who distort the Book with their tongues (As they read) you would think it is a part of the Book, but it is no part of the Book; and they say, "That is from Allah," but it is not from Allah It is they who tell a lie against Allah, and (well) they know it!
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can you change the tittle of the topic. because the aya is not about donkey carrying books in fact the verse is about donkey carrying asfara "' which means baggages for a trip or whatever.
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@ nsws1988 and afridi220 you both should learn something from brother ayyub and sister Ayisha. Thats how you should be responding to a question when asked.
@ ayyub
you are right brother, I have noticed that kind of behaviour quite often.
Thank you for your thoughts, however I have a question What if we are quran alone and don't agree with hadthi Islam but still we don't follow what we believe in. do we still fall under that description?
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can you change the tittle of the topic. because the aya is not about donkey carrying books in fact the verse is about donkey carrying asfara "' which means baggages for a trip or whatever.
I compared different translations brother and they all says books but however if you are right then how do you make sense of this verse. thanks for pointing out!
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can you change the tittle of the topic. because the aya is not about donkey carrying books in fact the verse is about donkey carrying asfara "' which means baggages for a trip or whatever.
(5) The case of those who were charged to observe (the law of) Torah but did not carry out (its commandments in its true spirit), is like the case of a donkey that carries (a load of) volumes (of Books; he neither understands them nor gathers any advantage from them). Wretched is the case of the people who cry lies to the Message of All?h. And All?h guides no unjust people to success. - Amatul Rahman Omar
I don't speak Arabic, but from what I see in this translation it is implied that what is being carried (in the baggage) is books.
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@ nsws1988 and afridi220 you both should learn something from brother ayyub and sister Ayisha. Thats how you should be responding to a question when asked.
@ ayyub
you are right brother, I have noticed that kind of behaviour quite often.
Thank you for your thoughts, however I have a question What if we are quran alone and don't agree with hadthi Islam but still we don't follow what we believe in. do we still fall under that description?
ooh a thought provoking question i need my brian for this one ;D
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@ nsws1988 and afridi220 you both should learn something from brother ayyub and sister Ayisha. Thats how you should be responding to a question when asked.
@ ayyub
you are right brother, I have noticed that kind of behaviour quite often.
Thank you for your thoughts, however I have a question What if we are quran alone and don't agree with hadthi Islam but still we don't follow what we believe in. do we still fall under that description?
I would think you should follow what you believe in your heart to be the will of the one God, as long you are sincere in your heart (I think this would apply to those outside Islam. However if the truth is clearly revealed to you and you reject it for whatever reason, you would be held accountable.)
May Allah bless us and forever guide us closer to the truth.
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Thereformer, that's a very good point. Asfar is not books. Maybe it's travel loads.
How would you translate 'bi aydee safarah' (80/15).
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Dear where did you find this meanings "baggage for a trip"?
Yes, Asfara "" is the baggages of a trip or the arabic word is "" which means also the baggeges. where did I find it ? did you forget that I'm Arabic, mostly God SWT gave me a gift in giving the right meanings of the word especially in Quran, I can understand a lot of words in classic Arabic plus my education which was very well in Arabic. Anyways let's move to the word
the word "" is typically a kind of plural but is different from the normal plural, this plural we called it " " whic is two types, one depends on hearing and one depends on measurement, and when you use this type of plural you feel that the word has broken and it turned to something else in its meaning but in fact the word stay in a connexion with the root of the word >> the root of this word is "" which means the trip or travel and the verb is "" which means he went in a trip .
the word "" is a noun and the plural of this noun is " " and this is a normal plural not the one that I have stated before .
this word "" means also the baggage but it always comes and the plural " " and we have to say " " or "" which both of them means the same thing which is baggages .
this word "" is from clasic Arabic, the new word which is also classic but still in use and modern Arabic too is "" or "".
ah by the way >>>> why would a Donkey carry a book ? hmm
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did you forget that I'm Arabic, mostly Gog give me a gift in giving the right meanings of the word especiallt in Quran,
didnt give you much help in English though huh? (ah by the way >>>> why would a Donkey carry a book ? hmm
yes, if it was in the baggage
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Thereformer, that's a very good point. Asfar is not books. Maybe it's travel loads.
ok, thanks .
How would you translate 'bi aydee safarah' (80/15).
ah about this one " " or "bi Aydee Safarah" which means the in hands of angels . the adjectif of this word is "" or "safir" which means ambassador and the plural of this word is "" or "Safarah" which means " Ambassadors" .
and you know that the ambassador is a connexion between two countries and he travel between them, and the verse is the same meaning the ambassadors between God and the prophets are the angels and if you look back for the precedent verses of the same sura you'll find that God talks about his books which they are carried by angels to human . so the word Safarah means Angels because they carry books of God and they are the connexion between God and people .