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33:37 Prophet marrying with his adopted son's wife...

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    Thereformer1
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    quranists don't know who is Zaid! The only way for them to avoid the embarrassment is to translate it! Thanks.

    why do you call them Quranists ? they don't know anything about Quran neither in their hands to obey what came in Quran, so Quranists is a good name and you shoudn't give it as a name to the ennemies of Islam.

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      Mazhar
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      he wants to avoid this question? and look for my posts before there are at least 10 questions and none of them he answered yet he is intersted in talking about "you're nor Arab" funny .

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      Quote from Mazhar on April 05, 2010, 111245 PM
      Thereat when Zaid

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      Reformer. first of all how do you know that Zaid is a name ?

      Reformer! You have naively exposed yourself. You are NOT an Arab. You lied that your mom is Arab as well as Dad is Arab.

      Only a person who does not know the basic of Arabic can put such stupid question. The subject of the verb comes after the verb and subject is always in nominative case.

      And then he said this

      Quote from Mazhar on Today at 013847 PM
      Reformer! You have naively exposed yourself. You are NOT an Arab. You lied that your mom is Arab as well as Dad is Arab.

      Reformer hahahaha, You can ask members here, they will answer you .

      and my question was right "how do you know that Zaid is a name "? it is also "" of the verb "" which means "to increase "

      He considers here "" is the subject of the verb, not a person. Is he an Arab.

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        Thereformer1
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        Only a person who does not know the basic of Arabic can put such stupid question. The subject of the verb comes after the verb and subject is always in nominative case.

        you're still avoiding the answer, how do you that Zaid is a name ? it could be anything else .

        the subject can be anything "" or "" or " ' or "" or ......etc

        the word Zaid is "" . and also Zaid is "" of the verb "" we say " " .

        And then he said this
        He considers here "" is the subject of the verb, not a person. Is he an Arab.

        it could be masdar but how do you know that it is a name ?

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          Mazhar
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          you're still avoiding the answer, how do you that Zaid is a name ? it could be anything else .

          the subject can be anything "" or "" or " ' or "" or ......etc

          the word Zaid is "" . and also Zaid is "" of the verb "" we say " " .

          it could be masdar but how do you know that it is a name ?

          Beyond a shadow of doubt it stands proved that you are absolutely NOT an Arab, you seem to be an Indian villager studying in Bukhari ridden religious school. The nominative noun being the subject of a verb relating to divorcee woman can be none except her husband's name. Only a stupid student of the highest order could think that the subject of the verb under discussion could be "" or "".

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            Ayisha
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            This man posed he is not Reformer but a different person named Preacher who is following the conversation of Mazhar and Reformer. If it is admitted later on that both are one and the same, nothing can be concluded except "Deceiver and liar simultaneously".

            This man deceives everyone not only in this but in a few other things as well

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              Ayisha
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              why do you call them Quranists ? they don't know anything about Quran neither in their hands to obey what came in Quran, so Quranists is a good name and you shoudn't give it as a name to the ennemies of Islam.

              wasnt it you who started this thread?
              http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9600242.0

              you do seem to contradict yourself a LOT

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                zulu12
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                But Mazhar. Is it not you who speaks, reads, writes and studies Urdu in Pakistan?

                Now I see why there is so much enemity between you and thereformer1. Indians and Pakistanis hate each other! ;D

                Peace

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                  Mazhar
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                  But Mazhar. Is it not you who speaks, reads, writes and studies Urdu in Pakistan?

                  Now I see why there is so much enemity between you and thereformer1. Indians and Pakistanis hate each other! ;D

                  Peace

                  No enmity. I don't hate any Indian, we do not and should not hate persons, their deceptive tactics should be abhored. Allah also says that then his example was like that dog..........So man is not being called dog but his conduc is being equated to a particular dog's habit. Whether you put weight on him or off load the weight he lolls out his tongue.

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                    zulu12
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                    So I take it that there is still a chance for you and thereformer1 to play on the same cricket team?

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                      Mazhar
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                      So I take it that there is still a chance for you and thereformer1 to play on the same cricket team?

                      Perhaps not since he has self assumed the responsibility of issuing tickets, and he leaves the chance of return since he is issuing tickets which can obviously be used for multiple journeys.

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                        Thereformer1
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                        Beyond a shadow of doubt it stands proved that you are absolutely NOT an Arab, you seem to be an Indian villager studying in Bukhari ridden religious school. The nominative noun being the subject of a verb relating to divorcee woman can be none except her husband's name. Only a stupid student of the highest order could think that the subject of the verb under discussion could be "" or "".

                        No, I'm Arabic, so stop trying assuming that it is a name by your non-specific proof .

                        prove to me how do you know that Zaid is a name ? ok I'm waiting your answer . there is something in the verse prove that Zaid is a name , but the way that you have said that Zaid is a name is by reading hadith .

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                          Ayisha
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                          No, I'm Arabic, so stop trying assuming that it is a name by your non-specific proof .

                          prove to me how do you know that Zaid is a name ? ok I'm waiting your answer . there is something in the verse prove that Zaid is a name , but the way that you have said that Zaid is a name is by reading hadith .

                          Arabic is a language spoken by Arabs

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                            Thereformer1
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                            So I take it that there is still a chance for you and thereformer1 to play on the same cricket team?

                            what's tha supposed to mean ?

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                              Thereformer1
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                              Perhaps not since he has self assumed the responsibility of issuing tickets, and he leaves the chance of return since he is issuing tickets which can obviously be used for multiple journeys.

                              I'm not Indian and of course we don't play crickets. so keep dreaming about who I am!!!!!

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                                Thereformer1
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                                Arabic is a language spoken by Arabs

                                that's what you don't know ..someone is Arab doesn't mean that he speaks arabic .

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                                  zulu12
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                                  Dear thereformer1

                                  It's a joke and a figure of speech.

                                  He said you was Indian, after which I joked about Indians and Pakistanis hating each other etc etc thus the replies on the Forum..

                                  It's a tongue 'n cheek way of saying something along the lines of 'so you have patched up your differences with each other'.

                                  Relax.

                                  Peace

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                                    Thereformer1
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                                    Dear thereformer1
                                    It's a joke and a figure of speech.
                                    He said you was Indian, after which I joked about Indians and Pakistanis hating each other etc etc thus the replies on the Forum..
                                    It's a tongue 'n cheek way of saying something along the lines of 'so you have patched up your differences with each other'.
                                    Relax.
                                    Peace

                                    ah, ok sorry .I was just looking for the meaning, don't worry I'm "Realx" lol.

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                                      Wootah
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                                      I find it hard to reconcile this verse. I guess it is possible with all Mohammad's wives that due to the time and place polygamy was a good way to protect them. I just struggle, really struggle to find a noble purpose to these marriages.

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                                        Thereformer1
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                                        I find it hard to reconcile this verse. I guess it is possible with all Mohammad's wives that due to the time and place polygamy was a good way to protect them. I just struggle, really struggle to find a noble purpose to these marriages.

                                        the purpose is abolished what was known in Jaheleya, the adopted son who divorced his woman, his dad by adoption can marry her because he is not his real son, and she is Halal for him. and also abolished adoption.

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                                          Wootah
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                                          the purpose is abolished what was known in Jaheleya, the adopted son who divorced his woman, his dad by adoption can marry her because he is not his real son, and she is Halal for him. and also abolished adoption.

                                          Or Mohammad could have said, "There are plenty of fish in the sea." You make it sound like there was a huge problem that needed to be fixed such that decided to add this verse to the revelation. I mean how big a problem was it back then that men were not able to marry their adopted son's wife after divorce?

                                          Also abolished adoption? I didn't know that. Really?

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