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Asking a woman in secrecy

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    FAR
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    Oh My God !! you better ask forgiveness.

    this is for the woman that his man died and she still in the period which is 40 days and 10 days .

    Yes I know it speaks about women who's men have died, but it would even refer to general to such women who were indisposed as she considers herself to be.

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      FAR
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      the guy is with a girl without a legal contract with witness in this contract and even he said that he touched her and there she came Miss.Fatwa to say there is no wrong with that it is love and interpret the verse for all woman. is that ok for you? .

      Chat... chat...!

      Intentions are not contracts, and neither are proposals. You're using incorrect terms, stop confusing people and getting confused.

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        zulu12
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        Dear Ayisha

        You may see the remark as distainful but I don't.

        Is it not a fact that any of the PM's that do not accept rulings and advice from the Muslim Scholars because they are perceived to have deviated from the path and brainwashed the masses, make up their own in accordance to what they believe is right from their personal interpretation of the Quran?

        Tell me I'm wrong.

        Peace

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          FAR
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          well, I will not believe him if he didn't say that he didn't touch her, he is meeting her , he is touching her >> you misunderstood the term touching holding his hands as a symbol of love is touching.

          and the second thing that you have avoid is she interpreted the verse for all woman even the free one.

          In touch, not touching... and holding a woman's hand is not a sin. It only may potentially lead to sin.

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            FAR
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            Read the verse properly. It says that you can meet.
            He never said that he touched her so don't make false accusations.

            I've touched her heart, and broken it twice.

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              Ayisha
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              Dear Ayisha

              You may see the remark as distainful but I don't.

              Is it not a fact that any of the PM's that do not accept rulings and advice from the Muslim Scholars because they are perceived to have deviated from the path and brainwashed the masses, make up their own in accordance to what they believe is right from their personal interpretation of the Quran?

              Tell me I'm wrong.

              Peace

              dont you mean deviated from the path of the brainwashed masses in order to use their own brains and minds as instructed by Allah in Quran?

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                FAR
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                is this procedure given in any hadith brother?

                The procedure of forgiveness and telling one's authority to tell the girls authority is proper. It helps two people to have each other judged without their ownselves becoming clouded in love.

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                  Ayisha
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                  I've touched her heart, and broken it twice.

                  hey bro you better wear gloves, a womans heart is a delicate thing ;D

                  sorry just lightening it a bit. peace

                  can I ask your age? dont answer if you dont want to

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                    FAR
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                    I know what touching is and I will say again, READ WHAT WAS WRITTEN, there was NO touching there not even holding hands.

                    We touched on quite a bit of subjects in the 5 hour stretch chat conversation we had.

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                      Ayisha
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                      We touched on quite a bit of subjects in the 5 hour stretch chat conversation we had.

                      but not physically. thereformer here is accusing you of touching physically in an improper manner. Whether you did or not is not our concern and not one word in your post implied you did, thereformer was wrong in his assumptions and accusations.

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                        FAR
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                        as lonely as you, me and the rest of the posters here?

                        Im with nsws1988, he can ask for advice, moan, write his thoughs, whatever hes welcome.

                        Mashallah.

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                          FAR
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                          But, Ayisha. I don't come on here asking for advice on my relationship with my spouse or potential spouse or trying to verify the right way because I have decided to cut myself off from the majority of Muslims around the world therefore cannot go to a more learned person for advice.

                          You may discuss your personal issues here but not me.

                          How about setting up a blog for his thoughts, moans, gripes and what nots. Or even diarise it.

                          Anyway keep up the advice.

                          Peace

                          Quran 3103 refer to it.

                          And hold fast, all together, by the rope which Allah (stretches out for you), and be not divided among yourselves; and remember with gratitude Allah's favour on you; for ye were enemies and He joined your hearts in love, so that by His Grace, ye became brethren; and ye were on the brink of the pit of Fire, and He saved you from it. Thus doth Allah make His Signs clear to you That ye may be guided.

                          The Noble Qur'an An-Nisa 488-89 refer to it as well.

                          Then what is the matter with you that you are divided into two parties about the hypocrites? Allah has cast them back (to disbelief) because of what they have earned. Do you want to guide him whom Allah has made to go astray? And he whom Allah has made to go astray, you will never find for him any way (of guidance). They wish that you reject Faith, as they have rejected (Faith), and thus that you all become equal (like one another). So take not 'Auliya' (protectors or friends) from them, till they emigrate in the Way of Allah. But if they turn back, take of them and kill them wherever you find them, and take neither 'Auliya' nor helpers from them.

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                            FAR
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                            No im an accountant, but I do give some English lessons here to my husband and some of his friends, inshaAllah it will be more if I get the interview for the job I applied &

                            If you were a solicitor you'd be a proper English teacher. rotfl

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                              FAR
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                              hey bro you better wear gloves, a womans heart is a delicate thing ;D

                              sorry just lightening it a bit. peace

                              can I ask your age? dont answer if you dont want to

                              25, turned last week. Seems like something significant, more so than the other years until 17 and 10 and 6 and 1

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                                Wootah
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                                he already made a mistake, and she (the girls) also made the same mistake, so he must ask forgiveness and she must do it too, and then he tell his parents that he wants a girl , then they will visit the parents of the girl and they will propose marriage to her and she will accept and then thing fixed that if this marriage succeed.

                                Not a bad idea really. If you fall in love it is far better to get married and live under God and learn about love than live in sin and learn about lust.

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                                  Thereformer1
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                                  Not a bad idea really. If you fall in love it is far better to get married and live under God and learn about love than live in sin and learn about lust.

                                  thank you so much. thank God someone got my point .

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                                    nsws1988
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                                    Not a bad idea really. If you fall in love it is far better to get married and live under God and learn about love than live in sin and learn about lust.

                                    If you read his post properly then you'd know that he wants to get married.

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                                      Ayisha
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                                      If you read his post properly then you'd know that he wants to get married.

                                      ahh no one reads properly, its easier to interpret what they assume is said, same as they do with Quran. No brians thats what it is (

                                      ;D

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                                        nsws1988
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                                        ahh no one reads properly, its easier to interpret what they assume is said, same as they do with Quran. No brians thats what it is (

                                        ;D

                                        haha I hope you're not having feelings for Brian. He's mine! Hands off! >(
                                        Joke! P

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                                          ahh no one reads properly, its easier to interpret what they assume is said, same as they do with Quran. No brians thats what it is

                                          ;D

                                          it is you poeple who don't use their brains and rely on quran alone!

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